I thought Kyle had a bad game honestly, he was too aggressive in the pass game which put Purdy and co. in a bad spot that led to big mistakes.
That said, Kyle is the best coach on the league IMO and I have full confidence he will learn from his miscues this past game.
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Dec 27, 2023 at 7:40 PM
- Young2Owens
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Dec 27, 2023 at 7:47 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Shanahan was awful against the Ravens. We all saw that. We all agree on that.
What are we arguing here?
Yes he was. Played right into the strength of their defense. Just dumb. Pass, pass, pass should have been run, run, run.
Dec 27, 2023 at 7:55 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
It's a good point (SD's), being optimistic is great however when there is no way to see SD's point is just as bad as you stating your point. Trying to always critical think, Kyle's ego gets swelled and unlike Walsh or other great ones he thinks he's arrived. Until he wins big games he will be more of a fad coach who had a great scheme. Just needs to get over himself and adjust to what the defense gives him. A loss should be a reflection and blow out losses should be a wake up moment to see where he's falling short. You can't just say they will play better next time. The Ravens kicked the crap out of them and now are talking s<%t. The old time 90s Niners would come back and shut them up. I don't see that fire in Kyle. I do however think Kyle is one of the best coaches out there but he needs to get better.
They don't play them again, unless it's in the SB… so I really don't get it.
The long gone 90's Niners lost plenty of ugly games as well.
They did but the Cowboys were taking s$#t and the Niners came back to kick the crap out of them 2 games that season.
You heard Baltimore saying Purdy is a spot thrower so they can figure out the spot. If Kyle does not change up his reads and hot routes *who cares* when we meet them or any team that has a good defense, I do. They need to spread out the progressions but with the Niners line probably can't, not enough time.
Oh lord
Unfortunately the Lord does not care about football in my case the niners keep losing big games despite my prayers 🙏.
Well you and NC have clearly called out that they have no shot, might as well just save yourself the aggravation and stop watching.
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
Dec 27, 2023 at 7:55 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Shanahan was awful against the Ravens. We all saw that. We all agree on that.
What are we arguing here?
Yes he was. Played right into the strength of their defense. Just dumb. Pass, pass, pass should have been run, run, run.
I agree with that as well.
Dec 27, 2023 at 7:56 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Shanahan was awful against the Ravens. We all saw that. We all agree on that.
What are we arguing here?
Yes he was. Played right into the strength of their defense. Just dumb. Pass, pass, pass should have been run, run, run.
I agree with that as well.
For sure.
Dec 27, 2023 at 7:57 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
Yac has showed the numbers. Just not true.
Dec 27, 2023 at 7:59 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
It's a good point (SD's), being optimistic is great however when there is no way to see SD's point is just as bad as you stating your point. Trying to always critical think, Kyle's ego gets swelled and unlike Walsh or other great ones he thinks he's arrived. Until he wins big games he will be more of a fad coach who had a great scheme. Just needs to get over himself and adjust to what the defense gives him. A loss should be a reflection and blow out losses should be a wake up moment to see where he's falling short. You can't just say they will play better next time. The Ravens kicked the crap out of them and now are talking s<%t. The old time 90s Niners would come back and shut them up. I don't see that fire in Kyle. I do however think Kyle is one of the best coaches out there but he needs to get better.
They don't play them again, unless it's in the SB… so I really don't get it.
The long gone 90's Niners lost plenty of ugly games as well.
They did but the Cowboys were taking s$#t and the Niners came back to kick the crap out of them 2 games that season.
You heard Baltimore saying Purdy is a spot thrower so they can figure out the spot. If Kyle does not change up his reads and hot routes *who cares* when we meet them or any team that has a good defense, I do. They need to spread out the progressions but with the Niners line probably can't, not enough time.
Oh lord
Unfortunately the Lord does not care about football in my case the niners keep losing big games despite my prayers 🙏.
Well you and NC have clearly called out that they have no shot, might as well just save yourself the aggravation and stop watching.
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
You're projecting. no one is denying anything. Show me what I denied? You on the other hand, like NC, are on record saying the team has no chance to win it all strictly because of the OL….which is funny because NC has also recently pivoted it's not all because of OL, but rather everything and that he never actually said it's all OL…., until it's time to blame the OL again. Can't keep all the b******t straight and what he's actually right about. Birds of a feather.
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Dec 27, 2023 at 8:05 PM ]
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:00 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Guys your missing the point. The Ravens were taking s**t all week and then came in and kicked out asses. When a team does that it's embarrassing. We did that to the Eagles and backed it up.
In the 90s we got our asses handed to us a lot was not saying we didn't.
The other point "Exactly one of Brock's 4 interceptions would fall into the idea that they were sitting on a spot" The others were the fact the Line was letting guys into the backfield to slap them down, basically SDs point.
The Ravens were saying they thought they were the best team and were being disrespected as underdogs. This isn't unique, surprising, or meaningful at all. Just as the 49ers words were meaningless following the Eagles championship game loss.
All of these teams are confident. All believe they can beat anybody if they play their best game. The margins in the modern NFL are razor thin.
They also said they are weak and we will be more physical and their gadget plays well be beaten by physicality.
They said so much crap go look online.
What your saying is not disrespectful and your right every team thinks their the best and will win every game.
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:04 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Guys your missing the point. The Ravens were taking s**t all week and then came in and kicked out asses. When a team does that it's embarrassing. We did that to the Eagles and backed it up.
In the 90s we got our asses handed to us a lot was not saying we didn't.
The other point "Exactly one of Brock's 4 interceptions would fall into the idea that they were sitting on a spot" The others were the fact the Line was letting guys into the backfield to slap them down, basically SDs point.
