49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If coaches never felt a need to make in game adjustments, they would script the entire game. But yes, you do you, bud.

OMG I never said they don't. In fact I said they do and it's a play by play game flow situation…my point for the one billionth time is I do not agree with the coming out of the locker room second half only adjustment takes.

it's an overblown talking point. Why do they have to wait until halftime to make all these adjustments? You see something do it now. Not wait for all the players to have a protein bar and take a s**t at half time.

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Open letter to Coach Shanahan. Coach, I hope you're visiting this forum from time to time particularly your thread. I hope you understand how we, as fans, are really really really super desperate to get our "Sixth" just as how we know you are too for sure. I just want to suggest to you to have Brock spend some time with your dad Mike during the off season just like Jimmy did when he was doing his rehab after the surgery. I know that there's tons of priceless benefits Brock can gain from your dad's wisdom, knowledge, and ideas. Anyway, I'm pretty sure they'll click right away because they are both football junkies. Hopefully Mike wouldn't mind serving as a mentor to your very promising Quarterback. Thank you, sir.

Nice post man

Wonder which phrase Shanahan was saying to himself after looking at some of those Chief red zone plays:

1) "I was going to call the exact same play."

2) "Ohhh , so that's how you do it."

3) "I would handed off to Toney to the left like Deebo."

4) "Should have f**kin drafted Mahomes."

5) "WTF?!"

6) "I didn't know you can get players that wide open."

7) "Who in the hell is going be my QB next season to do that sh*t."

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Wonder which phrase Shanahan was saying to himself after looking at some of those Chief red zone plays:

1) "I was going to call the exact same play."

2) "Ohhh , so that's how you do it."

3) "I would handed off to Toney to the left like Deebo."

4) "Should have f**kin drafted Mahomes."

5) "WTF?!"

6) "I didn't know you can get players that wide open."

7) "Who in the hell is going be my QB next season to do that sh*t."

This is the top question and 7 years into the KS experience, it's always been the top question. Still searching for THAT GUY.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DrEll:
He was burned for it, despite winning the SB in 94.

Which was really dumb and reactionary. What hurt those teams most and what ultimately killed off the 49ers dynasty run was years of terrible drafting and bad free agent signings. They lost tons of depth that was never replaced and made bad moves that left the team weak or barren at key positions while continually pointing the finger at the coach, the quarterback or whatever other convenient scapegoat.

It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

If McVay had another losing season in 2023 would you fire him?

He won a SB.

So did Doug Pederson. Would you fire Sean McVay if he had another losing season in 2023?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

So Walsh should've been fired after losing to the Vikes?

Again you're both trying to make an apple to oranges comparison. Both McVay and Walsh WON Superbowls. They're proven winners. Some of the few coaches to hold a SB trophy. Can't lump Kyle into that group just bc he's an excellent play caller. Nobody crowned Andy Reid as one of the greats until he won a SB. He was an afterthought until that debacle from Kyle a few years ago. And now after yesterdays win he will be considered one of the greats.

you win a SB, you've proven yourself. you get the benefit of the doubt. You win a handful of second place trophies, you don't deserve squat. Certainly not the same accolades that SB winning coaches deserve.

but like I said, this fan base has become accustomed to mediocrity. The "almost Supers" is fitting for this current team and it's supporters…

Originally posted by DrEll:
Again you're both trying to make an apple to oranges comparison. Both McVay and Walsh WON Superbowls. They're proven winners. Some of the few coaches to hold a SB trophy. Can't lump Kyle into that group just bc he's an excellent play caller. Nobody crowned Andy Reid as one of the greats until he won a SB. He was an afterthought until that debacle from Kyle a few years ago. And now after yesterdays win he will be considered one of the greats.

you win a SB, you've proven yourself. you get the benefit of the doubt. You win a handful of second place trophies, you don't deserve squat. Certainly not the same accolades that SB winning coaches deserve.

but like I said, this fan base has become accustomed to mediocrity. The "almost Supers" is fitting for this current team and it's supporters…

So if a coach doesn't win a SB within his first 5 years on the job you fire him and keep doing that until you find a guy who can win a SB in first 5 years?

Are the Eagles better off with Sirianni than the guy they fired who has since won 2 SB's?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Admittedly I am not following every post and this thread flies, but who is bringing him up? You brought him up the other day when I say KS needs to learn to win it all. I guess I understand the comparisons, at least earlier in their HC careers, but imo its rude to Reid to compare Kyle to him.

