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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Steve Busichio's team needs:

1a. Cornerback
1B. Edge Rusher
2. Guard
3. Wide Receiver
4. Running Back
5. Middle linebacker
6. Left Tackle

So he thinks we are set at Center? lol

LOL...I guess so.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Steve Busichio's team needs:

1a. Cornerback
1B. Edge Rusher
2. Guard
3. Wide Receiver
4. Running Back
5. Middle linebacker
6. Left Tackle

So he thinks we are set at Center? lol

LOL...I guess so.

I think until we get a major upgrade over Kilgore, this whole O-Line is in trouble.
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I think until we get a major upgrade over Kilgore, this whole O-Line is in trouble.

Not too many would argue that!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Steve Busichio's team needs:

1a. Cornerback
1B. Edge Rusher
2. Guard
3. Wide Receiver
4. Running Back
5. Middle linebacker
6. Left Tackle

So he thinks we are set at Center? lol

LOL...I guess so.

I'm not a fan of this list! Pass rush is the single biggest missing ingredient on this team now that QB has been addressed. Once you have a stable roster you go looking for that monster QB killer...ala Haley or Dean. One thing I would look for is a guy who jumps off the video every time you see one of his games--Roquan Smith is perhaps the most influential player on a great team. Barkley is my next greatest play maker and then......Nelson?

Edit: and an upgrade at center is a huge need! I'd prefer a FA and then a OG in the draft who can play both...maybe in the 3rd?
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Jan 10, 2018 at 9:47 AM ]
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Steve Busichio's team needs:

1a. Cornerback
1B. Edge Rusher
2. Guard
3. Wide Receiver
4. Running Back
5. Middle linebacker
6. Left Tackle

So he thinks we are set at Center? lol

LOL...I guess so.

I'm not a fan of this list! Pass rush is the single biggest missing ingredient on this team now that QB has been addressed. Once you have a stable roster you go looking for that monster QB killer...ala Haley or Dean. One thing I would look for is a guy who jumps off the video every time you see one of his games--Roquan Smith is perhaps the most influential player on a great team. Barkley is my next greatest play maker and then......Nelson?

Edit: and an upgrade at center is a huge need! I'd prefer a FA and then a OG in the draft who can play both...maybe in the 3rd?

I hear that. It sounds like it's a pretty bad year to want a 3-down LEO in FA or the draft. More like 3rd down specialists you hope can grow into an every down LEO. What do you think?
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 10, 2018 at 11:27 AM ]
Protect the package is the #1 need. Pass rusher is next. I would throw a couple darts at the pass rusher board. Then cb. I think cb should be our top FA priority
Originally posted by teylo31:
Protect the package is the #1 need. Pass rusher is next. I would throw a couple darts at the pass rusher board. Then cb. I think cb should be our top FA priority

Agreed. Protecting the franchise QB is #1 priority. I think we can get Center in FA, we got Garnett coming back, along with Staley & Brown at tackles. We can also pick up other guys in FA to compete on the offensive line that Shanahan deems necessary
Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear that. It sounds like it's a pretty bad year to want a 3-down LEO in FA or the draft. More like 3rd down specialists you hope can grow into an every down LEO. What do you think?

It's so hard to project pass rushers and this is a down year. That comes up to--draft one, sign one...create one out of your spare parts! Most important position after QB so...imperative! I don't like to use labels on defensive front seven, but rather find special players and turn them loose. Lot of coaches thought Walsh was crazy for picking up Dean...until he turned out to have one redeeming quality--attacking QBs.
CB: I'm for a FA vet here given we have a very young secondary who could use some vet leadership given the strong possibility of Reid's role being diminished on the field and in the locker room.


Malcolm Butler and Jimmy G would be a cool reunion
Originally posted by RD_Town:
CB: I'm for a FA vet here given we have a very young secondary who could use some vet leadership given the strong possibility of Reid's role being diminished on the field and in the locker room.

Malcolm Butler and Jimmy G would be a cool reunion

Yeah, my favorite is Kyle Fuller and Trumaine Johnson.
This is why C and G are so crucial to Kyle's offense esp. now that we have a FQB.


