49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

LOL. There could be a ton of reasons for this esp. given he's a first time HC now and not a run and RZ coordinator.

The bigger point is 'together' last year they did a great job. And that's fallen off. That's undeniable. And there could be a ton of reasons for that too.

The bigger point is this is still an area of concern heading into the post season. If we want to win a Superbowl, that is.

Our run game has been better than MIA's and their redzone offense hasn't been much better than ours. With Brock starting our redzone offense has gone up 10 percentage points higher than our season average. That is something we should keep an eye on the rest of the season.

Obviously Kyle and Mike were great together but I don't think one was the sole reason for the success they've had.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

LOL. There could be a ton of reasons for this esp. given he's a first time HC now and not a run and RZ coordinator.

The bigger point is 'together' last year they did a great job. And that's fallen off. That's undeniable. And there could be a ton of reasons for that too.

The bigger point is this is still an area of concern heading into the post season. If we want to win a Superbowl, that is.

Our run game has been better than MIA's and their redzone offense hasn't been much better than ours. With Brock starting our redzone offense has gone up 10 percentage points higher than our season average. That is something we should keep an eye on the rest of the season.

Obviously Kyle and Mike were great together but I don't think one was the sole reason for the success they've had.

Nobody is making excuses here, just noting facts. Is it a coincidence we've fallen off in the run game and RZ (4 minute offense)?

Together they were dynamic and they had 15 years to perfect it. Now it's a different dynamic for both guys.

McDaniel is a very creative mind and he had a specialist role here for the two areas we excelled at last year, naturally.

As to the sole reason, I couldn't agree more. Not sure how that got spun that way by the Shanahan truthers. It's probably not a coincidence it's dipped since he left though. But he wasn't the sole reason it has.

But as you noted, it could start to get better and better too. It was going to take Kyle some time to reallocate resources to that focus...train his staff...and execute it on the field.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

LOL. There could be a ton of reasons for this esp. given he's a first time HC now and not a run and RZ coordinator.

The bigger point is 'together' last year they did a great job. And that's fallen off. That's undeniable. And there could be a ton of reasons for that too.

The bigger point is this is still an area of concern heading into the post season. If we want to win a Superbowl, that is.

Our run game has been better than MIA's and their redzone offense hasn't been much better than ours. With Brock starting our redzone offense has gone up 10 percentage points higher than our season average. That is something we should keep an eye on the rest of the season.

Obviously Kyle and Mike were great together but I don't think one was the sole reason for the success they've had.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

LOL. There could be a ton of reasons for this esp. given he's a first time HC now and not a run and RZ coordinator.

The bigger point is 'together' last year they did a great job. And that's fallen off. That's undeniable. And there could be a ton of reasons for that too.

The bigger point is this is still an area of concern heading into the post season. If we want to win a Superbowl, that is.

Our run game has been better than MIA's and their redzone offense hasn't been much better than ours. With Brock starting our redzone offense has gone up 10 percentage points higher than our season average. That is something we should keep an eye on the rest of the season.

Obviously Kyle and Mike were great together but I don't think one was the sole reason for the success they've had.

This s/b the focus! Loved that YAC dove into this. And we play a really good defense on Saturday. The sample will keep growing more and more.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nobody is making excuses here, just noting facts. Is it a coincidence we've fallen off in the run game and RZ (4 minute offense)?

Together they were dynamic and they had 15 years to perfect it. Now it's a different dynamic for both guys.

McDaniel is a very creative mind and he had a specialist role here for the two areas we excelled at last year, naturally.

As to the sole reason, I couldn't agree more. Not sure how that got spun that way by the Shanahan truthers. It's probably not a coincidence it's dipped since he left though. But he wasn't the sole reason it has.

But as you noted, it could start to get better and better too. It was going to take Kyle some time to reallocate resources to that focus...train his staff...and execute it on the field.

Run blocking has fallen off which in turn has hurt the red zone success. You pair that with a qb who struggles to read defenses and things can easily fall off.

