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Plus sometimes, you don't know, they maybe eyeing a player, but the board didn't fall there way and the player they wanted got swooped out under them. That is the only you will never here another teams talk about to the press we wanted this player but so and so stole him from us-at least not publicly, until they retire.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
That's the damn problem; they really don't go bpa. I wasn't a fan of the Stribling pick, but he looks promising. It's still frustrating the reason they drafted him is because their other WR didn't work out. We can all nitpick every angle, but end of the day they simply need to draft better, especially with the higher rounds.

I was "okay" with the stribling pick after the trade downs.

BA didn't work out because he's a nut job, not because he can't ball. Ricky just can't stay healthy, he's pretty damn good when he plays. Overall I think they can evaluate the WR position pretty well.

overall I just think the coaches have too much of a say on who the picks will be….I mean maybe it's like that elsewhere, but we basically gave Saleh carte blanche on the 2025 draft and he was here for a year.

I agree, but also admit I don't know how much say coaches have vs scouts and vs league norms. It's fair discussion though. Injuries and mental health certainly aren't a direct negative on their drafting, it's just insanely bad luck, but ultimately counts as a miss. When I saw the news about Collins I just laughed. What else can we do at this point?
Guys like Ricky P, how would his trajectory be if had not gone to the park and got shot? Would he be this injured?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I agree, but also admit I don't know how much say coaches have vs scouts and vs league norms. It's fair discussion though. Injuries and mental health certainly aren't a direct negative on their drafting, it's just insanely bad luck, but ultimately counts as a miss. When I saw the news about Collins I just laughed. What else can we do at this point?

Collins problem started when he held out for a long time before signing. At the end of the season he showed good progress. I would have to ask what was conditioning regiment during the off season.
A lot of teams can hit in the later rounds. Rams Puka- Raiders Crosby.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd be really curious how most teams draft process works, between the scouts/coaches/front office etc. With us, it seems to me like the coaches have a huge say in who gets drafted.

For example, Our LB coach with Dugger. I wonder if the process was that a scout loved dugger and some other guys, then showed the position coach, then they lobbied for them with the front office. or is it just the coaches look over players and find the ones they "love" and they push that, then the front office takes that into account and the scout report?

Idk, but i've said it for years - it's odd we typically draft really well in the late rounds but poorly in the first 3 rounds (Super hit or miss with players). that is statistically wild over a 10 year period. I'd love to know what they do different with their process from the first few rounds to the second part. If they do anything different at all, idk.

I get that most draft picks across the league will suck or not make it, every team misses on most of their picks, but I find the niners turnouts to be so odd.

Yeah it would be interesting to see how it all goes down on another team…this is just a total guess but we seem to throw BPA in the trash the first 3 rds. Heavily geared towards need and positional value. Like they would draft the 9th ranked DE over the 3rd ranked IOL. I think as you go into day 3 of the draft we're not seeing as much reaching and it's more BPA…shocking the results equal more hits, even if most of those hits aren't at premium positions most times.

BPA is different for every team, though. No team is using media created BPA lists. So there's zero way to know whether they disregard BPA or not, because nobody but they know who they consider BPA.
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