Well then I don't understand your point. Sometimes you get your ass kicked, sucks but it happens, everyone gets beat eventually. The Patriots had an undefeated season and went to the SB and got beat by the 10-6 Giants.
I'm less worried about the Ravens and more worried about the team staying healthy for the remainder of the season. Crazy things happen in the playoffs and all this belly-aching about what the Ravens will do to the 49ers if they see them in the SB ignores that either team could very easily not make it there. The Ravens are just the "NOBODY IS GOING TO BEAT THEM, THEY ARE UNSTOPPABLE" flavor of the week. If they lose to the Dolphins this week then it'll be Miami's turn on the carousel again.
I also an more worried about staying healthy...I hope if we do meet the Ravens in the superbowl we totally kick their a$$. They are still taking smack look online. Even Redick is yapping his mouth.
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:08 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
It's a good point (SD's), being optimistic is great however when there is no way to see SD's point is just as bad as you stating your point. Trying to always critical think, Kyle's ego gets swelled and unlike Walsh or other great ones he thinks he's arrived. Until he wins big games he will be more of a fad coach who had a great scheme. Just needs to get over himself and adjust to what the defense gives him. A loss should be a reflection and blow out losses should be a wake up moment to see where he's falling short. You can't just say they will play better next time. The Ravens kicked the crap out of them and now are talking s<%t. The old time 90s Niners would come back and shut them up. I don't see that fire in Kyle. I do however think Kyle is one of the best coaches out there but he needs to get better.
They don't play them again, unless it's in the SB… so I really don't get it.
The long gone 90's Niners lost plenty of ugly games as well.
They did but the Cowboys were taking s$#t and the Niners came back to kick the crap out of them 2 games that season.
You heard Baltimore saying Purdy is a spot thrower so they can figure out the spot. If Kyle does not change up his reads and hot routes *who cares* when we meet them or any team that has a good defense, I do. They need to spread out the progressions but with the Niners line probably can't, not enough time.
Oh lord
Unfortunately the Lord does not care about football in my case the niners keep losing big games despite my prayers 🙏.
Well you and NC have clearly called out that they have no shot, might as well just save yourself the aggravation and stop watching.
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
You're projecting. no one is denying anything. Show me what I denied? You on the other hand, like NC, are on record saying the team has no chance to win it all strictly because of the OL….which is funny because NC has also recently pivoted it's not all because of OL, but rather everything and that he never actually said it's all OL…., until it's time to blame the OL again. Can't keep all the b******t straight and what he's actually right about. Birds of a feather.
Projecting? OK I'm done....Talk with you after the season about the OLine topic.
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:10 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
Yac has showed the numbers. Just not true.
Watch the game...He was harrassed when it matters
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:11 PM
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Projecting? OK I'm done....Talk with you after the season about the OLine topic.
The problem is the likelihood that a loss will be assigned to OL failure no matter what actually happened in the game.
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:12 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Watch the game...He was harrassed when it matters
Not on the first pick. Not on the 2nd. He successfully got out of the pocket on the 3rd….
We gained over 400 yards of offense on that elite defense. That typically doesn't happen when your OL is terrible.
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:12 PM
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:not all of us agree on that. We lost the game because our QB had 4 turnovers, his fault or not, and we had over 100 yards in penalties. Kyle didn't suit up and throw 4 turnovers. Its actually really simple: if the turnover margin is 0:5 and you have over 100 penalty yards, you lose probably 100% of the time. the game got away from them and whatever Kyle's gameplan was went down the s**tter.
Shanahan was awful against the Ravens. We all saw that. We all agree on that.
What are we arguing here?
Dec 27, 2023 at 8:13 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
It's a good point (SD's), being optimistic is great however when there is no way to see SD's point is just as bad as you stating your point. Trying to always critical think, Kyle's ego gets swelled and unlike Walsh or other great ones he thinks he's arrived. Until he wins big games he will be more of a fad coach who had a great scheme. Just needs to get over himself and adjust to what the defense gives him. A loss should be a reflection and blow out losses should be a wake up moment to see where he's falling short. You can't just say they will play better next time. The Ravens kicked the crap out of them and now are talking s<%t. The old time 90s Niners would come back and shut them up. I don't see that fire in Kyle. I do however think Kyle is one of the best coaches out there but he needs to get better.
They don't play them again, unless it's in the SB… so I really don't get it.
The long gone 90's Niners lost plenty of ugly games as well.
They did but the Cowboys were taking s$#t and the Niners came back to kick the crap out of them 2 games that season.
You heard Baltimore saying Purdy is a spot thrower so they can figure out the spot. If Kyle does not change up his reads and hot routes *who cares* when we meet them or any team that has a good defense, I do. They need to spread out the progressions but with the Niners line probably can't, not enough time.
Oh lord
Unfortunately the Lord does not care about football in my case the niners keep losing big games despite my prayers 🙏.
Well you and NC have clearly called out that they have no shot, might as well just save yourself the aggravation and stop watching.
Denial about a weak oline is called being a homer. "The Niners don't need any help their just great and will win it all without any changes yay team....."
When they lose because they can't keep Brock up right then we can re visit.
If they win it all, I'll come back and say I was wrong and I suck, until then I'll drop this topic.
I know you won't come back because you'll have some other excuse. Right now NC is right and you guys just sit around and bash people with a different take.
You're projecting. no one is denying anything. Show me what I denied? You on the other hand, like NC, are on record saying the team has no chance to win it all strictly because of the OL….which is funny because NC has also recently pivoted it's not all because of OL, but rather everything and that he never actually said it's all OL…., until it's time to blame the OL again. Can't keep all the b******t straight and what he's actually right about. Birds of a feather.
Projecting? OK I'm done....Talk with you after the season about the OLine topic.
Don't weasel out of this , I asked you what I denied, since you told me I was denying things and being a homer. Enlighten me