QB Candidates Thread: The Search for the QBoTF

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

I really believe Shanahan wants to either trade for Cousins or pick up an inexpensive bridge to next year and draft a QB after the first round. Then they would be able to go after Cousins next year and have a young developmental guy.

Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't want Romo to come here, we gotta worry about him staying healthy. I would much rather bring in Hoyer or Schaub.

I'd rather have Kap than Romo. At least we know Kap will make it a full season without a strong gust of wind coming through and shattering a rib.

We don't know that Kap will play a complete season either at this point. Just saying. He hasn't since 2014.

Fair point, but when was the last time Romo made it 16 games?

It was the same collar bone and they rushed him back....I would imagine with a year off it is healed.

Why do you think that? IIRC, he's had collarbone issues going back to 2010.

What makes you think that now it's healed for good?

Originally posted by mojave45:
He may end up being our least worst option in a bad situation.

Yup, basically right. In this QB market, he may still be the best of a bad bunch.

No doubt the 49ers are looking for a bridge starter to hold down the position for the QBoTF. Does Kap want to be in that position here? Even if he's awarded a clean slate, he saw what happened to Alex in 2012. He could be playing really well, but once the hand-picked QB is ready to go, you're out of town. If he re-signs here, he could be following in Alex' footsteps. Its probably something he has in the back of his mind.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by mojave45:

He may end up being our least worst option in a bad situation.

Yup, basically right. In this QB market, he may still be the best of a bad bunch.

No doubt the 49ers are looking for a bridge starter to hold down the position for the QBoTF. Does Kap want to be in that position here? Even if he's awarded a clean slate, he saw what happened to Alex in 2012. He could be playing really well, but once the hand-picked QB is ready to go, you're out of town. If he re-signs here, he could be following in Alex' footsteps. Its probably something he has in the back of his mind.

That would be in the back of my mind. But my earlier statement that he may be "our least worst option", goes both ways. We could be his. I truly don't believe many teams are going to be knocking down his door in a rush to take him.

Let us all move on from Kaep!!

Look here, the last few years he has been on the team he did more negative things and decisions which created worse situation to the 49ers already bad condition.

As the leader and QB of the team, he made personal choices, coupled with on-field performances that eventually made the 49ers experienced the lowest point of the franchise. Instead of focusing on winning and team sports, he highlighted his personal cause. If you are an employee of a huge business and you did all things on your own without considering the negative effects to your organization, you usually get fired! He used the 49ers (during a game) to further his cause which to me was the worst move! He was represented the 49ers at those times, not himself and his conduct reflected more toward the 49ers as an organization! If I was the owner of the 49ers and one of my employees just do things on his own without warning/notification to me and it could affect my organization in a negative way (against profitability and winning that is), then I will be real disappointed and may have to reconsider the individual's future employment with the 49ers. ''

It's no secret Kaep wants every team to know he will not kneel anymore during the national anthem, simply because he realized (he learned at this point from teams) no one would sign him with such intention going forward. He has shown he could be a leader thru leading by examples, but he failed to show the leadership style which majority of the people would appreciate and worth following, one in which the leader takes sacrifices for the good of the team, and for the fans.
Goodbye Kaep. Let us all end the bleeding, it's time for the 49ers to heal all battle wounds and move toward full and complete recovery!

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

I think what Shanahan meant was that we wouldn't get a short-term fix at QB. A bridge QB isn't a fix, its just a placeholder. Someone who will be competent while actively grooming the future starter to take over. I'm sure he'd love to get the franchise QB right off the bat, but sometimes thats not possible. They will explore all options and roll with the best one, but we can't force the issue and commit to a QB long-term if he's truly not the guy.

Romolicious is coming! Just kidding. All this free agency foo is quite entertaining.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

I think what Shanahan meant was that we wouldn't get a short-term fix at QB. A bridge QB isn't a fix, its just a placeholder. Someone who will be competent while actively grooming the future starter to take over. I'm sure he'd love to get the franchise QB right off the bat, but sometimes thats not possible. They will explore all options and roll with the best one, but we can't force the issue and commit to a QB long-term if he's truly not the guy.

Hoyer, Romo, Kaepernick, Taylor, Schaub, and Cutler would be bridge quarterbacks.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

I think what Shanahan meant was that we wouldn't get a short-term fix at QB. A bridge QB isn't a fix, its just a placeholder. Someone who will be competent while actively grooming the future starter to take over. I'm sure he'd love to get the franchise QB right off the bat, but sometimes thats not possible. They will explore all options and roll with the best one, but we can't force the issue and commit to a QB long-term if he's truly not the guy.

