49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by iLLEST209ER:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's doing pretty good right now. The only thing I would quit is stop sending Ray Ray McCloud deep down the field for bombs. He's a little guy with short little arms. He doesn't high point well. I don't understand the obsession with sending him deep down the middle in every game. Somebody else. Anybody else. Anybody with taller height and longer arms. He's a good return man. Let him do that.

Have to put it on film so teams will at least respect it somewhat and waste time preparing for it. Also we all know shanahan loves to call plays that set up other plays, I believe this is one of them. Chess not checkers

Maybe so. I'd like to see some other guys doing that route. Anybody else. Someone taller.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

There were two plays where Ramsey almost had a pick. I'm talking about the first one. Jeff Wilson ran straight up the field and two other WRs were in the same area.

That's on Kyle IMO.

Rewatch that play. Ramsey had to high point that ball in order to tip it and it fell harmlessly to the turf. Ramsey really had no shot at intercepting it inspite of what the announcer said during the broadcast.

Well regardless if Ramsey had a real shot to intercept the ball or not, my point was that these strange plays where everything is condensed into one area is not helping Jimmy.

I feel like it's only fair that I point that out.

With how high that ball was thrown, Jimmy was targeting either CMC or Kittle. Its hard to tell because of how quickly the ball was thrown what routes those 2 were supposed to run. Wilson on the other hand ran his route too deep.

CMC wasnt on the field on the play I'm talking about.

Its at :43

That is the same play I am referring to. If it isn't CMC than who is the receiver in the slot between Kittle and Aiyuk before the snap?

83 is the number

All I saw was the 3 and it was a white guy. ????

It's kind of hard to tell since the routes are at the edge of the screen. It looks like Snead and Kittle run In routes past the 1st down marker, while Wilson runs a Texas route. Ramsey plays the middle zone.

- Wilson definitely ran his route too deep. He should be available as an underneath option, should Ramsey play deeper to cover Snead or Kittle.
- From there, I'm not too sure what the play is supposed to be. I THINK Snead is supposed to be the first option. And I think Kittle might pick Ramsey, hence Kittle's contact there.
- Jimmy seemed to have Snead open for a moment, but he didn't throw and pump-faked. Not sure if he hesitated, or was trying to move Ramsey toward Snead... to free up Kittle?
- Then he tried to float it over to Kittle toward the right hash, but Ramsey sat there and made a very athletic play to tip the ball.
- Given that Ramsey sat there, the play probably should've had Wilson run a more shallow route and Jimmy should've just dumped it off to him and given him a chance to run for the 1st down marker.

Great explanation. Definitely sums it up for me. The play was irrelevant to the outcome of the game and we probably shouldn't spend too much time on it anyway.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
All I saw was the 3 and a white guy. 🤣

Apparently it wasn't even a white guy. 😅

i saw the 3 and assumed .. your last comment = lol

Who I was referring to was irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. You were the one still hung up on the name even after I explained that I was referring to the guy in the slot.

what? i didn't even acknowledge that guy cause he wasn't even close to throw ..remember

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Anyone who cannot give Jimmy credit for both the Kittle and CMC TD passes have blinders on.

Jimmy basically had at least one play to satisfy every fan's Good Jimmy Wishlist.

I would have been satisfied with the dump offs and no forced passes into coverage. You certainly called that adjustment earlier last week.

Right? It's just funny that we needed to add the Alex Smith check down to balance out the offense. We've come full circle. Thanks for the call out!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

You're so salty Jimmy played well. LOL. Plus Stafford got worked again so 9ers4eva and you had a really rough day. We're here to get you through it though! LOL

Yeah, Jimmy mentioned he and Kittle's communication was off on that one but I wasn't sure what Jimmy was expecting him to do there? He sat down thinking it was a blitz? Keep going with the route? Either way that was Bad Jimmy there on the throw.

so you go on about cleaning things up and agree with me on jimmy on this play and you calling me salty lol

I still haven't seen you post a positive thing on Jimmy's play!

If I missed it, apologies.

I'm mostly playing...but yes, definitely agree with you on that one for sure.

this NC

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Since it was Kyle's, the defense's and others fault for losing not jimmy's.. then they should get all the credit for the win right ? lol

Makes perfect sense to me. I mean that is completely different than its been over the past few years. Jimmy gets all the credit when we win and Kyle gets all the blame when we lose.

Was this you giving Kyle and defense credit FTW this time? Ha

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Anyone who cannot give Jimmy credit for both the Kittle and CMC TD passes have blinders on.

