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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
When it's all said and done, Shanahan will be remembered for the Trey Lance trade and forgetting the OT rules in the Super Bowl more than his "success" with the 49ers

don't forget to add

.. the TB12 mistake
.... the 0-2 Super Bowl Record w/the better teams both time and ahead by 10 points at least
..... the Falcon Fiasco in the Super Bowl
....... the I'm NOT all in on Grappy but I would rather lose w/him so he gets all the blame y than win with Brady and I don't get all the credit

Stop making up nonsense.

As for being better Chiefs were favored in 2019.
Last SB go down the list unit by unit and tell me how much better we were.

You don't understand how this sport works and you show it time and time again with your posts.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
When it's all said and done, Shanahan will be remembered for the Trey Lance trade and forgetting the OT rules in the Super Bowl more than his "success" with the 49ers

don't forget to add

.. the TB12 mistake
.... the 0-2 Super Bowl Record w/the better teams both time and ahead by 10 points at least
..... the Falcon Fiasco in the Super Bowl
....... the I'm NOT all in on Grappy but I would rather lose w/him so he gets all the blame y than win with Brady and I don't get all the credit

Stop making up nonsense.

As for being better Chiefs were favored in 2019.
Last SB go down the list unit by unit and tell me how much better we were.

You don't understand how this sport works and you show it time and time again with your posts.

The chiefs were only favored because of Kelce and Mahomes… the niners could have done what the eagles did to them this year but then Shanahan imploded in the second half.. kept them in and the defense couldn't get off the field so the offense failing
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
When it's all said and done, Shanahan will be remembered for the Trey Lance trade and forgetting the OT rules in the Super Bowl more than his "success" with the 49ers

don't forget to add

.. the TB12 mistake
.... the 0-2 Super Bowl Record w/the better teams both time and ahead by 10 points at least
..... the Falcon Fiasco in the Super Bowl
....... the I'm NOT all in on Grappy but I would rather lose w/him so he gets all the blame y than win with Brady and I don't get all the credit

Stop making up nonsense.

As for being better Chiefs were favored in 2019.
Last SB go down the list unit by unit and tell me how much better we were.

You don't understand how this sport works and you show it time and time again with your posts.

The chiefs were only favored because of Kelce and Mahomes… the niners could have done what the eagles did to them this year but then Shanahan imploded in the second half.. kept them in and the defense couldn't get off the field so the offense failing

Oh so two of the greatest ever at their positions? I don't care why they were favored. That SB was setup for us to lose from the jump. When you have a high powered offense with speed all over(love how you ignored Tyreek Hill, Watkins, Hardman, Robinson at WR) and the other team has a great pass rush but slower secondary and you get the refs ignoring offensive holding all game long.

And Shanahan didn't implode. Garoppolo did. There were a ton of plays there to be made and Jimmy missed them, some were just great plays by Chris Jones. Now Kyle probably should've stuck with the run more even with the looks KC was giving us but there is no guarantee we win that game even if we run it.

Either way saying our team was clearly better when we had Jimmy G at QB is laughable.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
funny how the cohnheads refuse to believe we were injured and we just suck
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
funny how the cohnheads refuse to believe we were injured and we just suck

We were injured but you can't argue part of it we brought on ourselves. Cmc getting injured was entirely predictable given his high usage rate and history.

Then we constantly fed players who suck...IE deebo.

You can't tell me we couldn't have game planned and schemed every game better. I mean this team can't even run a screen without some illegal motion or holding penalty negating it every time.

Screens negate bad pass protection and keep the defense honest.

We also were super conservative on going for it in no mans land on 4th down. When you suck you have to take more risks not less.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
funny how the cohnheads refuse to believe we were injured and we just suck

We were injured but you can't argue part of it we brought on ourselves. Cmc getting injured was entirely predictable given his high usage rate and history.

Then we constantly fed players who suck...IE deebo.

You can't tell me we couldn't have game planned and schemed every game better. I mean this team can't even run a screen without some illegal motion or holding penalty negating it every time.

Screens negate bad pass protection and keep the defense honest.

We also were super conservative on going for it in no mans land on 4th down. When you suck you have to take more risks not less.
I will give you the screen game and agree it should be used more..

but you're saying a perfect example of injury denial ^^ and acting like we have been 6-11 since 2017

next man up can only last so long and it showed with being the most injured
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
funny how the cohnheads refuse to believe we were injured and we just suck

We were injured but you can't argue part of it we brought on ourselves. Cmc getting injured was entirely predictable given his high usage rate and history.

Then we constantly fed players who suck...IE deebo.

You can't tell me we couldn't have game planned and schemed every game better. I mean this team can't even run a screen without some illegal motion or holding penalty negating it every time.

Screens negate bad pass protection and keep the defense honest.

We also were super conservative on going for it in no mans land on 4th down. When you suck you have to take more risks not less.

Per accounts his injury came from overtraining, not overwork the year prior.

Also CMC had 339 touches in 23. Barkley had 378 this season. Should we assume he's coming back with bilateral achilles issue?

It's one thing to say injuries weren't our only problem but to pretend they brought the injuries on themselves is bonkers.
Originally posted by genus49:
Per accounts his injury came from overtraining, not overwork the year prior.

