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Here's my 2018 Free Agent Plan:

Centers:
Plan A: Sign Ryan Jensen to a 4-year, $9-9.5M annual contract. We can go up to $10M if needed. Brandon Linder is the highest paid at $10.3M and graded out at 84.7 (#4 C) and Jensen is rated as #9 right now. Erik Magnuson backs up and explore Daniel Kilgore as possible depth as well.

Plan B: Sign John Sullivan to a 3-year, $9M annual contract. We draft a top C to groom behind him. Sullivan already knows the system and can expect to get better while also weakening LAR significantly.

Plan C: Explore Matt Paradis as a RFA. Resign Daniel Kilgore to a lower-level starting 2-year contract and he can compete with a rookie C.

Guards:
Plan A and B: Sign Andrew Norwell to a 4-year, $12-13M annual contract. We can go up to $14M if needed. We go all-in. Kevin Zeitler is the highest paid and graded out at 81.1 (#11 G) and Andrew Norwell is rated as #3 right now. In addition to signing Andrew Norwell, we should lock down our own, Brandon Fusco on a 2-year contract worth $6-7M annually to compete with Joshua Garnett who will be on his rookie contract and has a 5th year option.

Cornerbacks:
Plan A: There are a ton of CB's available in FA! Outside CB's in RCB's: Kyle Fuller, Travis Carrie & E.J. Gaines, and LCB's: Trumaine Johnson, Prince Amukamara, Malcolm Butler, Bashaud Breeland, Rashaan Melvin and
NCB's in Aaron Colvin, Nickell Robey-Coleman & Ross Cockrell.

All had played at least 600 snaps last year with a 74-86 PFF grade and are 6' or taller (save for Nickell Robey-Coleman) and all are between 26-28 years old (Prince is 29).

Note: Rashaan Melvin started roughly 600 snaps before going on I.R. with a hand but he is 6'2" 194 pounds and graded out the highest at 85.7 per PFF. Travis Carrie beat out Sean Smith and played over 1,000 snaps grading out at 84.3. He's 5'11" 212. We play a mixture of off and press man. For reference, our own Ahkello Witherspoon played 660 snaps at 81.1.

Overall: Shoring up the interior OL and nailing down a premier outside CB and another NCB would leave us in prime position to address ER and WR in the draft and free agency, if still needed.

There would still be tons of cap space left to work with here too. Even at most, that's $39M for a premier G, C and outside CB. Throw in another starting G and top NCB, that's another $14M or only $53M of the $115M we have before cutting players like Jimmie Ward at $8.5M. We could easily add Ansah and a top WR as well in FA leaving the draft wide open and plenty of cap space to add Jimmy GQ to a long term deal.


Feel free to note any errors or clarifications or players I missed in this pool.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 30, 2018 at 9:59 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Here's my 2018 Free Agent Plan:

Centers:
Plan A: Sign Ryan Jensen to a 4-year, $9-9.5M annual contract. We can go up to $10M if needed. Brandon Linder is the highest paid at $10.3M and graded out at 84.7 (#4 C) and Jensen is rated as #9 right now. Erik Magnuson backs up and explore Daniel Kilgore as possible depth as well.

Plan B: Sign John Sullivan to a 3-year, $9M annual contract. We draft a top C to groom behind him. Sullivan already knows the system and can expect to get better while also weakening LAR significantly.

Plan C: Explore Matt Paradis as a RFA. Resign Daniel Kilgore to a lower-level starting 2-year contract and he can compete with a rookie C.

Guards:
Plan A and B: Sign Andrew Norwell to a 4-year, $12-13M annual contract. We can go up to $14M if needed. We go all-in. Kevin Zeitler is the highest paid and graded out at 81.1 (#11 G) and Andrew Norwell is rated as #3 right now. In addition to signing Andrew Norwell, we should lock down our own, Brandon Fusco on a 2-year contract worth $6-7M annually to compete with Joshua Garnett who will be on his rookie contract and has a 5th year option.

