John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

Exactly.

For some reason fans think that finishing 2nd place means something. Like a participation medal.

At the end of the day there is one SB winner defending the title and 31 other teams trying to take it.

I honestly could care less about making it to the SB and losing. And I guarantee the players feel the same way too.

The SB is the goal of every team each year.. Only one wins each year so there are a lot of disappointed fans. The Niners have won more than their share. The Pats are 6-6, the Steelers are 6-2. The Niners and Cowboys are next at 5-3. That's way better than most teams.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
Trading for Garoppolo instead waiting and pursuing K. Cousins in FA sent this regime and franchise into alternative universe. Sort of like being in the Twilight Zone. Someone f**ked it up, who I don't know.

LMAO, if Kirk Cousins was that good or great of a QB, why hasn't he done jack? He had a pretty good Vikings team(s) and didn't get to a SB.

See Matt Stafford….and you can laugh your ass off all you want….that's my opinion on what Shanahan wanted and I believe it no matter what smartass "LMAO" comments you post

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

lol.

Anybody who would rather never make the playoffs than make it to the Super Bowl
are not real fans. They're trolls who don't know basic arithmetic.

Are the Denver Broncos a negative franchise because they've lost more Super Bowls than they've won?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

Exactly.

For some reason fans think that finishing 2nd place means something. Like a participation medal.

At the end of the day there is one SB winner defending the title and 31 other teams trying to take it.

I honestly could care less about making it to the SB and losing. And I guarantee the players feel the same way too.

Sounds like you willfully missed my point. Again.

You can say losing the Super Bowl means nothing. That's fine. I'm referring to people who think losing the Super Bowl is WORSE than missing the playoffs. It literally doesn't make a lick of sense. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as a "shadow Lombardi trophy" that literally cancels out another Lombardi trophy. It's a level of thinking that is so illogical I don't even know where to begin.

Do you really think Patriots fans are kicking themselves right now wishing they lost in round 1 of the playoffs? Or do you think they simply wish they won the Super Bowl? The latter is what I would expect. Not the former.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch has a home Super Bowl and gets rid of half the roster and doesn't make any significant moves to push us over the top and we watch the Seahawks win the SB in our stadium.

Snead has a home Super Bowl and adds the best player in the game.

It would be nice to have a competent GM.

This is what pisses me off about John Lynch and his consultants. I was pounding the table to go all in due to a Super Bowl at home and he just sat back and said it didn't fit into the teams plans (or something of the sort). Imagine if they traded a 2nd for Quinnen Williams and a 3rd for Jaelan Phillips last season like Dallas and Philly did, where would the 9ers have been? Sure it was a 2026 2nd round and 2027 1st round picks for Williams but they would have held on to their 2026 1st round pick.

Where? Watching Seattle win the SB in our own stadium but without a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick.

Also brushing off Dallas throwing in a first round pick in what is considered by virtually everyone to be a SUBSTANTIALLY stronger draft class in 2027 and a player on top of it as an afterthought it something.

You're better than that man. 49ers 100% made the right decision not to go for those trades. What do you think they help us do last year? Lose 23 to 6 instead?

Who knows if the 9ers would've won or loss that game if they went all-in. One thing for sure is that the 9ers defense would've got help in both run defense and pressure on the QB.

Also I did mention that Dallas threw in a 1st round pick, it was in my last sentence. A 2026 2nd round pick and a 2027 1st round pick is well worth it for Quinnen Williams. Much rather spend that on Williams than what Cincy spent to get Dexter Lawrence.

What do I think those additions would've done, they would've gave the 9ers a better shot at a win and strengthen the defense. C;mon genus stop being a homer you're better than that.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

You can agree to disagree with what feels worse as a fan but there is no disagreement about what is better and that's getting to the SB.

There is 0% chance that a team can win the SB if they don't make it to the SB. There is no disagreement there. It's a fact.

So while you can claim it's worse to get to the SB and lose there vs not making it at all but we've seen underdogs win SBs many times. We've never seen a team win a SB who didn't make the game to play in it.

And MAYBE you'd have a bit of a leg to stand on if the 49ers made those SBs and got their butts handed to them where they simply had no chance to win the game. That's not what happened.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh boo hoo…that's more than 90% of the teams in the league over the years.

quit pretending this team sucks and aren't consistently one of the best teams in football who always has a legit shot to win it all every yr.

And how many of those teams got rid of their coach and front office?

Baltimore got rid of Harbaugh and they had a legit shot every year for a longer period than Shanahan / Lynch but the difference is he won a Super Bowl.

