49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread | Page 3990

Dec 8, 2023 at 2:53 PM

#59836

9ers4eva
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
and to think there are people (a few here) that hate Kyle. lol

80% of that is Brock

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Dec 8, 2023 at 3:09 PM

#59837

qnnhan7
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I thought Kyle emphasized more movement from Ryan. Under center playaction rollout. Shotgun rollout. More run plays to help Ryan.. Ryan wasn't comfortable doing all that. But made him MVP under Kyle. Ryan downhill and out since.

Dec 8, 2023 at 3:11 PM

#59838

SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I thought Kyle emphasized more movement from Ryan. Under center playaction rollout. Shotgun rollout. More run plays to help Ryan.. Ryan wasn't comfortable doing all that. But made him MVP under Kyle. Ryan downhill and out since.

Ryan had damn near as good a season in '18 fyi.

Dec 8, 2023 at 8:16 PM

#59839

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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
Kind of curious, for anyone that has seen Shanahan's offenses with other teams, or remembers what it was like in 2017, 2018...

I was just thinking about how Shanahan caters scheme to personnel. Under the current 49ers, he just has a stable of pass-catchers that can just run after the catch... versatile chess pieces in Kittle and Juice. So not a surprise that we have heavy pre-snap motion, and plays designed to get guys open in space.

What was it like with Atlanta and other stops? In 2017, 2018 when he was still gathering players?
As I understand it, Atlanta also ran a zone running scheme and thrived off play action? But they're different in that Matt Ryan is a more classic dropback passer that can make all the throws superlatively? And they had a Julio Jones.

atlanta was easy, just throw it up to julio.

He had Roddy white as well...

Dec 8, 2023 at 9:08 PM

#59840

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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
Kind of curious, for anyone that has seen Shanahan's offenses with other teams, or remembers what it was like in 2017, 2018...

I was just thinking about how Shanahan caters scheme to personnel. Under the current 49ers, he just has a stable of pass-catchers that can just run after the catch... versatile chess pieces in Kittle and Juice. So not a surprise that we have heavy pre-snap motion, and plays designed to get guys open in space.

What was it like with Atlanta and other stops? In 2017, 2018 when he was still gathering players?
As I understand it, Atlanta also ran a zone running scheme and thrived off play action? But they're different in that Matt Ryan is a more classic dropback passer that can make all the throws superlatively? And they had a Julio Jones.

atlanta was easy, just throw it up to julio.

He had Roddy white as well...

They had Devonta Freeman and Tevan Coleman also. A lot of talented people playing well.

Dec 9, 2023 at 7:18 AM

#59841

ritz126
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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
kyle went god mode this year

hes good every year

finally has a QB that sees the field how he sees it
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edit: since matt ryan

[ Edited by ritz126 on Dec 9, 2023 at 7:19 AM ]

Dec 9, 2023 at 9:56 AM

#59842

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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Kind of curious, for anyone that has seen Shanahan's offenses with other teams, or remembers what it was like in 2017, 2018...

I was just thinking about how Shanahan caters scheme to personnel. Under the current 49ers, he just has a stable of pass-catchers that can just run after the catch... versatile chess pieces in Kittle and Juice. So not a surprise that we have heavy pre-snap motion, and plays designed to get guys open in space.

What was it like with Atlanta and other stops? In 2017, 2018 when he was still gathering players?
As I understand it, Atlanta also ran a zone running scheme and thrived off play action? But they're different in that Matt Ryan is a more classic dropback passer that can make all the throws superlatively? And they had a Julio Jones.

Personally I think Kyle's offense resembled more of the current Miami offense, when Kyle was operating that Atlanta offense under Matt Ryan. It was an explosive offense with fast but undersized running backs. Great WR talent. And a QB that had a great arm. I think Kyle's gotten more ground and pound, and more ball hogging on offense nowadays vs that time when he was just an offensive coordinator in Atlanta.

Dec 9, 2023 at 5:37 PM

#59843

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is he still on the hot seat?

Dec 10, 2023 at 6:50 AM

#59844

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
is he still on the hot seat?

I cannot believe that almost a quarter of this forum is not sold on Kyle. Wonder how much that changes after we win the SB this season?

Dec 10, 2023 at 7:23 AM

#59845

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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
is he still on the hot seat?

I cannot believe that almost a quarter of this forum is not sold on Kyle. Wonder how much that changes after we win the SB this season?

Winning a Superbowl should kill off ALL the noise, but I'm sure there will be a small few pockets of fans that will come right back if he doesn't win it the following year.

Dec 10, 2023 at 7:33 AM

#59846

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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Once he realizes our line sucks and gave extra help and let purdy cook we destroyed them.

Took him two series but he figured out the right side is pathetic and brendel snapping at purdys knees.

After he brought tight end help purdy just ate them up.

That chip play to kittle is unstoppable. Calling on here for weeks and we finally ran it and it was huge.

We should run it like 3-5 times a game. It will eat up reddick and Parsons every time.

Idk if this was the plan but you know Kyle likes to do things to set up for other things. My thought is he was confirming that the Eagles abd Reddick in particular were sold out to go after Purdy, just like the NFCCG. I kind of like the way we switched up. Before Philly realized what was happening, they were down 21 -6. It really was brilliantly called against a very undisciplined defense.

Dec 10, 2023 at 8:09 AM

#59847

ritz126
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
is he still on the hot seat?

the only one with a cooler seat around the league is Andy reid

Dec 10, 2023 at 10:39 AM

#59848

Giedi
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
is he still on the hot seat?

More like he's sitting on the throne of bone, and Brock's giving him extra life.

Dec 10, 2023 at 11:13 AM

#59849

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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Winning a Superbowl should kill off ALL the noise, but I'm sure there will be a small few pockets of fans that will come right back if he doesn't win it the following year.

If we fail to win the SB, the narrative is going to turn into "Shanahan is a great coach. A genius playcaller and designer… but he just can't win the big one."

With all the talent we have, it'd be a major question mark of why we can't win it. But whenever these discussions happen, I'm always like "Who would you replace Shanahan with?"

You never know if a great HC is going to be Marty Schottenheimer or Bill Cowher.

Dec 10, 2023 at 11:24 AM

#59850

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Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
is he still on the hot seat?

the only one with a cooler seat around the league is Andy reid

I'd say John Harbaugh completes the "ice cold seat" trio.