49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Walsh was amazing, he is the reason I fell in love with football. Greatest of all time but it's almost unfair to compare..like comparing anyone to Rice. It's like, they were the absolute best. However, I can't say I haven't been frustrated with Shanny. Some bonehead decisions over the years. Just win it all already lol

Originally posted by Montana:
Walsh was amazing, he is the reason I fell in love with football. Greatest of all time but it's almost unfair to compare..like comparing anyone to Rice. It's like, they were the absolute best. However, I can't say I haven't been frustrated with Shanny. Some bonehead decisions over the years. Just win it all already lol

I can understand the frustration but people need to have some rational thought.

Bill didn't have to worry about the salary cap - that's how you can keep Joe Montana and Steve Young on the roster.

Nail a draft pick? They're on your team until you think they're over the hill.

Walsh was a great teacher and he was able to put in the time to coach up players with the rules of those days. Shanahan doesn't get the same situation. He's limited in what he can teach his guys. Walsh also had better consistency on defense first with Studley then with Seifert. I'm pretty confident had Sahanan had Saleh or Ryans we close out that SB.

Also having McKittrick as the OL coach his whole career here is pretty helpful.

Simply put the comparisons are pointless. We all know how great Walsh was, it doesn't change the differences each HC had to deal with. We've now seen Bill Belichick without Tom Brady. Safe to say he doesn't resemble a HOF coach let alone of the best ever.

QB play is pretty important to winning it all. Unless you have a monster roster with almost no holes you're not winning a SB without a top tier QB.

But Kyle's time is running out. He's a great coach but he's got to change things around to close out those top games and I believe he either needs to try to bring in a new OL coach or make changes to improve pass protection breakdowns.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Montana:
Walsh was amazing, he is the reason I fell in love with football. Greatest of all time but it's almost unfair to compare..like comparing anyone to Rice. It's like, they were the absolute best. However, I can't say I haven't been frustrated with Shanny. Some bonehead decisions over the years. Just win it all already lol

I can understand the frustration but people need to have some rational thought.

Bill didn't have to worry about the salary cap - that's how you can keep Joe Montana and Steve Young on the roster.

Nail a draft pick? They're on your team until you think they're over the hill.

Walsh was a great teacher and he was able to put in the time to coach up players with the rules of those days. Shanahan doesn't get the same situation. He's limited in what he can teach his guys. Walsh also had better consistency on defense first with Studley then with Seifert. I'm pretty confident had Sahanan had Saleh or Ryans we close out that SB.

Also having McKittrick as the OL coach his whole career here is pretty helpful.

Simply put the comparisons are pointless. We all know how great Walsh was, it doesn't change the differences each HC had to deal with. We've now seen Bill Belichick without Tom Brady. Safe to say he doesn't resemble a HOF coach let alone of the best ever.

QB play is pretty important to winning it all. Unless you have a monster roster with almost no holes you're not winning a SB without a top tier QB.

But Kyle's time is running out. He's a great coach but he's got to change things around to close out those top games and I believe he either needs to try to bring in a new OL coach or make changes to improve pass protection breakdowns.

You can only measure accomplishments during their time. Bill Walsh selected Montana and young. Kyle seleted Trey Lance and Jimmy G. He is lucky Brock fell to him. Walsh selected McKitrick.

If you look at my previous comment, I was responding to a post saying it was better having Jed over DeBartolo. It had nothing to do with Walsh. Anyone who attempts to argue that the franchise is better now than when it was owned by Eddie Debartolo should get

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
You can only measure accomplishments during their time. Bill Walsh selected Montana and young. Kyle seleted Trey Lance and Jimmy G. He is lucky Brock fell to him. Walsh selected McKitrick.

If you look at my previous comment, I was responding to a post saying it was better having Jed over DeBartolo. It had nothing to do with Walsh. Anyone who attempts to argue that the franchise is better now than when it was owned by Eddie Debartolo should get

And Walsh wasn't lucky to have Montana or Rice fall to him? Was a McKittrick available for Kyle?

