49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

We still want this because we have no choice but to still want this.

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:

He is the coach I wanted and still want. I just wish he was more of a disciplinarian with the penalties we keep committing.

I don't know man. The penalites are just a weird thing. I just don't think guys commit less penalites because they are scared. I just don't know how a coach yelling and screaming is gonna stop a guy from holding or false starts. All these guy know you can't do that....it just happens. I think for an offense the sort of thing that can be put on a staff is motion and shifting. Fortunately those penalites have been cleaned up since the preseason.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
this was the coach you wanted Rascal.

So?

That doesn't mean I have to be 100% satisfactory with his progress plus Lynch for that matter.

This isn't primary school, oh I have to protect my position cos I picked him.

I call it the way I see it. I would be dishonest if I were to say he is doing a stellar job.

When Shanahan became the HC, I set a benchmark of expectations for this team and I will state it again:

• Year 1 - 4 wins
• Year 2 - 6 wins
• Year 3 - 9 wins
• Year 4 - Playoffs

I don't think I am being unreasonable and many people agree with my benchmark.

Originally posted by Follower:

I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.

Lol most of you didn't even know who McVay was 1 year ago

Originally posted by tjd808185:
This is about the 3rd year straight were I heard we had an expansion team's worth of talent. I can't disagree with that but here's an idea bring in some talent then. Enough with the it's year 1 you can't spend in year 1.

The problem is, every time we bring in a new head coach (and especially a new GM) the picture changes. Each regime has their own vision in regards to how they want to approach the roster. Every time we fire someone, we have to start all over again. We can't really bring in more talent until a regime is given a full year to analyze things and then have an offseason to make changes.

We could go 1-15 this year and I would still want to keep Shanahan and Lynch. At some point you just have to sit back and let time do its thing.

Originally posted by Rascal:

So?

That doesn't mean I have to be 100% satisfactory with his progress plus Lynch for that matter.

This isn't primary school, oh I have to protect my position cos I picked him.

I call it the way I see it. I would be dishonest if I were to say he is doing a stellar job.

When Shanahan became the HC, I set a benchmark of expectations for this team and I will state it again:

• Year 1 - 4 wins
• Year 2 - 6 wins
• Year 3 - 9 wins
• Year 4 - Playoffs

I don't think I am being unreasonable and many people agree with my benchmark.

Which is fair. But if the team ends up with 3 wins this year but lost every game except Week 1 by 3-4 points would you really think it was so off from your 4 wins expectation?

That's what everyone is arguing over right now.


Still 11 games to go.

Originally posted by Niners816:

I don't know man. The penalites are just a weird thing. I just don't think guys commit less penalites because they are scared. I just don't know how a coach yelling and screaming is gonna stop a guy from holding or false starts. All these guy know you can't do that....it just happens. I think for an offense the sort of thing that can be put on a staff is motion and shifting. Fortunately those penalites have been cleaned up since the preseason.

Maybe if they ever simulated hard counts in practice, our players wouldn't be caught so off guard by it and jump offsides so often. How do I know they don't practice hard counts? Because our players keep falling for it.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by Follower:

I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.

Lol most of you didn't even know who McVay was 1 year ago

They know he didn't go to the niners....AND that's all that matters. Who are we kidding, it's probably Sus anyways.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by Follower:
I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.

Lol most of you didn't even know who McVay was 1 year ago

Yeah McVay is an inspiring figure but come on guys. Five games is not enough to determine who is better. One season isn't enough to determine who is better. Heck, a full year and a half should have been enough to tell us Kaepernick was the franchise QB... and it turns out that STILL wasn't enough time.

This league is based on the here and now, small moments, the up-and-down roller coaster... but you can't make final judgements until you have a bigger sample size and a larger picture.

Honestly until we get to the end of the decade I don't think we'll have enough to fully judge Shanahan and Lynch. And yes I would be saying that even if we were 5-0 right now.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by Follower:
I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.

Lol most of you didn't even know who McVay was 1 year ago

They know he didn't go to the niners....AND that's all that matters. Who are we kidding, it's probably Sus anyways.

I didn't hear about McVay until the coaching search began but I was in the "if we don't get Shanahan or McDaniels, I can live with McVay" crowd.

Originally posted by Rascal:
So?

That doesn't mean I have to be 100% satisfactory with his progress plus Lynch for that matter.

This isn't primary school, oh I have to protect my position cos I picked him.

I call it the way I see it. I would be dishonest if I were to say he is doing a stellar job.

When Shanahan became the HC, I set a benchmark of expectations for this team and I will state it again:

• Year 1 - 4 wins
• Year 2 - 6 wins
• Year 3 - 9 wins
• Year 4 - Playoffs

I don't think I am being unreasonable and many people agree with my benchmark.

Which is fair, but I don't think he's getting 4 wins this year. Just gotta call it for what it is. We look terrible.

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:

Maybe if they ever simulated hard counts in practice, our players wouldn't be caught so off guard by it and jump offsides so often. How do I know they don't practice hard counts? Because our players keep falling for it.

So the whole entire league doesn't do it? Players jump offsides in every game

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Their choice of players? Like they can just have whomever they wanted in FA lol...go look at most of the people they brought in and their contracts outside of garçon and smith they're all one yr deals.

This team wasn't made over in 6 months

Irrelevant.

Is very simple. They could do whatever they wanted plus they had all the resources. They chose to cut whoever they wanted to cut which was the bulk of the last roster and to bring in whoever they ended up bringing in.

This is the new Lynch and Shanahan roster.

And don't put words in my mouth, I never said the team would be built in 6 months.

But, they have to win more games than what Chip Kelly did.

Chip had no power on personnel and was at Baalke's disposal. He still won 2 games.

We still have 10 games to play and we better win more than 2 of them.

That is not unreasonable in my book. If you think is unreasonable then too bad.

Originally posted by Niners816:

So the whole entire league doesn't do it? Players jump offsides in every game

You think other teams do it as often as we do? If other teams commit as many penalties as we do, then how are we the most penalized team in the league?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

I didn't hear about McVay until the coaching search began but I was in the "if we don't get Shanahan or McDaniels, I can live with McVay" crowd.

I knew he was 31, OC for Washington and had WCO roots(that's kinda my thing). I like him, but the fawning over him is hilarious and I'm pretty positive it has everything to do with talking s**t about Kyle.