Hoyer, Romo, Kaepernick, Taylor, Schaub, and Cutler would be bridge quarterbacks.

I don't even know why this has to be explained... But good job you guys.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't want Romo to come here, we gotta worry about him staying healthy. I would much rather bring in Hoyer or Schaub.

I'd rather have Kap than Romo. At least we know Kap will make it a full season without a strong gust of wind coming through and shattering a rib.

We don't know that Kap will play a complete season either at this point. Just saying. He hasn't since 2014.

Fair point, but when was the last time Romo made it 16 games?

Just pointing out that depending on a guy purely because you assume he is more durable, when he hasn't been for a couple of years now, doesn't make sense to me. I know Romo's history. Good and bad. And Kap's . I don't think Romo is coming here. But if he did I would certainly rather have him as a bridge than Kap.

But he certainly has been more durable than Romo. Also, Kap's playoff record >>>> Romo's and it's not even close despite Romo having far better weapons. I agree that it's time for Kap to go, but replacing him with Romo is a step backwards IMO. All we'd be getting is a guy who posts great numbers in games that don't count and one who is a stern glare away from another year on IR.

Hard pass.

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

I wouldn't want Romo to come here, we gotta worry about him staying healthy. I would much rather bring in Hoyer or Schaub.

I'd rather have Kap than Romo. At least we know Kap will make it a full season without a strong gust of wind coming through and shattering a rib.

We don't know that Kap will play a complete season either at this point. Just saying. He hasn't since 2014.

Fair point, but when was the last time Romo made it 16 games?

Just pointing out that depending on a guy purely because you assume he is more durable, when he hasn't been for a couple of years now, doesn't make sense to me. I know Romo's history. Good and bad. And Kap's . I don't think Romo is coming here. But if he did I would certainly rather have him as a bridge than Kap.

But he certainly has been more durable than Romo. Also, Kap's playoff record >>>> Romo's and it's not even close despite Romo having far better weapons. I agree that it's time for Kap to go, but replacing him with Romo is a step backwards IMO. All we'd be getting is a guy who posts great numbers in games that don't count and one who is a stern glare away from another year on IR.

Hard pass.

Not that I matters. He won't be here. Hopefully they are both somewhere else.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

We can call it anything we want--no GM or HC is going to call a bridge QB a bridge QB...just not polite. I believe the bridge QB will be a guy who can help in TC with or without expectations of starting. If I were them I'd be looking at young backup QBs around the league, Cousins and Garoppolo, and draft picks...along with guys who had played in Shanahan's system. In other words...covering the bases.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Shanahan said they wouldn't get a bridge qb. I think it's more likely they get a backup whose ceiling has yet to be determined, such as A J McCarron or even Mike Glennon. If he does well, Cousins' salary might not look very attractive, but at the very least he'd look better under Kyle to make him tradeable if we needed to dump his salary or just keep him as a good backup.

Quarterback is a bit trial and error. Don't waste a trial.

We can call it anything we want--no GM or HC is going to call a bridge QB a bridge QB...just not polite. I believe the bridge QB will be a guy who can help in TC with or without expectations of starting. If I were them I'd be looking at young backup QBs around the league, Cousins and Garoppolo, and draft picks...along with guys who had played in Shanahan's system. In other words...covering the bases.

I think we're trying to define the term with too fine a pencil. To me, a bridge qb is anybody you know going in is not going to take you to Lombardi 6, for whatever reason. I don't think we should waste a roster spot, even a drafted rookie, on that.

Originally posted by English:
Yep. I am planning n going for whatever Lynch does this year, unless it is gob-smackingly stupid. On the basis that right now there are a number of options open to us and Shanahan knows more about qb's than I do. I took the same approach with Nolan and with Harbaugh/Baalke so I am hoping for 3rd time lucky!

gob smacking stupid may refer to ck.my words , not his.. hey i would be ok with romo,, gotta fix up the o line though, we could do much worse than romo in my opinion

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't want Romo to come here, we gotta worry about him staying healthy. I would much rather bring in Hoyer or Schaub.

oh , i agree ten fold,, i was just saying,, if we fix up the line and have a good running game. it would not be tragic to have romo land here