Cornerbacks:
Plan A: There are a ton of CB's available in FA! Outside CB's in RCB's: Kyle Fuller, Travis Carrie & E.J. Gaines, and LCB's: Trumaine Johnson, Prince Amukamara, Malcolm Butler, Bashaud Breeland, Rashaan Melvin and
NCB's in Aaron Colvin, Nickell Robey-Coleman & Ross Cockrell.

All had played at least 600 snaps last year with a 74-86 PFF grade and are 6' or taller (save for Nickell Robey-Coleman) and all are between 26-28 years old (Prince is 29).

Note: Rashaan Melvin started roughly 600 snaps before going on I.R. with a hand but he is 6'2" 194 pounds and graded out the highest at 85.7 per PFF. Travis Carrie beat out Sean Smith and played over 1,000 snaps grading out at 84.3. He's 5'11" 212. We play a mixture of off and press man. For reference, our own Ahkello Witherspoon played 660 snaps at 81.1.

Overall: Shoring up the interior OL and nailing down a premier outside CB and another NCB would leave us in prime position to address ER and WR in the draft and free agency, if still needed.

There would still be tons of cap space left to work with here too. Even at most, that's $39M for a premier G, C and outside CB. Throw in another starting G and top NCB, that's another $14M or only $53M of the $115M we have before cutting players like Jimmie Ward at $8.5M. We could easily add Ansah and a top WR as well in FA leaving the draft wide open and plenty of cap space to add Jimmy GQ to a long term deal.


Feel free to note any errors or clarifications or players I missed in this pool.

Nice job there big daddy. May the force be with us.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Nice job there big daddy. May the force be with us.

Now you can take the SAM, LEO, MIKE/WILL and WR/TE.

Get to work son!
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 30, 2018 at 2:37 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Nice job there big daddy. May the force be with us.

Now you can take the SAM, LEO, MIKE/WILL and WR/TE.

Get to work son!

Your bald son is taking a dump, drinking coffee about to shave and shower for work. You know the smoke-dog does his work after 1030pm
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Jan 30, 2018 at 4:02 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Here's my 2018 Free Agent Plan:

Centers:
Plan A: Sign Ryan Jensen to a 4-year, $9-9.5M annual contract. We can go up to $10M if needed. Brandon Linder is the highest paid at $10.3M and graded out at 84.7 (#4 C) and Jensen is rated as #9 right now. Erik Magnuson backs up and explore Daniel Kilgore as possible depth as well.

Plan B: Sign John Sullivan to a 3-year, $9M annual contract. We draft a top C to groom behind him. Sullivan already knows the system and can expect to get better while also weakening LAR significantly.

Plan C: Explore Matt Paradis as a RFA. Resign Daniel Kilgore to a lower-level starting 2-year contract and he can compete with a rookie C.

Guards:
Plan A and B: Sign Andrew Norwell to a 4-year, $12-13M annual contract. We can go up to $14M if needed. We go all-in. Kevin Zeitler is the highest paid and graded out at 81.1 (#11 G) and Andrew Norwell is rated as #3 right now. In addition to signing Andrew Norwell, we should lock down our own, Brandon Fusco on a 2-year contract worth $6-7M annually to compete with Joshua Garnett who will be on his rookie contract and has a 5th year option.

Cornerbacks:
Plan A: There are a ton of CB's available in FA! Outside CB's in RCB's: Kyle Fuller, Travis Carrie & E.J. Gaines, and LCB's: Trumaine Johnson, Prince Amukamara, Malcolm Butler, Bashaud Breeland, Rashaan Melvin and
NCB's in Aaron Colvin, Nickell Robey-Coleman & Ross Cockrell.

All had played at least 600 snaps last year with a 74-86 PFF grade and are 6' or taller (save for Nickell Robey-Coleman) and all are between 26-28 years old (Prince is 29).

Note: Rashaan Melvin started roughly 600 snaps before going on I.R. with a hand but he is 6'2" 194 pounds and graded out the highest at 85.7 per PFF. Travis Carrie beat out Sean Smith and played over 1,000 snaps grading out at 84.3. He's 5'11" 212. We play a mixture of off and press man. For reference, our own Ahkello Witherspoon played 660 snaps at 81.1.