Now that the 9ers have a guy who seemingly does read defenses well in a small sample things have ticked up.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

They have different players.
He inherited a near bottom of the league offense. He has done a great job IMO.

Kyle has also done a great job with his offense since losing McDaniels. Coach of the Year for sure.

1) McDaniel's done a great job and Kyle has done a great job. Now that that's out the way....

2) You didn't at all address the RZ offense point. And you...

3) ...maybe don't know the poster they're responding to. But there is alot of over-emphasis on the "coaching" and "playcallers" within his posts.
He's been told over and over that maybe he should consider the players as well, but he ignores this and puts everything on the guys calling the plays.

So basically, in the bold above you're agreeing with the premise without realizing it.

We averaged 4.3 ypc last season on the ground. We had 1 rusher with 20 or more carries that averaged more than 5.0 ypc and that was Deebo (6.2 ypc). We had 14 runs of 20+ yards, 22 rushing TD's and 130 1st downs.

This season we are averaging 4.5 ypc on the ground. We have 4 rushers with 20 or more carries that have averaged over 5.0 ypc this season. We have 16 runs of 20+ yards, 14 rushing TD's and 106 1st downs with 3 games to go.

We are on pace to rush for 102 more yards than last season, 5 more 20+ yard runs, 5 less TD's and 2 less 1st downs. We may end up with less rushing TD's and possibly less 1st downs but have been better everywhere else. Our running game hasn't dopped off like some are assuming.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If McDaniel's is the reason why our redzone offense was #1 last season and was the reason our run game was so great last season. Tell me why Miami is ranked 10th in redzone this season? Even worse, they are only 25% in the redzone over the last 3 weeks. Also, their run game is one of worste in the NFL this season. Something doesn't add up here.

They have different players.
He inherited a near bottom of the league offense. He has done a great job IMO.

Kyle has also done a great job with his offense since losing McDaniels. Coach of the Year for sure.

1) McDaniels has done a great job and Kyle has done a great job. Now that that's out the way....

2) You didn't at all address the RZ offense point. And you...

3) ...maybe don't know the poster they're responding to. But there is alot of over-emphasis on the "coaching" and "playcallers" within his posts.
He's been told over and over that maybe he should consider the players as well, but he ignores this and puts everything on the guys calling the plays.

So basically, in the bold above you're agreeing with the premise without realizing it.

I've been so lost in these conversations thinking everyone was referring to the Raiders coach.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Run blocking has fallen off which in turn has hurt the red zone success. You pair that with a qb who struggles to read defenses and things can easily fall off.

Now that the 9ers have a guy who seemingly does read defenses well in a small sample things have ticked up.

@ least there's been a shift to what they've done "together",...and a little away from McDaniel being the real brains behind everything.

Hadn't seen that "togetherness" phrase used before,....so maybe he's coming around.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
I've been so lost in these conversations thinking everyone was referring to the Raiders coach.

Edited. I'm always fumbling around with that extra "s"

Happy to have this coach. I hope he coaches until he's 60 for us and becomes the franchise leader in wins

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Happy to have this coach. I hope he coaches until he's 60 for us and becomes the franchise leader in wins

Yes! Then maybe his son will go into coaching.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Yes! Then maybe his son will go into coaching.

He's coaching the Rams

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Yes! Then maybe his son will go into coaching.

He's coaching the Rams

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Run blocking has fallen off which in turn has hurt the red zone success. You pair that with a qb who struggles to read defenses and things can easily fall off.

Now that the 9ers have a guy who seemingly does read defenses well in a small sample things have ticked up.

Acording to YAC, it's sounding like it's caught up to last year's numbers. Maybe just a different style is why we both think this. Less explosives and home runs and more IZ and gap/power?

I can't speak to the research from last year but it sure felt like we were money in the RZ and yes, agreed, the running was a big success there.

Definitely, this is the area I'm really excited to watch develop. Run blocking too. We're going to need it!