A legit chance and actually winning are two very different things.

They got rid of Harbaugh because he's had an actual elite QB and a dominant defense for 6 of the last 7 years and they had just 3 playoff wins those seasons.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch has a home Super Bowl and gets rid of half the roster and doesn't make any significant moves to push us over the top and we watch the Seahawks win the SB in our stadium.

Snead has a home Super Bowl and adds the best player in the game.

It would be nice to have a competent GM.

This is what pisses me off about John Lynch and his consultants. I was pounding the table to go all in due to a Super Bowl at home and he just sat back and said it didn't fit into the teams plans (or something of the sort). Imagine if they traded a 2nd for Quinnen Williams and a 3rd for Jaelan Phillips last season like Dallas and Philly did, where would the 9ers have been? Sure it was a 2026 2nd round and 2027 1st round picks for Williams but they would have held on to their 2026 1st round pick.

Where? Watching Seattle win the SB in our own stadium but without a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick.

Also brushing off Dallas throwing in a first round pick in what is considered by virtually everyone to be a SUBSTANTIALLY stronger draft class in 2027 and a player on top of it as an afterthought it something.

You're better than that man. 49ers 100% made the right decision not to go for those trades. What do you think they help us do last year? Lose 23 to 6 instead?

Who knows if the 9ers would've won or loss that game if they went all-in. One thing for sure is that the 9ers defense would've got help in both run defense and pressure on the QB.

Also I did mention that Dallas threw in a 1st round pick, it was in my last sentence. A 2026 2nd round pick and a 2027 1st round pick is well worth it for Quinnen Williams. Much rather spend that on Williams than what Cincy spent to get Dexter Lawrence.

What do I think those additions would've done, they would've gave the 9ers a better shot at a win and strengthen the defense. C;mon genus stop being a homer you're better than that.

This isn't about being a homer. It's about being realistic.

Dallas traded for Quinnen Williams and didn't make the playoffs.
Eagles traded for Phillips and lost at home to our banged up squad.

Seeing what Seattle did to our offense in that playoff game changes how with a better defense? If anything my post is the opposite of being a homer because I'm being realistic with the fact that our roster wasn't good enough with everything that was going on and trading away our future to improve in a year we're clearly hurting would've been a big mistake.

The trade for Osa makes a lot more sense because while Williams is a stud who would've definitely helped us but we needed a pass rushing 3T and Osa is exactly that and cost us a lot less.

2027 draft class is expected to be very strong. We'll see what pick Dallas ends up giving away. Obviously I'm hoping we pick 32nd when the season is over but holding onto our early picks is the smart move right now. Now if things are clicking for us this year and all the guys we needed to step up are doing that then I expect us to go for it at the trade deadline. Not right now and not at last year's trade deadline.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch has a home Super Bowl and gets rid of half the roster and doesn't make any significant moves to push us over the top and we watch the Seahawks win the SB in our stadium.

Snead has a home Super Bowl and adds the best player in the game.

It would be nice to have a competent GM.

This is what pisses me off about John Lynch and his consultants. I was pounding the table to go all in due to a Super Bowl at home and he just sat back and said it didn't fit into the teams plans (or something of the sort). Imagine if they traded a 2nd for Quinnen Williams and a 3rd for Jaelan Phillips last season like Dallas and Philly did, where would the 9ers have been? Sure it was a 2026 2nd round and 2027 1st round picks for Williams but they would have held on to their 2026 1st round pick.

Where? Watching Seattle win the SB in our own stadium but without a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick.

Also brushing off Dallas throwing in a first round pick in what is considered by virtually everyone to be a SUBSTANTIALLY stronger draft class in 2027 and a player on top of it as an afterthought it something.

You're better than that man. 49ers 100% made the right decision not to go for those trades. What do you think they help us do last year? Lose 23 to 6 instead?

Who knows if the 9ers would've won or loss that game if they went all-in. One thing for sure is that the 9ers defense would've got help in both run defense and pressure on the QB.

Also I did mention that Dallas threw in a 1st round pick, it was in my last sentence. A 2026 2nd round pick and a 2027 1st round pick is well worth it for Quinnen Williams. Much rather spend that on Williams than what Cincy spent to get Dexter Lawrence.

What do I think those additions would've done, they would've gave the 9ers a better shot at a win and strengthen the defense. C;mon genus stop being a homer you're better than that.

This isn't about being a homer. It's about being realistic.

Dallas traded for Quinnen Williams and didn't make the playoffs.
Eagles traded for Phillips and lost at home to our banged up squad.