As for the Eddie vs Jed, I'm sure everyone would want Eddie over Jed. However you simply have no idea where the team and coaching would be under Eddie in today's NFL. We sure he wouldn't just be another Jerry Jones? How's that going for Jerry having to deal with the modern NFL and salary cap issues?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
You can only measure accomplishments during their time. Bill Walsh selected Montana and young. Kyle seleted Trey Lance and Jimmy G. He is lucky Brock fell to him. Walsh selected McKitrick.

If you look at my previous comment, I was responding to a post saying it was better having Jed over DeBartolo. It had nothing to do with Walsh. Anyone who attempts to argue that the franchise is better now than when it was owned by Eddie Debartolo should get

And Walsh wasn't lucky to have Montana or Rice fall to him? Was a McKittrick available for Kyle?

As for the Eddie vs Jed, I'm sure everyone would want Eddie over Jed. However you simply have no idea where the team and coaching would be under Eddie in today's NFL. We sure he wouldn't just be another Jerry Jones? How's that going for Jerry having to deal with the modern NFL and salary cap issues?

Walsh strategically moved up ahead of the cowboys to draft rice.

But my original point was that Eddie debartolo demanded to win. He was a players owner. The players wanted him to be there at their hof induction.

Jed is simply all business.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Walsh strategically moved up ahead of the cowboys to draft rice.

But my original point was that Eddie debartolo demanded to win. He was a players owner. The players wanted him to be there at their hof induction.

Jed is simply all business.

Niner players graded Jed with an A- in the 2024 NFLPA survey

Originally posted by genus49:
And Walsh wasn't lucky to have Montana or Rice fall to him? Was a McKittrick available for Kyle?

As for the Eddie vs Jed, I'm sure everyone would want Eddie over Jed. However you simply have no idea where the team and coaching would be under Eddie in today's NFL. We sure he wouldn't just be another Jerry Jones? How's that going for Jerry having to deal with the modern NFL and salary cap issues?

I don't think the cap is the issue.

I was a little young during the 80's Niners years… just a kid at the time… but I think the argument could be made Jerry Jones' ownership parallels the Yorks' tenure more than DeBartolo's.

Originally posted by genus49:
This is what some of you want to fire simply because you're stuck in the 80s or simply can't have nuanced thoughts on the subject.

Who are the top play callers in the NFL? I asked their nemesis around the league (defensive coordinators and assistants) to rank them and talk about what makes them so difficult to play.https://t.co/kD1bxDMqdl

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) September 2, 2025

For anyone who doesn't have the Athletic...Shanahan is #1 on this list.

Was coming here to post this. And LOL at the Washington Commanders 5 of the top 6 were ex Commie assistant coaches

Originally posted by Montana:
Walsh was amazing, he is the reason I fell in love with football. Greatest of all time but it's almost unfair to compare..like comparing anyone to Rice. It's like, they were the absolute best. However, I can't say I haven't been frustrated with Shanny. Some bonehead decisions over the years. Just win it all already lol

Yeah right. I'm sure him starting you over Steve Deberg didn't make you biased.

Comparing Walsh to Shanny just shows a lack of understanding of the old school NFL.

If you know, you know…. There is no reason to drag young fans for it.

the game is monumentally different today…. My favorite example of that is the Joe Montana interview talking about an 80 hour film study with Walsh (presumably over a 3 day weekend)….

lol… come on man…. With the Current CBA you get 2 hours of meetings and 2 hours of film study per day, but it can't exceed 14 hours a week.

on top of that, you had the Pete Rozell rule…. Basically there was zero practical free agency. In theory a player who was out of contract could sign anywhere he wanted…. But…. The other team got to set the draft capital compensation by negotiating with the league office. No team was really willing to risk signing a random guy and getting hit with 3 3rds or multiple day one picks….

basically if Shanny was in that era the 49ers don't loose any of that Super Bowl roster and they keep adding talent

so while you probably have to replace Dee Ford… you keep the rest of that line and LBer Core intact and just keep stacking talent….