Jimmy basically had at least one play to satisfy every fan's Good Jimmy Wishlist.

I would have been satisfied with the dump offs and no forced passes into coverage. You certainly called that adjustment earlier last week.

Right? It's just funny that we needed to add the Alex Smith check down to balance out the offense. We've come full circle. Thanks for the call out!

lol BS

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

You're so salty Jimmy played well. LOL. Plus Stafford got worked again so 9ers4eva and you had a really rough day. We're here to get you through it though! LOL

Yeah, Jimmy mentioned he and Kittle's communication was off on that one but I wasn't sure what Jimmy was expecting him to do there? He sat down thinking it was a blitz? Keep going with the route? Either way that was Bad Jimmy there on the throw.

so you go on about cleaning things up and agree with me on jimmy on this play and you calling me salty lol

I still haven't seen you post a positive thing on Jimmy's play!

If I missed it, apologies.

I'm mostly playing...but yes, definitely agree with you on that one for sure.

this NC

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Since it was Kyle's, the defense's and others fault for losing not jimmy's.. then they should get all the credit for the win right ? lol

Makes perfect sense to me. I mean that is completely different than its been over the past few years. Jimmy gets all the credit when we win and Kyle gets all the blame when we lose.

Was this you giving Kyle and defense credit FTW this time? Ha

if they are always the blame when we lose.. then they should get credit right ?

Shanny probably watching old Marshall Faulk tapes now that he got CMC

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

There were two plays where Ramsey almost had a pick. I'm talking about the first one. Jeff Wilson ran straight up the field and two other WRs were in the same area.

That's on Kyle IMO.

Rewatch that play. Ramsey had to high point that ball in order to tip it and it fell harmlessly to the turf. Ramsey really had no shot at intercepting it inspite of what the announcer said during the broadcast.

Well regardless if Ramsey had a real shot to intercept the ball or not, my point was that these strange plays where everything is condensed into one area is not helping Jimmy.

I feel like it's only fair that I point that out.

With how high that ball was thrown, Jimmy was targeting either CMC or Kittle. Its hard to tell because of how quickly the ball was thrown what routes those 2 were supposed to run. Wilson on the other hand ran his route too deep.

Is this particular play posted anywhere?
I need to see it---I'm not sure it's fair to critique a play where receivers are condensed into one area. My assumption is there's an overload concept where they flood a zone with multiple receivers and the defender can only cover one, or they're creating traffic (like the Rams' Higbee drop).

We have to borrow that route. It essentially created an explosion of bodies in the middle of the field with one guy running past them wide open for what certainly could have been a TD.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by iLLEST209ER:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's doing pretty good right now. The only thing I would quit is stop sending Ray Ray McCloud deep down the field for bombs. He's a little guy with short little arms. He doesn't high point well. I don't understand the obsession with sending him deep down the middle in every game. Somebody else. Anybody else. Anybody with taller height and longer arms. He's a good return man. Let him do that.

Have to put it on film so teams will at least respect it somewhat and waste time preparing for it. Also we all know shanahan loves to call plays that set up other plays, I believe this is one of them. Chess not checkers

Maybe so. I'd like to see some other guys doing that route. Anybody else. Someone taller.

Shorter WR's can run Posts and Go routes without having Randy Moss height and ball skills.
I think the issue is that Jimmy can't hit that throw consistently. He doesn't have the timing, and his deep ball tends to float... In that case, yeah, it DOES turn into a contested, jump ball situation where Ray Ray probably doesn't win that one. At this point, it feels like a very low-percentage throw for us where either Ray Ray makes a miraculous play, or the defender panics and draws a Pass Interference.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

There were two plays where Ramsey almost had a pick. I'm talking about the first one. Jeff Wilson ran straight up the field and two other WRs were in the same area.

That's on Kyle IMO.

Rewatch that play. Ramsey had to high point that ball in order to tip it and it fell harmlessly to the turf. Ramsey really had no shot at intercepting it inspite of what the announcer said during the broadcast.

Well regardless if Ramsey had a real shot to intercept the ball or not, my point was that these strange plays where everything is condensed into one area is not helping Jimmy.

I feel like it's only fair that I point that out.

With how high that ball was thrown, Jimmy was targeting either CMC or Kittle. Its hard to tell because of how quickly the ball was thrown what routes those 2 were supposed to run. Wilson on the other hand ran his route too deep.