Seeing what Seattle did to our offense in that playoff game changes how with a better defense? If anything my post is the opposite of being a homer because I'm being realistic with the fact that our roster wasn't good enough with everything that was going on and trading away our future to improve in a year we're clearly hurting would've been a big mistake.

The trade for Osa makes a lot more sense because while Williams is a stud who would've definitely helped us but we needed a pass rushing 3T and Osa is exactly that and cost us a lot less.

2027 draft class is expected to be very strong. We'll see what pick Dallas ends up giving away. Obviously I'm hoping we pick 32nd when the season is over but holding onto our early picks is the smart move right now. Now if things are clicking for us this year and all the guys we needed to step up are doing that then I expect us to go for it at the trade deadline. Not right now and not at last year's trade deadline.

You know damn well lol if Lynch made those trades you'd be arguing the opposite. Not thinking that the additions of Phillips and Williams during week 8 would've changed the playoffs or divisional game is being a homer. For one they might've got the #1 seed and beaten Seattle at home, the game was only 13-3. 49ers also would've had a much better chance at stopping the run and giving the offense more time at possessing the ball.

As for the 2027 draft, who cares about that, Lynch has not had good drafts and I'm finally realizing that. Sure Stribling and Height may turn into solid players but he NEEDS to hit on this draft in the worse way because his track record as of late isn't a good one.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And how many of those teams got rid of their coach and front office?

Baltimore got rid of Harbaugh and they had a legit shot every year for a longer period than Shanahan / Lynch but the difference is he won a Super Bowl.

A legit chance and actually winning are two very different things.

those teams overall haven't been as successful as SF has the past 9-10 yrs.

Harbs has been the HC since 2008 and overall hasn't been better overall since Kyle got in SF. John wanted to leave there just as much as Baltimore wanted something new.

Again your mindset is Peterson and Arians are your preferred HCs based off this dumb narrative. Only people that agree with this crap are people who live in a world without context. Hate to break that to ya, that's not real life.

also did you have another account in here that got banned? Just curious

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch has a home Super Bowl and gets rid of half the roster and doesn't make any significant moves to push us over the top and we watch the Seahawks win the SB in our stadium.

Snead has a home Super Bowl and adds the best player in the game.

It would be nice to have a competent GM.

This is what pisses me off about John Lynch and his consultants. I was pounding the table to go all in due to a Super Bowl at home and he just sat back and said it didn't fit into the teams plans (or something of the sort). Imagine if they traded a 2nd for Quinnen Williams and a 3rd for Jaelan Phillips last season like Dallas and Philly did, where would the 9ers have been? Sure it was a 2026 2nd round and 2027 1st round picks for Williams but they would have held on to their 2026 1st round pick.

Where? Watching Seattle win the SB in our own stadium but without a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick.

Also brushing off Dallas throwing in a first round pick in what is considered by virtually everyone to be a SUBSTANTIALLY stronger draft class in 2027 and a player on top of it as an afterthought it something.

You're better than that man. 49ers 100% made the right decision not to go for those trades. What do you think they help us do last year? Lose 23 to 6 instead?

Who knows if the 9ers would've won or loss that game if they went all-in. One thing for sure is that the 9ers defense would've got help in both run defense and pressure on the QB.

Also I did mention that Dallas threw in a 1st round pick, it was in my last sentence. A 2026 2nd round pick and a 2027 1st round pick is well worth it for Quinnen Williams. Much rather spend that on Williams than what Cincy spent to get Dexter Lawrence.

What do I think those additions would've done, they would've gave the 9ers a better shot at a win and strengthen the defense. C;mon genus stop being a homer you're better than that.

This isn't about being a homer. It's about being realistic.

Dallas traded for Quinnen Williams and didn't make the playoffs.
Eagles traded for Phillips and lost at home to our banged up squad.

Seeing what Seattle did to our offense in that playoff game changes how with a better defense? If anything my post is the opposite of being a homer because I'm being realistic with the fact that our roster wasn't good enough with everything that was going on and trading away our future to improve in a year we're clearly hurting would've been a big mistake.

The trade for Osa makes a lot more sense because while Williams is a stud who would've definitely helped us but we needed a pass rushing 3T and Osa is exactly that and cost us a lot less.

2027 draft class is expected to be very strong. We'll see what pick Dallas ends up giving away. Obviously I'm hoping we pick 32nd when the season is over but holding onto our early picks is the smart move right now. Now if things are clicking for us this year and all the guys we needed to step up are doing that then I expect us to go for it at the trade deadline. Not right now and not at last year's trade deadline.