You also contradicted yourself....We cant say anything negative about Kyle otherwise I am assumed I hate him and he needs to be fired. I'm stupid because he's an amazing coach blah blah blah. Yet you are knocking Reid every chance you get, then turn around and call him a HoF coach? I fell like you are not applying the same standards to both of them. Usually we agree on 99% of topics, but I've noticed you can be very condescending to posters who disagree with you.

I know! Second half adjustments exposed the Eagles d via simplicity as 9moon stated. Reid is a fantastic coach and has a great staff and roster.

I love how he didn't draft Mahomes, as if he has not been the one coaching him since the day he's been drafted. Its a silly take.

The people bringing him up are the same people that think kyle stinks, can't get over the hump or just being annoying trolls.

nowhere did I say you can't say anything negative. Acting like our HC is the problem imo is f**king stupid and a lazy ass take.

I'm not knocking Reid. I'm pointing out some takes in here about him are simply not true. He did not find Mahomes. He didn't "get over the hump" until the Michael Jordan of the NFL showed up in KC. I pointed out a couple plays that had little to do with coaching (there's plenty of plays that did)…s**t people in here were whining about a backup TE blocking Reddick. Well holy s**t Andy did the SAME thing last night lol.

I had nothing to do with those posters and you lumped me in. So there is the confusion. I had no idea Reid was a topic here.

I don't think Kyle sucks, I think he can improve and its fair to question it ( and the entire point of these interactions). People automatically think if you're critiquing him you want him gone. Forums can suck because text does not convey tone.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Again you're both trying to make an apple to oranges comparison. Both McVay and Walsh WON Superbowls. They're proven winners. Some of the few coaches to hold a SB trophy. Can't lump Kyle into that group just bc he's an excellent play caller. Nobody crowned Andy Reid as one of the greats until he won a SB. He was an afterthought until that debacle from Kyle a few years ago. And now after yesterdays win he will be considered one of the greats.

you win a SB, you've proven yourself. you get the benefit of the doubt. You win a handful of second place trophies, you don't deserve squat. Certainly not the same accolades that SB winning coaches deserve.

but like I said, this fan base has become accustomed to mediocrity. The "almost Supers" is fitting for this current team and it's supporters…

So if a coach doesn't win a SB within his first 5 years on the job you fire him and keep doing that until you find a guy who can win a SB in first 5 years?

Are the Eagles better off with Sirianni than the guy they fired who has since won 2 SB's?

It took Andy Reid 20 years to win a SB. You think the Eagles should have kept him around bc he would have eventually won one ?

I know that may be the mentality for some fans with Kyle, but I hope and pray that the Yorks aren't that dumb and keep him around just hoping he will one day win one.

If Kyle doesn't win one this year, he needs to be on the hot seat. He fails to win it in 2024 and starts losing studs like Trent etc he needs to get out of town…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DrEll:
He was burned for it, despite winning the SB in 94.

Which was really dumb and reactionary. What hurt those teams most and what ultimately killed off the 49ers dynasty run was years of terrible drafting and bad free agent signings. They lost tons of depth that was never replaced and made bad moves that left the team weak or barren at key positions while continually pointing the finger at the coach, the quarterback or whatever other convenient scapegoat.

It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

If McVay had another losing season in 2023 would you fire him?

He won a SB.

So did Doug Pederson. Would you fire Sean McVay if he had another losing season in 2023?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

So Walsh should've been fired after losing to the Vikes?

Again you're both trying to make an apple to oranges comparison. Both McVay and Walsh WON Superbowls. They're proven winners. Some of the few coaches to hold a SB trophy. Can't lump Kyle into that group just bc he's an excellent play caller. Nobody crowned Andy Reid as one of the greats until he won a SB. He was an afterthought until that debacle from Kyle a few years ago. And now after yesterdays win he will be considered one of the greats.

you win a SB, you've proven yourself. you get the benefit of the doubt. You win a handful of second place trophies, you don't deserve squat. Certainly not the same accolades that SB winning coaches deserve.

but like I said, this fan base has become accustomed to mediocrity. The "almost Supers" is fitting for this current team and it's supporters…

Fair. So if you don't win, when do you fire the coach (excluding obvious situations where the team is terrible and has made no progress)?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DrEll:
He was burned for it, despite winning the SB in 94.

