John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

We have a special fandom.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
I hate to say it, but the Rams are turning into the NFL version of the Dodgers and it sickens me. At least there's a salary cap in the NFL. But to see them consistently acquire the top talent in the league is so disheartening.

What's more disheartening - maddening in fact - is that we're doing very little to keep pace with those in our division. I'm starting to believe that we've become the Cowboys It seems that we're more concerned with sustained competitiveness than actually winning.

So sustained competitiveness isn't winning? Lol

Nope, not SB's. There's a difference between sustained competitiveness and winning SB's.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

If you think Kyle didn't have influence on trading for Trent and CMC then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not giving him sole credit either but even by your own "proof" of Lynch looking at Mahomes he ultimately didn't override Kyle then but did for Garoppolo fumbling several top end draft picks in the process. While there are accounts of Mike and Kyle finding Purdy and even saying he was the best QB they had to Jed's face during Treys year and Garoppolo still on the team.

Also looked it up and what do you know…

2020 Trade: After sitting out the 2019 season in Washington, Williams specifically desired a fresh start in an elite scheme. The 49ers were his preferred destination, reuniting him with head coach Kyle Shanahan, who was his offensive coordinator in Washington

This is what's called a bad faith argument.

How? You boasted on how good Lynch is trading but all the evidence/proof I've shown says otherwise. You can give Lynch 100% credit for CMC and it still wouldn't out weigh the negative. I don't hate Lynch but I disagree with your position on him making great trades

How? I never once said Kyle had no influence, so you are moving goal posts in addition arguing in bad faith. Nor didi "boast" about his trades, YOU brought up boasting, I simply said what about his good trades, if we are going to bring up his bad trades . Again, another had faith argument . You provided bad trades, and I provided good trades. You then proceeded to have a caveat for every good trade as to why he really shouldn't get credit for it, only the bad trades; more bad faith nonsense lol.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

We have a special fandom.

"Fandom"

I'm sure the reaction here would be just as negative from the same people if we had made this trade yesterday. They'd be mad that we traded multiple 1st round picks plus some 2 or 3s and at least one of Bosa/Warner/Mykel/Purdy for a 30 year old DE.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

We have a special fandom.

"Fandom"

I'm sure the reaction here would be just as negative from the same people if we had made this trade yesterday. They'd be mad that we traded multiple 1st round picks plus some 2 or 3s and at least one of Bosa/Warner/Mykel/Purdy for a 30 year old DE.

The Browns aren't taking Bosa & those picks for Garrett. For those 'fans' that think Lynch should have traded for Garrett, please give me the trade pieces.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
He's past his 30th birthday. If it was common for a DE's prime to carry into their 30s, you'd likely see more of them win DPoY past their 30th birthday, but that has been historically very uncommon.

And more than half of those 23 sacks came in just 4 games against either bottom tier or backup tackles. Still impressive, I guess, but more of a fluke than anything.

I'm sure everyone was saying Lynch should be fired after the Parsons trade last year too. Everyone thought that the Packers were going to cruise to a Super Bowl victory. Then they finished with a worse record than they had the prior season and Parsons contributed nothing after his ACL tear.

Maybe you're onto something. The guy only has 1 sack since turning 30.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

Just so you know this type of posting will not help the situation at all and makes it seem like you're maybe posting on the wrong forum.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

If you think Kyle didn't have influence on trading for Trent and CMC then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not giving him sole credit either but even by your own "proof" of Lynch looking at Mahomes he ultimately didn't override Kyle then but did for Garoppolo fumbling several top end draft picks in the process. While there are accounts of Mike and Kyle finding Purdy and even saying he was the best QB they had to Jed's face during Treys year and Garoppolo still on the team.

Also looked it up and what do you know…

2020 Trade: After sitting out the 2019 season in Washington, Williams specifically desired a fresh start in an elite scheme. The 49ers were his preferred destination, reuniting him with head coach Kyle Shanahan, who was his offensive coordinator in Washington

This is what's called a bad faith argument.

How? You boasted on how good Lynch is trading but all the evidence/proof I've shown says otherwise. You can give Lynch 100% credit for CMC and it still wouldn't out weigh the negative. I don't hate Lynch but I disagree with your position on him making great trades

How? I never once said Kyle had no influence, so you are moving goal posts in addition arguing in bad faith. Nor didi "boast" about his trades, YOU brought up boasting, I simply said what about his good trades, if we are going to bring up his bad trades . Again, another had faith argument . You provided bad trades, and I provided good trades. You then proceeded to have a caveat for every good trade as to why he really shouldn't get credit for it, only the bad trades; more bad faith nonsense lol.