You know damn well lol if Lynch made those trades you'd be arguing the opposite. Not thinking that the additions of Phillips and Williams during week 8 would've changed the playoffs or divisional game is being a homer. For one they might've got the #1 seed and beaten Seattle at home, the game was only 13-3. 49ers also would've had a much better chance at stopping the run and giving the offense more time at possessing the ball.

As for the 2027 draft, who cares about that, Lynch has not had good drafts and I'm finally realizing that. Sure Stribling and Height may turn into solid players but he NEEDS to hit on this draft in the worse way because his track record as of late isn't a good one.

I've never been shy about voicing my concerns about some moves and still hoping I'm wrong about them. I was pretty consistent about us not being good enough to go for the big trade and I preferred we go more money ball approach like we've done in the past with guys like Omenihu.

Plus had we actually done those trades then we would've seen how it unfolded and wouldn't have to guess. Easy to say who cares about 2027 draft until you see what happens and there is a player on the board who would've been perfect for your team.

You're playing the hypothetical game. Maybe those guys help us enough but we scored 3 points in that game. You think the defense was the problem? Sure maybe more stops in the game give us more chances but the state of the offense wasn't exactly on point that day.

I would've liked Jaelan Phillips for a 3rd round pick but with his injury history...he'd last maybe a game with us before his knee exploded.

Originally posted by genus49:
They got rid of Harbaugh because he's had an actual elite QB and a dominant defense for 6 of the last 7 years and they had just 3 playoff wins those seasons.

also, it wasn't a your fired thing, Harbs wanted to go elsewhere all the same. He's got one SB in almost 20 yrs, so if Kyle wins ONE more game, he's what firable to untouchable for the next 20yrs all the same? If people used some perspective and context they'd understand how dumb the whining is.

dispite the poor drafting (because overall it's been subpar) Kyle has this team playing their asses off every yr. He's got this team in a tier that's at the top of the league. He's not perfect, but my god we're like two plays away from having two SBs. Most teams and their fan bases can't even fathom or "complain" about that.

NOW I think the dynamics of the draft process and the GM spot is a convo that needs to start being addressed

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

You can agree to disagree with what feels worse as a fan but there is no disagreement about what is better and that's getting to the SB.

There is 0% chance that a team can win the SB if they don't make it to the SB. There is no disagreement there. It's a fact.

So while you can claim it's worse to get to the SB and lose there vs not making it at all but we've seen underdogs win SBs many times. We've never seen a team win a SB who didn't make the game to play in it.

And MAYBE you'd have a bit of a leg to stand on if the 49ers made those SBs and got their butts handed to them where they simply had no chance to win the game. That's not what happened.

Why in the world are we debating on whether or not its better to get to a SB or not at all. That's the ultimate loser mentality. I only know one thing about SBs:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

You can agree to disagree with what feels worse as a fan but there is no disagreement about what is better and that's getting to the SB.

There is 0% chance that a team can win the SB if they don't make it to the SB. There is no disagreement there. It's a fact.

So while you can claim it's worse to get to the SB and lose there vs not making it at all but we've seen underdogs win SBs many times. We've never seen a team win a SB who didn't make the game to play in it.

And MAYBE you'd have a bit of a leg to stand on if the 49ers made those SBs and got their butts handed to them where they simply had no chance to win the game. That's not what happened.

Why in the world are we debating on whether or not its better to get to a SB or not at all. That's the ultimate loser mentality. I only know one thing about SBs:

Because there are people (like you) who use "2x Super Bowl loser" when describing Shanahan like it's more of a negative to be an anytime Super Bowl loser as opposed to never making the Super Bowl.

Your side started this argument. Sorry. Maybe you should tell your boy Sask49erFan to not make ridiculous comments because that's why I made mine.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

You can agree to disagree with what feels worse as a fan but there is no disagreement about what is better and that's getting to the SB.

There is 0% chance that a team can win the SB if they don't make it to the SB. There is no disagreement there. It's a fact.

So while you can claim it's worse to get to the SB and lose there vs not making it at all but we've seen underdogs win SBs many times. We've never seen a team win a SB who didn't make the game to play in it.

And MAYBE you'd have a bit of a leg to stand on if the 49ers made those SBs and got their butts handed to them where they simply had no chance to win the game. That's not what happened.

Why in the world are we debating on whether or not its better to get to a SB or not at all. That's the ultimate loser mentality. I only know one thing about SBs:

Who the F is that? And if that's the case who gives a s**t if you won a SB prior to last yr…like the Rams (who everyone is crying about) or the Eagles? Last I checked they're big f**king losers all the same because they didn't win last yr.