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Sep 24, 2025 at 9:04 PM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Don Shula lost his first two SuperBowls.

I was waiting for someone to pick up what I was leading to with my SB history references of Lombardi and Stram. Thank you!

Granted I was focused on with the same team, but that really shouldn't matter too much.
[ Edited by captveg on Sep 24, 2025 at 9:07 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:05 PM
If you believe only Star QBs can win then you should stop following this team

When we finally raise the Lombardi it will feel even greater from all these close defeats. Kyle can & will do it.

<homer hat>
Put it on
[ Edited by 90sFortyNiner on Sep 24, 2025 at 9:08 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:13 PM
Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
Brock was asked to throw a route over the middle. Mahomes did a slide and dump off.

That is play design. Reid is better.

Kyle does more with less than Reid. The Niners offense has been better than the Chiefs the past 2 years and the Chiefs have Mahomes. Have you watched the Chiefs offense the past 2 years. They have turned into a dink and dunk offense despite having one of the best QB's in the league. They are very boring to watch. The Chiefs through 3 weeks are 15th in passing yards and 17th in rushing yards. Overall they are 17th in the league in yards per game. The Chiefs haven't had a great offense for 3 years now. They have been carried by their defense.
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:13 PM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.

These kind of historical odds have no actual influence on future events, though. I remember when no team that started 0-2 won the Super Bowl - then the 1993 Cowboys did it. I remember that no 6 seed had ever won a SB - then the 2007 Giants and 2010 Packers both did it.

Did you know that in 1968 no head coach had won a SB not named Lombardi? Ewas every HC in the league doomed to never win it because of this historical statistic?

Did you know that in 1969 no HC that had lost a SB before had won a subsequent SB? Good thing the Chiefs didn't follow that logic and fire Hank Stram.

Some day a HC that is previously 0-2 in the SB is going to win the SB. Why? Because probability says it will eventually occur.

Many of the great coaches have won a SB after losing one. Losing two and then breaking through is not that statistically different when it's all said and done. Some day it will happen.

I wasn't also talking about SBs when I said breaking through.

Sure, I get your point.

You can also argue that a team with a losing record and the 7th seed will eventually win the Super Bowl, but what is the real likelihood of that happening?
[ Edited by Koldo on Sep 24, 2025 at 9:35 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:24 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Sure, I get your point.

You can also argue that a team with a losing record and the 6th seed will eventually win the Super Bowl, but what is the real likelihood of that happening?

Every season is a reset. Every postseason is a 3 or 4 game win streak to being Champs.

I like the odds of winning the SB more as a 6 (or 7) seed than the guarantee of no SB win missing the playoffs, that's for sure.

It really boils down to: do the 49ers' odds increase or decrease with Shanahan compared to [insert available HC]?

A lot of people would rather go with a first time HC because the potential is that they could be the greatest of all time and Kyle in their view is a known commodity at this point that isn't enough to accomplish it. It's the draft pick / what's behind door #2 philosophy. A nice car will always be a car, but the prize behind door #2 could be anything - maybe 100 cars!

But here's the thing: if you look at the statistic of every HC that has ever been hired and how many of them went on to win the SB... well, anyone can see the real math here
[ Edited by captveg on Sep 24, 2025 at 9:25 PM ]
Sep 25, 2025 at 4:43 AM
Originally posted by captveg:
Every season is a reset. Every postseason is a 3 or 4 game win streak to being Champs.

I like the odds of winning the SB more as a 6 (or 7) seed than the guarantee of no SB win missing the playoffs, that's for sure.

It really boils down to: do the 49ers' odds increase or decrease with Shanahan compared to [insert available HC]?

A lot of people would rather go with a first time HC because the potential is that they could be the greatest of all time and Kyle in their view is a known commodity at this point that isn't enough to accomplish it. It's the draft pick / what's behind door #2 philosophy. A nice car will always be a car, but the prize behind door #2 could be anything - maybe 100 cars!

But here's the thing: if you look at the statistic of every HC that has ever been hired and how many of them went on to win the SB... well, anyone can see the real math here

It's true 360 (whatever) days of the year, then the individual is bombarded with data week of the Super Bowl infront of a microphone.

I think players definitely respond on instinct. Endless practice and homework. But coaches can be swayed by emotion. For better or worse.