Which was really dumb and reactionary. What hurt those teams most and what ultimately killed off the 49ers dynasty run was years of terrible drafting and bad free agent signings. They lost tons of depth that was never replaced and made bad moves that left the team weak or barren at key positions while continually pointing the finger at the coach, the quarterback or whatever other convenient scapegoat.

It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

If McVay had another losing season in 2023 would you fire him?

He won a SB.

So did Doug Pederson. Would you fire Sean McVay if he had another losing season in 2023?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
It's because Eddie held his coaches accountable. Whether it was justified is another debate. I'm sorry but to me constantly losing in the playoffs in not success. All it does is lower our draft position, make us bleed coaches, and pay out a hefty sum to a beefed up roster that is almost good enough.

what's the definition of insanity again ?

So Walsh should've been fired after losing to the Vikes?

Again you're both trying to make an apple to oranges comparison. Both McVay and Walsh WON Superbowls. They're proven winners. Some of the few coaches to hold a SB trophy. Can't lump Kyle into that group just bc he's an excellent play caller. Nobody crowned Andy Reid as one of the greats until he won a SB. He was an afterthought until that debacle from Kyle a few years ago. And now after yesterdays win he will be considered one of the greats.

you win a SB, you've proven yourself. you get the benefit of the doubt. You win a handful of second place trophies, you don't deserve squat. Certainly not the same accolades that SB winning coaches deserve.

but like I said, this fan base has become accustomed to mediocrity. The "almost Supers" is fitting for this current team and it's supporters…

"mediocrity." is what the entire league lives with. LOL. Spoiled fans "I want a title" it's so easy right? 99.9 % of the fans can't do their job as well as these athletes do their jobs at the level that perform at. The fans know so much more than the professionals doing the work...lol

NOT that Mahomes was VERY special in last night's Super Bowl... but I'd still like for someone especially Grant to ask Kyle just what he saw from CJ that convinced him that he can pass on Mahomes and take CJ in the 3rd Round if he was there..

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT that Mahomes was VERY special in last night's Super Bowl... but I'd still like for someone especially Grant to ask Kyle just what he saw from CJ that convinced him that he can pass on Mahomes and take CJ in the 3rd Round if he was there..

Gotta ask B. Veach and Nagy the guys that Reid hired in Philly and brought with him to KC they found Mahomes per NY this is well documented.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT that Mahomes was VERY special in last night's Super Bowl... but I'd still like for someone especially Grant to ask Kyle just what he saw from CJ that convinced him that he can pass on Mahomes and take CJ in the 3rd Round if he was there..

Gotta ask B. Veach and Nagy the guys that Reid hired in Philly and brought with him to KC they found Mahomes per NY this is well documented.

I just want to put the so called Best Young Mind in the NFL on that spot and give him a chance as to how he can give Mahomes the highest rating QB in that draft, then go w/CJ in the 3rd.. he's gotta have his reasons..

... or he truly is that HC who believes that he can make any QB looks good in his offense..

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I had nothing to do with those posters and you lumped me in. So there is the confusion. I had no idea Reid was a topic here.

I don't think Kyle sucks, I think he can improve and its fair to question it ( and the entire point of these interactions). People automatically think if you're critiquing him you want him gone. Forums can suck because text does not convey tone.

Overall I'm not lumping you in. I think some of the criticism in here aren't justified. I think some are.

I agree SM in general stink when it comes to discussions like these.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT that Mahomes was VERY special in last night's Super Bowl... but I'd still like for someone especially Grant to ask Kyle just what he saw from CJ that convinced him that he can pass on Mahomes and take CJ in the 3rd Round if he was there..

Gotta ask B. Veach and Nagy the guys that Reid hired in Philly and brought with him to KC they found Mahomes per NY this is well documented.

Scouting isn't easy but people in here act like it is. Most people had a 2nd round grade on Mahomes a majority of the draft cycle until the draft got closer cause air raid QBs had a stigma. If we were gonna take a QB we were in perfect position to take the universally considered QB1 of that draft Mitch Trubisky. We unfortunately took the rock solid can't miss prospect in Solomon Thomas. Good thing Kyle has found all pros not just pro bowlers but all pros in the 2nd round, 3rd round and 5th round. Not many GMs have as incredible a draft record as Kyle. We are lucky to have such a remarkable football mind.