Overall: Shoring up the interior OL and nailing down a premier outside CB and another NCB would leave us in prime position to address ER and WR in the draft and free agency, if still needed.

There would still be tons of cap space left to work with here too. Even at most, that's $39M for a premier G, C and outside CB. Throw in another starting G and top NCB, that's another $14M or only $53M of the $115M we have before cutting players like Jimmie Ward at $8.5M. We could easily add Ansah and a top WR as well in FA leaving the draft wide open and plenty of cap space to add Jimmy GQ to a long term deal.

Feel free to note any errors or clarifications or players I missed in this pool.

I know the OL supply is light but it seems to me like your prices for C/G's are a little steep. I don't think Sullivan/Jensen will get quite that much and Fusco will probably get a raise from last year but that's pretty steep for what looked like an average season from the naked eye. Also, I don't see us paying $12-14 mill for a Guard esp with this scheme and what we ask our Guards to do.

We'll definitely upgrade at C with Kilgore potentially getting signed thereafter, and we'll probably bring in another Guard on top of Fusco. Our other money will go to CB/LEO but the need for OG/C you're suggesting I think is a little over exaggerated.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Your bald son is taking a dump, drinking coffee about to shave and shower for work. You know the smoke-dog does his work after 1030pm

Oh I know, my man, I know!
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
I know the OL supply is light but it seems to me like your prices for C/G's are a little steep. I don't think Sullivan/Jensen will get quite that much and Fusco will probably get a raise from last year but that's pretty steep for what looked like an average season from the naked eye. Also, I don't see us paying $12-14 mill for a Guard esp with this scheme and what we ask our Guards to do.

We'll definitely upgrade at C with Kilgore potentially getting signed thereafter, and we'll probably bring in another Guard on top of Fusco. Our other money will go to CB/LEO but the need for OG/C you're suggesting I think is a little over exaggerated.

Yeah, I noted the highest paid C and G today for reference but both may not eclipse that...if they do it's because of a bidding war; one we could win easily. Norwell has the best chance to match or set the highest mark annually. I merely suggested the highest marks for a reference point/conservative stance.

The interior line play is crucial to Kyle's system and even more so now that we have a FQB but like you noted, while there aren't many veterans on the FA market, there are other ways to go about improving the interior.

PS: Fusco did have an average year, hence the average contract offer.

Who do you have in mind for CB and LEO --- love the FA market for CB and NCB!
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
I know the OL supply is light but it seems to me like your prices for C/G's are a little steep. I don't think Sullivan/Jensen will get quite that much and Fusco will probably get a raise from last year but that's pretty steep for what looked like an average season from the naked eye. Also, I don't see us paying $12-14 mill for a Guard esp with this scheme and what we ask our Guards to do.

We'll definitely upgrade at C with Kilgore potentially getting signed thereafter, and we'll probably bring in another Guard on top of Fusco. Our other money will go to CB/LEO but the need for OG/C you're suggesting I think is a little over exaggerated.

Actually, Jensen will get more than 9.5 million dollar contract. I would be shocked if he gets less than 10 million. I think his other numbers were correct. And actually, these are the positions that I would wnat to attack in FA. They should trade for a pass rusher and draft another one in the early parts of the draft. I hope they can franchise reid and trade him for an outside linebacker.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
I know the OL supply is light but it seems to me like your prices for C/G's are a little steep. I don't think Sullivan/Jensen will get quite that much and Fusco will probably get a raise from last year but that's pretty steep for what looked like an average season from the naked eye. Also, I don't see us paying $12-14 mill for a Guard esp with this scheme and what we ask our Guards to do.

We'll definitely upgrade at C with Kilgore potentially getting signed thereafter, and we'll probably bring in another Guard on top of Fusco. Our other money will go to CB/LEO but the need for OG/C you're suggesting I think is a little over exaggerated.

Yeah, I noted the highest paid C and G today for reference but both may not eclipse that...if they do it's because of a bidding war; one we could win easily. Norwell has the best chance to match or set the highest mark annually. I merely suggested the highest marks for a reference point/conservative stance.

