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Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Thank goodness Jed York can see the long view whereas many among the fans and media are exceedingly short-sighted.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Andy Reid was a "failure" for about 20 years as hc (until he stumbled into a hof QB....)
I don't think kyles HC story is done yet. I am confident he will win one, I just hope it's with us
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Thank goodness Jed York can see the long view whereas many among the fans and media are exceedingly short-sighted.
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Steve Young didn't lose big games?
Has shanny won a Super Bowl. Nope. Watch how Eddie debartolo opens that episode and what he says. That's what the Niners use to stand for and we just don't anymore. Shanny wouldn't have lasted 3 years here under an ownership who cared about winning. The dude is a loser. I remember what falcons fans were saying g when we hired him and I knew he was the wrong guy then. UNFORTUNATLEY, I'm right. As long as he's here we won't win number 6.
you specifically brought up Steve Young. you're just gonna ignore Young's losses in his opportunities to even play in a SB? '92, '93, '95, '96, '97, '98. your logic is stupid.
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Andy Reid was a "failure" for about 20 years as hc (until he stumbled into a hof QB....)
I don't think kyles HC story is done yet. I am confident he will win one, I just hope it's with us
Cool, Kyle will get to win multiple super bowls for another organization after using his time in SF as a learning experience, while we still hold on to our 5 championships from a previous ownership. Wonderful
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Steve Young didn't lose big games?
Has shanny won a Super Bowl. Nope. Watch how Eddie debartolo opens that episode and what he says. That's what the Niners use to stand for and we just don't anymore. Shanny wouldn't have lasted 3 years here under an ownership who cared about winning. The dude is a loser. I remember what falcons fans were saying g when we hired him and I knew he was the wrong guy then. UNFORTUNATLEY, I'm right. As long as he's here we won't win number 6.
you specifically brought up Steve Young. you're just gonna ignore Young's losses in his opportunities to even play in a SB? '92, '93, '95, '96, '97, '98. your logic is stupid.
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Bill Walsh didn't win a SB until he was 50. Shanahan has time to match that accomplishment. And he would've already done it if he wasn't facing Patrick Mahomes and two likely HOF level coaches in the two SBs he managed to get to.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Andy Reid was a "failure" for about 20 years as hc (until he stumbled into a hof QB....)
I don't think kyles HC story is done yet. I am confident he will win one, I just hope it's with us
Cool, Kyle will get to win multiple super bowls for another organization after using his time in SF as a learning experience, while we still hold on to our 5 championships from a previous ownership. Wonderful
Cool so what's your great idea? Fire him now so he can have that learning experience and win a SB elsewhere while we hire someone who may not be close to his level?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Thank goodness Jed York can see the long view whereas many among the fans and media are exceedingly short-sighted.
Clearly things were better when Eddie stressed out the best coach ever so much he decided to leave after 10 seasons,
Who are the top play callers in the NFL? I asked their nemesis around the league (defensive coordinators and assistants) to rank them and talk about what makes them so difficult to play.https://t.co/kD1bxDMqdl
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Thank goodness Jed York can see the long view whereas many among the fans and media are exceedingly short-sighted.
Clearly things were better when Eddie stressed out the best coach ever so much he decided to leave after 10 seasons,
Yeah! 5-0 is clearly worse than 0-3.
Todays niner fans
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Steve Young didn't lose big games?
Has shanny won a Super Bowl. Nope. Watch how Eddie debartolo opens that episode and what he says. That's what the Niners use to stand for and we just don't anymore. Shanny wouldn't have lasted 3 years here under an ownership who cared about winning. The dude is a loser. I remember what falcons fans were saying g when we hired him and I knew he was the wrong guy then. UNFORTUNATLEY, I'm right. As long as he's here we won't win number 6.
you specifically brought up Steve Young. you're just gonna ignore Young's losses in his opportunities to even play in a SB? '92, '93, '95, '96, '97, '98. your logic is stupid.
Everyone gets a pass for their shortcomings as long as they win at least 1 championship, where's Kyle's at?
Bill Walsh didn't win a SB until he was 50. Shanahan has time to match that accomplishment. And he would've already done it if he wasn't facing Patrick Mahomes and two likely HOF level coaches in the two SBs he managed to get to.
Bill Walsh was in his 3rd year as an nfl head coach when he won. Kyle Shanahan is starting his eighth year and still nothing, despite arguably having more talent than Walsh did in the first half of his tenure, and considering that this team is much weaker than a lot of his other teams, that drought will only continue.
Originally posted by genus49:
Walsh only won 3 and could've won more if Eddie didn't push him out...that's the point.
Once again a reminder Bill Walsh didn't have to deal with a LOT of the stuff that Shanahan has to deal with. I can guarantee you that if the 49ers didn't have to deal with the salary cap and Kyle Shanahan could have way more time to coach up his players during the offseason we would have a SB win or several with him as HC.
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by genus49:
Walsh only won 3 and could've won more if Eddie didn't push him out...that's the point.
Once again a reminder Bill Walsh didn't have to deal with a LOT of the stuff that Shanahan has to deal with. I can guarantee you that if the 49ers didn't have to deal with the salary cap and Kyle Shanahan could have way more time to coach up his players during the offseason we would have a SB win or several with him as HC.
He had his best chance to win it 2 years ago when he had the best overall team in the league and didn't know the overtime rules. He relied on the defense to win the game. No excuses for Kyle.