49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Yes. We should all strive to analyze football like Arjun Menon.

Too complex for you I'm assuming.

Yes. Too complex.

Just read the f**king sentence and look how bizarre that sounds. Like that one point justifies being coach of the year.

And then the follow up sentence takes it over the top.

Not only that, how do you even create a stat like that? It's so full of s**t. Dude should go back to USC or MIT take his data analytics elsewhere where it actually means something.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Yes. We should all strive to analyze football like Arjun Menon.

Too complex for you I'm assuming.

Yes. Too complex.

Just read the f**king sentence and look how bizarre that sounds. Like that one point justifies being coach of the year.

And then the follow up sentence takes it over the top.

Not only that, how do you even create a stat like that? It's so full of s**t. Dude should go back to USC or MIT take his data analytics elsewhere where it actually means something.

Most NFL teams use advanced data analytics. Sorry this hurts your brain lol.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Yes. We should all strive to analyze football like Arjun Menon.

Too complex for you I'm assuming.

Yes. Too complex.

Just read the f**king sentence and look how bizarre that sounds. Like that one point justifies being coach of the year.

And then the follow up sentence takes it over the top.

Not only that, how do you even create a stat like that? It's so full of s**t. Dude should go back to USC or MIT take his data analytics elsewhere where it actually means something.

Most NFL teams use advanced data analytics. Sorry this hurts your brain lol.

Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat. I'm sick and tired of arjun. I'm sick and tired of anything pff.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Yes. We should all strive to analyze football like Arjun Menon.

Too complex for you I'm assuming.

Yes. Too complex.

Just read the f**king sentence and look how bizarre that sounds. Like that one point justifies being coach of the year.

And then the follow up sentence takes it over the top.

Not only that, how do you even create a stat like that? It's so full of s**t. Dude should go back to USC or MIT take his data analytics elsewhere where it actually means something.

Most NFL teams use advanced data analytics. Sorry this hurts your brain lol.

Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat. I'm sick and tired of arjun. I'm sick and tired of anything pff.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Yes. We should all strive to analyze football like Arjun Menon.

Too complex for you I'm assuming.

Yes. Too complex.

Just read the f**king sentence and look how bizarre that sounds. Like that one point justifies being coach of the year.

And then the follow up sentence takes it over the top.

Not only that, how do you even create a stat like that? It's so full of s**t. Dude should go back to USC or MIT take his data analytics elsewhere where it actually means something.

Most NFL teams use advanced data analytics. Sorry this hurts your brain lol.

Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat. I'm sick and tired of arjun. I'm sick and tired of anything pff.

lol

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#Texans are hiring #49ers defensive quality control coach Stephen Adegoke as safeties coach, per a league source

— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) February 11, 2023

Tired of all of our guys getting poached each damn year

Is there a website that tracks staff turnover? Just wondering where we stand.

Next to be poached - Jane from Accounting.

What happened to Joan from payroll?

Purged after the Chip Kelly regime.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat. I'm sick and tired of arjun. I'm sick and tired of anything pff.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat.

# of posts JoseC works the semi-word "f**k" into: 86.7%

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan should've been coach of the year for how good he was at forcing broken coverage from opposing defenses this year. Also, I don't think Nathaniel Hackett was that bad of an offensive playcaller and could be a good hire for the Jets pic.twitter.com/K2ZTzPbr7i

— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) February 11, 2023

Does not take into account quarterback position or time for play to develop.

Ie if there's a guy schemed open deep left and my QB is rolling right it does nothing. Same if you scheme a guy open deep but you leave a free rusher. It's basically not possible to just look at it and say one team is better or worse than another.

Same if the QB is under duress he won't hit a guy open the same as if he can place the ball better by making a better throw even if the guy is covered.

I assume if your team is blitzed more often then more often there's going to be a guy uncovered. Does not mean the play was a good call or successful.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Youre right. I'm lost. Please explain to me how the f**k you define "offensive perfectly covered faced percentage"



It's a made up stat. You can make anything a stat. I'm sick and tired of arjun. I'm sick and tired of anything pff.

i had it with "turnover worthy plays" and "big time throws"

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Does not take into account quarterback position or time for play to develop.

