49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

We really think the entire staff in 6 years have never told Jimmy to come off double slant if there's an extra defender?

Originally posted by eastie:
Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

It isn't just practicing that gets results. It is about HOW you practice. Again, back to Walsh and Montana, Joe recalled how Bill was "obsessed" with proper arm angle, hip position and rotation, hand placement on the ball, etc. No detail was too small as to be ignored in the hope it would cure itself.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by eastie:
Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

It isn't just practicing that gets results. It is about HOW you practice. Again, back to Walsh and Montana, Joe recalled how Bill was "obsessed" with proper arm angle, hip position and rotation, hand placement on the ball, etc. No detail was too small as to be ignored in the hope it would cure itself.

not all coaches do that and QBs still find success

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Biggest think to take away from Warners video is Jimmy can't read defenses well. If you know your line is slanting and free blitzes are likely coming pre snap you have to get off the side with the multiple receivers and look toward the hot route from the runningback.

Why does the 3 receiver side need a hot? That should be ignored once you confirm the full blitz is coming.

Same thing on the McCaffrey hot play. When you see there's an unblocked guy and he's coming change to looking toward your outlet in flat.

Funny thing is he started doing that in 2nd half because I have no doubt Kyle told him at halftime to look at the hots on blitzes.

Kurt Warnes is a good example of a guy who failed and failed and failed until he finally received good coaching.

As to your take on Warner's analysis, I guess I was watching a different Kurt Warner video. If you would, link me to the one you watched and I'll take a look.

I mean..



It was a tough start.

Off topic but I miss Mark Brunell... he was like my AFC's Steve Young... those Jags teams were so fun to watch. Fred Taylor!!!!!!!, Jimmy Smith, Keenan Mccardell, Kyle Brady..

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by eastie:
Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

It isn't just practicing that gets results. It is about HOW you practice. Again, back to Walsh and Montana, Joe recalled how Bill was "obsessed" with proper arm angle, hip position and rotation, hand placement on the ball, etc. No detail was too small as to be ignored in the hope it would cure itself.

not all coaches do that and QBs still find success

Very few come out of college with sound fundamentals.

There is a reason good coaches win games and it isn't because they lucked-out on a good self-taught QB.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I mean..



It was a tough start.

Off topic but I miss Mark Brunell... he was like my AFC's Steve Young... those Jags teams were so fun to watch. Fred Taylor!!!!!!!, Jimmy Smith, Keenan Mccardell, Kyle Brady..

Fred Taylor one of the best of all time

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by eastie:
Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

It isn't just practicing that gets results. It is about HOW you practice. Again, back to Walsh and Montana, Joe recalled how Bill was "obsessed" with proper arm angle, hip position and rotation, hand placement on the ball, etc. No detail was too small as to be ignored in the hope it would cure itself.

not all coaches do that and QBs still find success

Very few come out of college with sound fundamentals.

There is a reason good coaches win games and it isn't because they lucked-out on a good self-taught QB.

sure they do .. but who do you consider that to be.. all the young top QBs are not fund. sound

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I mean..



It was a tough start.

Off topic but I miss Mark Brunell... he was like my AFC's Steve Young... those Jags teams were so fun to watch. Fred Taylor!!!!!!!, Jimmy Smith, Keenan Mccardell, Kyle Brady..

i liked the jags too lol

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by fropwns:
Tough to watch, but a fair analysis. I have to ask, what is Brian Griese doing? If it is me, I tell Grease "You stay with Jimmy Pornstar all day, every day, and we work on the simple stuff. Go grab a guy from the damn practice squad and have him work on simple completions."

I agree. I have said the same thing multiple times here.

I am a big fan of "good coaching." Having grown up in the Bill Walsh era, I know what good coaching is. I saw Walsh take guys like Jeff Kemp off the bench with another team and go win games against good teams. Bill Musgrave was another 2nd/3rd stringer that won a few games just because Walsh instilled good instincts and habits that other coaches ignored. Elvis Grbac was another Walsh creation. It was all a matter of spending the extra time to get things correct.