My post isn't a reflection on any individual just how I believe the process goes.
[ Edited by 90sFortyNiner on Sep 25, 2025 at 4:44 AM ]
Sep 25, 2025 at 8:24 AM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.

These kind of historical odds have no actual influence on future events, though. I remember when no team that started 0-2 won the Super Bowl - then the 1993 Cowboys did it. I remember that no 6 seed had ever won a SB - then the 2007 Giants and 2010 Packers both did it.

Did you know that in 1968 no head coach had won a SB not named Lombardi? Ewas every HC in the league doomed to never win it because of this historical statistic?

Did you know that in 1969 no HC that had lost a SB before had won a subsequent SB? Good thing the Chiefs didn't follow that logic and fire Hank Stram.

Some day a HC that is previously 0-2 in the SB is going to win the SB. Why? Because probability says it will eventually occur.

Many of the great coaches have won a SB after losing one. Losing two and then breaking through is not that statistically different when it's all said and done. Some day it will happen.

I wasn't also talking about SBs when I said breaking through.

Sure, I get your point.

You can also argue that a team with a losing record and the 7th seed will eventually win the Super Bowl, but what is the real likelihood of that happening?

You just never know in the NFL. I've been pretty bummed out about Bosa's injury cuz to me it really kills our chances at winning it all this season but it doesn't mean it can't happen.

Anything can happen in a game, not to mention just like we lost Bosa all these power house teams could lose key players on their end as well.

I think the types of wins we've had so far could help long term and I do think Kyle's game management has really improved, especially in those 2 minute drives. Unfortunately we haven't had a chance to see his playcalling if we're trying to hold a 10+ point lead in the 4th but hopefully we get to see that soon.
Sep 25, 2025 at 9:54 AM
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.

These kind of historical odds have no actual influence on future events, though. I remember when no team that started 0-2 won the Super Bowl - then the 1993 Cowboys did it. I remember that no 6 seed had ever won a SB - then the 2007 Giants and 2010 Packers both did it.

Did you know that in 1968 no head coach had won a SB not named Lombardi? Ewas every HC in the league doomed to never win it because of this historical statistic?

Did you know that in 1969 no HC that had lost a SB before had won a subsequent SB? Good thing the Chiefs didn't follow that logic and fire Hank Stram.

Some day a HC that is previously 0-2 in the SB is going to win the SB. Why? Because probability says it will eventually occur.

Many of the great coaches have won a SB after losing one. Losing two and then breaking through is not that statistically different when it's all said and done. Some day it will happen.

I wasn't also talking about SBs when I said breaking through.

Sure, I get your point.

You can also argue that a team with a losing record and the 7th seed will eventually win the Super Bowl, but what is the real likelihood of that happening?

Well, the seventh seed has only been around since the 2020 season. Before that the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers each won the Super Bowl as the number six seed.
Sep 28, 2025 at 4:19 PM
Up there for me as one of the worst losses in the Shanahan era. The recurring poor play of the OL…the poor ST play (again, don't need to be great, just don't lose the ST phase of the game).

You have to win or at least be much better in the trenches, and you have to be at least even in the ST battle.

This team has consistently shown over the years to be either very average or downright poor in both of these key areas.
Sep 28, 2025 at 4:25 PM
That little quick sweep he runs to CMC 2-3 times a game never works anymore. He insist on running it though. Maybe to set something up but it's constantly snuffed out.
Sep 28, 2025 at 4:29 PM
Another come from behind fail.
Sep 28, 2025 at 4:29 PM
…Yeah…anyone else starting to think we should look elsewhere?
Sep 28, 2025 at 5:36 PM
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The Special teams still sucks. The OL is still average at best and we have a DL that can't seem to generate any type of pressure without Bosa.

That being said, The receivers and QB let him down big time today
Sep 28, 2025 at 5:40 PM
Originally posted by 4putt9r:
That little quick sweep he runs to CMC 2-3 times a game never works anymore. He insist on running it though. Maybe to set something up but it's constantly snuffed out.

We didn't have to do that when we had 5 YPC Jordan Mason
Sep 28, 2025 at 5:44 PM
Originally posted by BYisGod:
…Yeah…anyone else starting to think we should look elsewhere?

Never fails. A loss means that we must return to doom and gloom posting.

Smoke a bowl and relax friend.
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