The interior line play is crucial to Kyle's system and even more so now that we have a FQB but like you noted, while there aren't many veterans on the FA market, there are other ways to go about improving the interior.

PS: Fusco did have an average year, hence the average contract offer.

Who do you have in mind for CB and LEO --- love the FA market for CB and NCB!

That type of money puts Fusco Top 30 at his position... I don't know.

To answer your question..

CB: Trumaine Johnson, Bashaud Breeland, Kyle Fuller, Rashaan Melvin, Vontae Davis
LEO: Ansah, Shaquil Barrett (RFA); Demarcus Lawrence will get franchised
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Actually, Jensen will get more than 9.5 million dollar contract. I would be shocked if he gets less than 10 million. I think his other numbers were correct. And actually, these are the positions that I would wnat to attack in FA. They should trade for a pass rusher and draft another one in the early parts of the draft. I hope they can franchise reid and trade him for an outside linebacker.



That's an interesting strategy. Top 5 S's would put him at close to $12M. No biggie if you drop Ward's $8.5M.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
I know the OL supply is light but it seems to me like your prices for C/G's are a little steep. I don't think Sullivan/Jensen will get quite that much and Fusco will probably get a raise from last year but that's pretty steep for what looked like an average season from the naked eye. Also, I don't see us paying $12-14 mill for a Guard esp with this scheme and what we ask our Guards to do.

We'll definitely upgrade at C with Kilgore potentially getting signed thereafter, and we'll probably bring in another Guard on top of Fusco. Our other money will go to CB/LEO but the need for OG/C you're suggesting I think is a little over exaggerated.

Actually, Jensen will get more than 9.5 million dollar contract. I would be shocked if he gets less than 10 million. I think his other numbers were correct. And actually, these are the positions that I would wnat to attack in FA. They should trade for a pass rusher and draft another one in the early parts of the draft. I hope they can franchise reid and trade him for an outside linebacker.

You think he'll be the highest paid C in the league? Maybe, but nothing suggesting that would be the case.

Spotrac is projecting his salary to be just under 9 mill/year: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/ryan-jensen-12485/market-value/
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
That type of money puts Fusco Top 30 at his position... I don't know.

To answer your question..

CB: Trumaine Johnson, Bashaud Breeland, Kyle Fuller, Rashaan Melvin, Vontae Davis
LEO: Ansah, Shaquil Barrett (RFA); Demarcus Lawrence will get franchised

Fusco was rated as the #21 G this last season and he's second best on the market so we have to factor those points in too.

Good choices regarding CB's. There's a couple gems in there that are under the radar if we don't want to get in a big bidding war too!
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
You think he'll be the highest paid C in the league? Maybe, but nothing suggesting that would be the case.

Spotrac is projecting his salary to be just under 9 mill/year: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/ryan-jensen-12485/market-value/

$9-9.5M was my original guesstimate but some of that is because there aren't many C's on the market either; even worse for guards.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
That type of money puts Fusco Top 30 at his position... I don't know.

To answer your question..

CB: Trumaine Johnson, Bashaud Breeland, Kyle Fuller, Rashaan Melvin, Vontae Davis
LEO: Ansah, Shaquil Barrett (RFA); Demarcus Lawrence will get franchised

Fusco was rated as the #21 G this last season and he's second best on the market so we have to factor those points in too.

Good choices regarding CB's. There's a couple gems in there that are under the radar if we don't want to get in a big bidding war too!

Thank you.. Starting to think that we will try and find a value starter in FA at CB and double dip in the draft early to compete at both spots.

Fusco may get that much but tend to think we would like to upgrade or spend our money somewhere else for that kind of money. Can't depend on Garnett entirely but he's coming back, and the draft has some decent options at the position. Knowing Shanahan and what he's done in the past, thinking he would rather pay a bit more for a C than G.
We're carrying over $56,048,430, and have $113,515,166 with a $178M cap + Carryover.

Eli Harold and Trent Brown's base salaries escalated for 2018.
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