I don't buy for one hot minute the idea that Jimmy Garoppolo is no longer teachable. As you say, a good coach would pull up a couple of PS guys and work with Jimmy until his arm fell off. I recall Joe Montana telling about how Walsh would make him and Craig and Rathman stay after practice working on swing passes. They had to have 10 perfect completions in a row where the receiver did not have to vary his speed or route even a fraction in order to catch the ball. If anything went wrong, it was back to zero, and start the string all over. That is what Griese should be doing - getting the layups down so you just play it - you don't have to think about it.

We are both old enough to remember Walsh.

Swear to god, when Warner said you have to make the layups, I am sitting there going: Run drills. I mean that seams like an easy fix. Just run them. These are professionals. They should respond to coaching. For Jimmy, if he hopes for even a reasonable pay day after he departs from here, he should be agreeable to it. Other things like the bonehead passes will take time. You work on that, too. But I think you focus on checkdown throws and making them as consistent and boring as possible. The result won't be. Think Kill Bill, where the bride has to practice, repeatedly, punching a board three inches in front of her chest.





I want Jimmy waking up in the middle of the f**king night throwing checkdowns. I want him moving so fast in the middle of his sleep that he knocks the pornstar out of bed because he thought it was Aaron Donald coming to rearrange his manhood.

Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

Madness and brilliance are sides of a coin, my man.

Originally posted by fropwns:
Madness and brilliance are sides of a coin, my man.

JG as two face meme goes here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by fropwns:
Madness and brilliance are sides of a coin, my man.

JG as two face meme goes here

Indeed.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Biggest think to take away from Warners video is Jimmy can't read defenses well. If you know your line is slanting and free blitzes are likely coming pre snap you have to get off the side with the multiple receivers and look toward the hot route from the runningback.

Why does the 3 receiver side need a hot? That should be ignored once you confirm the full blitz is coming.

Same thing on the McCaffrey hot play. When you see there's an unblocked guy and he's coming change to looking toward your outlet in flat.

Funny thing is he started doing that in 2nd half because I have no doubt Kyle told him at halftime to look at the hots on blitzes.

Kurt Warnes is a good example of a guy who failed and failed and failed until he finally received good coaching.

As to your take on Warner's analysis, I guess I was watching a different Kurt Warner video. If you would, link me to the one you watched and I'll take a look.

So Jimmy isn't great bc of coaching?

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Biggest think to take away from Warners video is Jimmy can't read defenses well. If you know your line is slanting and free blitzes are likely coming pre snap you have to get off the side with the multiple receivers and look toward the hot route from the runningback.

Why does the 3 receiver side need a hot? That should be ignored once you confirm the full blitz is coming.

Same thing on the McCaffrey hot play. When you see there's an unblocked guy and he's coming change to looking toward your outlet in flat.

Funny thing is he started doing that in 2nd half because I have no doubt Kyle told him at halftime to look at the hots on blitzes.

Kurt Warnes is a good example of a guy who failed and failed and failed until he finally received good coaching.

As to your take on Warner's analysis, I guess I was watching a different Kurt Warner video. If you would, link me to the one you watched and I'll take a look.

Originally posted by Gore:
So Jimmy isn't great bc of coaching?

Jimmy not being able to make the same play he made 3 years ago to win a game is apparently the coaches fault yes.

Originally posted by eastie:
Interesting that one must do it over and over again to attain perfection, while doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

Except that in order to attain perfection you are not doing the same thing over and over again...that would be insane.

As to your point, this is something that perhaps Kyle is struggling with. He seems to do similar things, get similar results, and then do them again. Which would be fine if said results were positive. But, as of late, they have been anything but. We will see how he adapts over the next few weeks. I believe the 49ers should have no issue going 3-0. But all three of their opponents have more than enough talent to beat the 49ers.

Going to be rough here if the team somehow manages to go 0-3.