Ie if there's a guy schemed open deep left and my QB is rolling right it does nothing. Same if you scheme a guy open deep but you leave a free rusher. It's basically not possible to just look at it and say one team is better or worse than another.

Same if the QB is under duress he won't hit a guy open the same as if he can place the ball better by making a better throw even if the guy is covered.

I assume if your team is blitzed more often then more often there's going to be a guy uncovered. Does not mean the play was a good call or successful.

Let's go with "successful" because a "good play call" is in the eye of the beholder that uses hindsight to "evaluate" things.

So going on success,...Let's use the defense as a reference point then.

How many categories were they ranked #1 in? So you piece that together with the results from this chart and it magnifies how good of a job they did all year.

Now,...the offense: Just use common sense. If there were constantly guys running free in comparison to other offenses,... and the entire season was taken into account....then obviously, something was being done right offensively.

The microanalysis works legitimately on, say, 1 game. But you compile 17 of them for all teams and the "this doesnt really tell us much" noise is pretty much muted.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Does not take into account quarterback position or time for play to develop.

Ie if there's a guy schemed open deep left and my QB is rolling right it does nothing. Same if you scheme a guy open deep but you leave a free rusher. It's basically not possible to just look at it and say one team is better or worse than another.

Same if the QB is under duress he won't hit a guy open the same as if he can place the ball better by making a better throw even if the guy is covered.

I assume if your team is blitzed more often then more often there's going to be a guy uncovered. Does not mean the play was a good call or successful.

Let's go with "successful" because a "good play call" is in the eye of the beholder that uses hindsight to "evaluate" things.

So going on success,...Let's use the defense as a reference point then.

How many categories were they ranked #1 in? So you piece that together with the results from this chart and it magnifies how good of a job they did all year.

Now,...the offense: Just use common sense. If there were constantly guys running free in comparison to other offenses,... and the entire season was taken into account....then obviously, something was being done right offensively.

The microanalysis works legitimately on, say, 1 game. But you compile 17 of them for all teams and the "this doesnt really tell us much" noise is pretty much muted.

The argument is with more guys uncovered than in theory the offense should be more successful.

As I stated it does not account for blitz percentage or play time which makes it flawed.

It's the same argument saying the play that got purdy hurt on and josh Johnson took a 10 yard sack was a great play because a guy was running free open.

There's too many factors to boiling it down to a guy just not having another guy in his vicinity to whether a play will work.

If that was the case then why even block for the QB just let free rushers come and have those guys go out for a pass. More uncovered plays right?

Kyle is good at scheming guys open. Saying he should have been coach of the year because he has the most guys open is misleading. Or that offensively he is heads and shoulders above everyone else is also misleading.

So if the QB fails to read the defense correctly or an O lineman fails to execute his block, that somehow negates the fact that Kyle schemed receivers open consistently? Sounds like folks are letting their a*****es talk s**t behind them. I bet they don't even know at what percentage our offense was blitzed or how it compares to the rest of the league. Some fans will say anything just to downplay any data that shows why Kyle is a brilliant offensive mind and a top 5 HC in this league.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So if the QB fails to read the defense correctly or an O lineman fails to execute his block, that somehow negates the fact that Kyle schemed receivers open consistently? Sounds like folks are letting their a*****es talk s**t behind them. I bet they don't even know at what percentage our offense was blitzed or how it compares to the rest of the league. Some fans will say anything just to downplay any data that shows why Kyle is a brilliant offensive mind and a top 5 HC in this league.

The thing that most excites me about this data as well as the potential of Brock and Trey, is that we are going to see big plays at a regular clip in this offense. Brock showed that. I was used to use ripping off great runs here and there, but the big 20+ yard passes were lacking. If our defense can continue to generate turnovers and we can hit on even more of those big plays, this offense is going to be tough to stop- barring health.