Is this particular play posted anywhere?
I need to see it---I'm not sure it's fair to critique a play where receivers are condensed into one area. My assumption is there's an overload concept where they flood a zone with multiple receivers and the defender can only cover one, or they're creating traffic (like the Rams' Higbee drop).

We have to borrow that route. It essentially created an explosion of bodies in the middle of the field with one guy running past them wide open for what certainly could have been a TD.

Agreed. I can totally see Kittle picking up an 80 yard TD on that kind of play.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Anyone who cannot give Jimmy credit for both the Kittle and CMC TD passes have blinders on.

Jimmy basically had at least one play to satisfy every fan's Good Jimmy Wishlist.

I would have been satisfied with the dump offs and no forced passes into coverage. You certainly called that adjustment earlier last week.

Right? It's just funny that we needed to add the Alex Smith check down to balance out the offense. We've come full circle. Thanks for the call out!

lol BS

If only there was evidence for this.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
CMC wasn't close .. jimmy threw a 33/33/33 ball to Ramsey/Wilson/Kittle

Welcome to the MrAllTheTime.. let's kill time during the week with a pointless debate for the week moment..
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Lol

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Shanny probably watching old Marshall Faulk tapes now that he got CMC

Faulk, Watters, Craig, etc. Then all the slot WR's too. And some ZWR stuff that's worked with Deebo.

So many options.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I've been pretty adamant in saying that I think the criticism of Kyle's coaching has been overblown in recent weeks. When you consider the horrible QB play vs Denver, the drops and penalties vs Atlanta, and the extensive execution errors vs KC.

But wanted to acknowledge that we still have some issues with some of our route concepts. If you go back and watch the first pass that Ramsey broke up yesterday, there were three WRs in the same area. I don't think we know if that's being coached or some players are just running the wrong routes, but we have seen this problem too often. And that does fall on KS to get that cleaned up.

So while I disagree that execution falls on coaching. There's certainly too many strange route concepts that condense the field and forces extremely risky passes by Jimmy. We saw some strange route concepts last week that were pointed out by Kurt Warner.

IMO Kyle's a far bigger asset than Jimmy is a QB. But Kyle has to eliminate these plays which forces Jimmy into bad decisions. I never thought Kyle was without criticism this season, but I think the route concept thing, his lack of attention to the OL, and clock management are still important issues, even if I believe Kyle's a very good offensive coach.

I think this could be looked at as a glass half full situation. If we eliminate those plays where all our receivers are in the same area, especially with CMC being Jimmy's check down outlet, I think this offense could become even better. Kyle's clearly had more on his plate this season with several losses on his coaching staff, but I expect this offense to improve going forward.

This.

The 2nd half showed you what the team can do when playing complementary smart football together and executing at a high level.

But the team still hasn't done this for 4 full quarters.

What still needs to be cleaned up still showed up in the first half: key penalties, missing layups, pass protection mental breakdowns leading to free rushers, run blocking gaffes, miss communication between QB and WR, odd routes/concepts, inability to communicate an adjustment in-game like defending the screen pass, RZ offense, (slow starts/second half issues), etc.

Most of this comes down to coaching, details, discipline and execution.

If they clean these up, look out.

what needs cleaning is locking onto Kittle and forcing it no matter what (Ramsey INT drop)

haven't seen the film on the 3 guys in the area , but i doubt the primary is to that side

There were two plays where Ramsey almost had a pick. I'm talking about the first one. Jeff Wilson ran straight up the field and two other WRs were in the same area.

That's on Kyle IMO.

Rewatch that play. Ramsey had to high point that ball in order to tip it and it fell harmlessly to the turf. Ramsey really had no shot at intercepting it inspite of what the announcer said during the broadcast.

Well regardless if Ramsey had a real shot to intercept the ball or not, my point was that these strange plays where everything is condensed into one area is not helping Jimmy.

I feel like it's only fair that I point that out.

With how high that ball was thrown, Jimmy was targeting either CMC or Kittle. Its hard to tell because of how quickly the ball was thrown what routes those 2 were supposed to run. Wilson on the other hand ran his route too deep.

Is this particular play posted anywhere?
I need to see it---I'm not sure it's fair to critique a play where receivers are condensed into one area. My assumption is there's an overload concept where they flood a zone with multiple receivers and the defender can only cover one, or they're creating traffic (like the Rams' Higbee drop).

We have to borrow that route. It essentially created an explosion of bodies in the middle of the field with one guy running past them wide open for what certainly could have been a TD.

Agreed. I can totally see Kittle picking up an 80 yard TD on that kind of play.

No doubt. Kittle would be laughing and running at the same time.