While Jimmy GQ made the most of all these QB pressures, it started f**king with his mechanics. Give this man a clean pocket and his mechanics and accuracy are flawless and he'll find the receiver no matter who that receiver is.

Otherwise, he's throwing off his back foot, taking hits, forced to throw from 20 different angles, etc.

He's still a young QB and the last thing you want is him developing no trust in his pocket and learning bad habits. Those are hard to undue.

My list of top needs go like this given you can't fill all your needs in one off season:

C - this absolutely is priority #1 both in the draft and in FA. Kilgore = depth and push-starter only. You do everything to protect your FQB and he'll make all your skill positions better.
G - this C-rule applies here too. Tomlinson/Fusco. = depth and push-starters only. This will be a priority in the draft and FA.
CB - this is a priority because outside of Witherspoon and Williams, we have nobody. This will be a priority in the draft and FA.
OT - here you go scheme fit, brains and development hoping a rookie can grow into a starting role but for now, be the #2 swing T. We will need to sign another Gary Gilliam in FA again.
ER - unless Chubb falls to us or we move up to get him, there is no 3-down LEO and FA is slim pickings. Therefore, look to round 3+ for a 3rd down edge rusher to rotate with Marsh and Dumervil. Saleh will go his usual "big personnel" on 1st and 2nd downs and we'll hover around 30-35 for team sacks but still be an effective mid-level defense.
ILB - for now, Saleh will lean on Harold, Foster and M.Smith with depth in Coyle, Lee and Nzeocha and a raw rookie with upside and great speed.
ZWR - there are some big-bodied developmental ZWR's in this draft who can play an immediate RZ role and potentially grow into more.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 28, 2018 at 8:12 AM ]
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Originally posted by NCommand:
This is why C and G are so crucial to Kyle's offense esp. now that we have a FQB.


While Jimmy GQ made the most of all these QB pressures, it started f**king with his mechanics. Give this man a clean pocket and his mechanics and accuracy are flawless and he'll find the receiver no matter who that receiver is.

Otherwise, he's throwing off his back foot, taking hits, forced to throw from 20 different angles, etc.

He's still a young QB and the last thing you want is him developing no trust in his pocket and learning bad habits. Those are hard to undue.

My list of top needs go like this given you can't fill all your needs in one off season:

C - this absolutely is priority #1 both in the draft and in FA. Kilgore = depth and push-starter only. You do everything to protect your FQB and he'll make all your skill positions better.
G - this C-rule applies here too. Tomlinson/Fusco. = depth and push-starters only.
CB - this is a priority because outside of Witherspoon and Williams, we have nobody. This will be a priority in the draft and FA.
OT - here you go scheme fit, brains and development hoping a rookie can grow into a starting role but for now, be the #2 swing T. We will need to sign another Gary Gilliam in FA again.
ER - unless Chubb falls to us or we move up to get him, there is no 3-down LEO and FA is slim pickings. Therefore, look to round 3+ for a 3rd down edge rusher to rotate with Marsh and Dumervil. Saleh will go his usual "big personnel" on 1st and 2nd downs and we'll hover around 30-35 for team sacks but still be an effective mid-level defense.
ILB - for now, Saleh will lean on Harold, Foster and M.Smith with depth in Coyle, Lee and Nzeocha and a raw rookie with upside and great speed.
ZWR - there are some big-bodied developmental ZWR's in this draft who can play an immediate RZ role and potentially grow into more.

I totally agree. Have you identified a C or G that should be perused in FA or the draft?
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the good ol days
Originally posted by Andra:
I totally agree. Have you identified a C or G that should be perused in FA or the draft?

The smart $ would be on resigning a few of your own in Fusco, Kilgore & Gilliam for scheme continuity. Then in free agency, it's all about upgrading those starting positions. Sign a player like Ryan Jensen for C and Andrew Norwell for G. The draft is really deep on the interior OL so ideally, the first OL you draft is a T who can start at G for a couple years. You have Joshua Garnett coming back to add to the interior competition.

Early Starters: Staley - Garnett - Jensen - Norwell - Brown
Veteran depth: Gilliam - Kilgore - Magnuson - Fusco
Rookies: Will Hernandez & Alex Cappa

9 make the team. The two rookies have a chance to move up the ladder quickly.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 28, 2018 at 8:42 AM ]
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