Also CMC had 339 touches in 23. Barkley had 378 this season. Should we assume he's coming back with bilateral achilles issue?

It's one thing to say injuries weren't our only problem but to pretend they brought the injuries on themselves is bonkers.

We don't have to assume anything.

Would you be surprised though if he gets injured this season?

There is plenty of evidence of the FO drafting players with injury history or bringing in FAs with injury issues.

Would you deny that dee fords back being an issue just came out of nowhere?

It's like being surprised that Jimmy or Trey both got injured on plays trying to get yards and getting hit.

There are definitive plays and play styles that will lead to increased injuries. Hanging the ball high over the middle tends to get receivers killed. Having a RB get 25 touches a game tends to lead to injury.

It's not all random. There is a reason why we are most injured consistently...
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by genus49:
Per accounts his injury came from overtraining, not overwork the year prior.

Also CMC had 339 touches in 23. Barkley had 378 this season. Should we assume he's coming back with bilateral achilles issue?

It's one thing to say injuries weren't our only problem but to pretend they brought the injuries on themselves is bonkers.

We don't have to assume anything.

Would you be surprised though if he gets injured this season?

There is plenty of evidence of the FO drafting players with injury history or bringing in FAs with injury issues.

Would you deny that dee fords back being an issue just came out of nowhere?

It's like being surprised that Jimmy or Trey both got injured on plays trying to get yards and getting hit.

There are definitive plays and play styles that will lead to increased injuries. Hanging the ball high over the middle tends to get receivers killed. Having a RB get 25 touches a game tends to lead to injury.

It's not all random. There is a reason why we are most injured consistently...

The previous year we were one of the healthiest teams. Football happens, B.

And this whole idea that Kyle overuses his RBs is so dumb, do you watch any other teams besides the Niners? Basically every team that has an elite RB gets "overused". Last season there was 6 RBs with more than 300 carriers...CMCs career high with us was 270.
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Originally posted by Jcool:

I normally don't believe anything Mike Silver says but since this confirms my bias I will believe this report.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by genus49:
Per accounts his injury came from overtraining, not overwork the year prior.

Also CMC had 339 touches in 23. Barkley had 378 this season. Should we assume he's coming back with bilateral achilles issue?

It's one thing to say injuries weren't our only problem but to pretend they brought the injuries on themselves is bonkers.

We don't have to assume anything.

Would you be surprised though if he gets injured this season?

There is plenty of evidence of the FO drafting players with injury history or bringing in FAs with injury issues.

Would you deny that dee fords back being an issue just came out of nowhere?

It's like being surprised that Jimmy or Trey both got injured on plays trying to get yards and getting hit.

There are definitive plays and play styles that will lead to increased injuries. Hanging the ball high over the middle tends to get receivers killed. Having a RB get 25 touches a game tends to lead to injury.

It's not all random. There is a reason why we are most injured consistently...

The previous year we were one of the healthiest teams. Football happens, B.

And this whole idea that Kyle overuses his RBs is so dumb, do you watch any other teams besides the Niners? Basically every team that has an elite RB gets "overused". Last season there was 6 RBs with more than 300 carriers...CMCs career high with us was 270.

What's the point of having a great RB if you aren't going to use him. Before the league became passing dominant there were guys that carried the ball 30-35 times a game. O J had 5 consecutive seasons with over 250 carries and led the league in carries 3 times in that span. CMC average 17 carries per game in 2023 so he wasn't overused. Joe Mixon average 17.5 carries per game. Henry averaged over 19 per game. Barkley averaged 21.6.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by genus49:
Per accounts his injury came from overtraining, not overwork the year prior.

Also CMC had 339 touches in 23. Barkley had 378 this season. Should we assume he's coming back with bilateral achilles issue?

It's one thing to say injuries weren't our only problem but to pretend they brought the injuries on themselves is bonkers.

We don't have to assume anything.

Would you be surprised though if he gets injured this season?

There is plenty of evidence of the FO drafting players with injury history or bringing in FAs with injury issues.

Would you deny that dee fords back being an issue just came out of nowhere?

It's like being surprised that Jimmy or Trey both got injured on plays trying to get yards and getting hit.

There are definitive plays and play styles that will lead to increased injuries. Hanging the ball high over the middle tends to get receivers killed. Having a RB get 25 touches a game tends to lead to injury.

It's not all random. There is a reason why we are most injured consistently...

The previous year we were one of the healthiest teams. Football happens, B.

And this whole idea that Kyle overuses his RBs is so dumb, do you watch any other teams besides the Niners? Basically every team that has an elite RB gets "overused". Last season there was 6 RBs with more than 300 carriers...CMCs career high with us was 270.

What's the point of having a great RB if you aren't going to use him. Before the league became passing dominant there were guys that carried the ball 30-35 times a game. O J had 5 consecutive seasons with over 250 carries and led the league in carries 3 times in that span. CMC average 17 carries per game in 2023 so he wasn't overused. Joe Mixon average 17.5 carries per game. Henry averaged over 19 per game. Barkley averaged 21.6.

Some of these guys b***h for the sake of b***hing. Some of them just troll for attention. And some of them just don't know better and they sound like those callers on sports talk radio.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Jcool:

I normally don't believe anything Mike Silver says but since this confirms my bias I will believe this report.

Ha
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