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Comparing Walsh to Shanny just shows a lack of understanding of the old school NFL.

If you know, you know…. There is no reason to drag young fans for it.

the game is monumentally different today…. My favorite example of that is the Joe Montana interview talking about an 80 hour film study with Walsh (presumably over a 3 day weekend)….

lol… come on man…. With the Current CBA you get 2 hours of meetings and 2 hours of film study per day, but it can't exceed 14 hours a week.

on top of that, you had the Pete Rozell rule…. Basically there was zero practical free agency. In theory a player who was out of contract could sign anywhere he wanted…. But…. The other team got to set the draft capital compensation by negotiating with the league office. No team was really willing to risk signing a random guy and getting hit with 3 3rds or multiple day one picks….

basically if Shanny was in that era the 49ers don't loose any of that Super Bowl roster and they keep adding talent

so while you probably have to replace Dee Ford… you keep the rest of that line and LBer Core intact and just keep stacking talent….

Exactly. It also means Buckner never leaves. Think he helps give us just a little extra in 21-23?

Think of all the OL turnover we've had. Not an issue with the old days. Still would have Warner, Greenlaw and Azeez as our LBs.

Every player who is coached by Shanahan talks about how smart he is and how great of a teacher he is…imagine if he got the time the old timers got with these players!?

Some are just too busy hating to think about the differences and realize the difference.

A coach that is good enough to get to the Super Bowl with 3 different QBs (including his time as an OC) is most likely a coach that is good enough to win the Super Bowl imo. It just hasn't happened yet.

I hope he's the HC here for a long time to come.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by genus49:
This is what some of you want to fire simply because you're stuck in the 80s or simply can't have nuanced thoughts on the subject.

Who are the top play callers in the NFL? I asked their nemesis around the league (defensive coordinators and assistants) to rank them and talk about what makes them so difficult to play.https://t.co/kD1bxDMqdl

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) September 2, 2025

For anyone who doesn't have the Athletic...Shanahan is #1 on this list.

Was coming here to post this. And LOL at the Washington Commanders 5 of the top 6 were ex Commie assistant coaches

The usual Kyle bashers don't even want to acknowledge this. You fire him and you're opening up a ton of question marks with no guarantee of SB wins.

We just need Brock to be Kyle's Montana and the defense to get it together under Saleh and get some damn luck health wise. That happens and Shanahan will get the SB victory.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
A coach that is good enough to get to the Super Bowl with 3 different QBs (including his time as an OC) is most likely a coach that is good enough to win the Super Bowl imo. It just hasn't happened yet.

I hope he's the HC here for a long time to come.

Pretty much.

He's been a great coach and IMO he's the most valuable football piece this organization has… easily. He's not flawless (none of them are).

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by genus49:
This is what some of you want to fire simply because you're stuck in the 80s or simply can't have nuanced thoughts on the subject.

Who are the top play callers in the NFL? I asked their nemesis around the league (defensive coordinators and assistants) to rank them and talk about what makes them so difficult to play.https://t.co/kD1bxDMqdl

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) September 2, 2025

For anyone who doesn't have the Athletic...Shanahan is #1 on this list.

Was coming here to post this. And LOL at the Washington Commanders 5 of the top 6 were ex Commie assistant coaches

The usual Kyle bashers don't even want to acknowledge this. You fire him and you're opening up a ton of question marks with no guarantee of SB wins.

We just need Brock to be Kyle's Montana and the defense to get it together under Saleh and get some damn luck health wise. That happens and Shanahan will get the SB victory.

Yeah it's clear as day. Who's opinion should one believe posters on a fan website or people who are paid millions of dollars to go head to head vs Kyle.