You said "What about his great trades?" and I said "I wouldn't boast about his trades" you said I was making things up when I said the trades for TW and CMC were likely heavily influenced by Kyle. I looked into it TW wanted to come here heavily due to the familiarity and perfect scheme fit with Kyle. CMC Lynch pushed for while Kyle was iffy and Jed ultimately sided with Lynch. All while conveniently skipping over all the bad trades I pointed out made by Lynch calling my evidence/proof "bad faithed"

I see what you're saying if you talk about the bad let's mention the good but that point is pretty much moot in comparison to his bad ones. It's like with Moody he nails a 63 yard field goal to win the game but goes and misses left and right including in the superbowl.

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

We have a special fandom.

"Fandom"

I'm sure the reaction here would be just as negative from the same people if we had made this trade yesterday. They'd be mad that we traded multiple 1st round picks plus some 2 or 3s and at least one of Bosa/Warner/Mykel/Purdy for a 30 year old DE.

The Browns aren't taking Bosa & those picks for Garrett. For those 'fans' that think Lynch should have traded for Garrett, please give me the trade pieces.

Mykel Williams and two 1sts is probably my best offer and even then Browns probably say no.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
I hate to say it, but the Rams are turning into the NFL version of the Dodgers and it sickens me. At least there's a salary cap in the NFL. But to see them consistently acquire the top talent in the league is so disheartening.

What's more disheartening - maddening in fact - is that we're doing very little to keep pace with those in our division. I'm starting to believe that we've become the Cowboys It seems that we're more concerned with sustained competitiveness than actually winning.

So sustained competitiveness isn't winning? Lol

Nope, not SB's. There's a difference between sustained competitiveness and winning SB's.

Winning SBs isn't easy. There are like 12 teams who have NEVER done it. Some haven't even been to the SB.

If you stop being dramatic and look at each game with context you'll realize that what this regime has done most certainly had them in position to win it all. Their personnel decisions had them in 2 SBs and 2 other NFCCGs.

In each SB you can point to a couple of critical plays that had nothing to do with coaching or personnel decisions which had they bounced the other way we walk away SB champs. Hell...simply better officiating(like the Rams got) and we have 2 SB wins instead of 0.

You can definitely do that in the Rams NFCCG as well. Eagles one is a lot tougher because of how early Brock was injured.

So while it's true...Kyle and John have not won a SB and maybe they never do together but to pretend they haven't done a good job is simply a terrible take.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Firmly in 3rd place in the NFC west

hahahahahahaha

rams and hawks win rings

niners talk about rings but once again Kyle is looking up at better teams. Suck it Kyle! Suck it John!!

Who are you a fan of? A true 49ers fan wouldn't be happy like you are right now…

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Mykel Williams and two 1sts is probably my best offer and even then Browns probably say no.

Browns laugh hanging up at that offer. The 49ers don't have a single young player outside of Brock on the team that would move the needle for the Browns.

We weren't in position to get Garrett at this rate and we will be fine. Our three phases vs everyone else's. Offense ST and defense. We will win the West and the Super Bowl this year. I have no doubt

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

If you think Kyle didn't have influence on trading for Trent and CMC then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not giving him sole credit either but even by your own "proof" of Lynch looking at Mahomes he ultimately didn't override Kyle then but did for Garoppolo fumbling several top end draft picks in the process. While there are accounts of Mike and Kyle finding Purdy and even saying he was the best QB they had to Jed's face during Treys year and Garoppolo still on the team.

Also looked it up and what do you know…

2020 Trade: After sitting out the 2019 season in Washington, Williams specifically desired a fresh start in an elite scheme. The 49ers were his preferred destination, reuniting him with head coach Kyle Shanahan, who was his offensive coordinator in Washington

This is what's called a bad faith argument.

How? You boasted on how good Lynch is trading but all the evidence/proof I've shown says otherwise. You can give Lynch 100% credit for CMC and it still wouldn't out weigh the negative. I don't hate Lynch but I disagree with your position on him making great trades

How? I never once said Kyle had no influence, so you are moving goal posts in addition arguing in bad faith. Nor didi "boast" about his trades, YOU brought up boasting, I simply said what about his good trades, if we are going to bring up his bad trades . Again, another had faith argument . You provided bad trades, and I provided good trades. You then proceeded to have a caveat for every good trade as to why he really shouldn't get credit for it, only the bad trades; more bad faith nonsense lol.

You said "What about his great trades?" and I said "I wouldn't boast about his trades" you said I was making things up when I said the trades for TW and CMC were likely heavily influenced by Kyle. I looked into it TW wanted to come here heavily due to the familiarity and perfect scheme fit with Kyle. CMC Lynch pushed for while Kyle was iffy and Jed ultimately sided with Lynch. All while conveniently skipping over all the bad trades I pointed out made by Lynch calling my evidence/proof "bad faithed"

I see what you're saying if you talk about the bad let's mention the good but that point is pretty much moot in comparison to his bad ones. It's like with Moody he nails a 63 yard field goal to win the game but goes and misses left and right including in the superbowl.

lol. You seem to live in your own reality or are just being intentionally disingenuous . Moving on

Just cancel the damn season already….Niners or the other 30 teams have no chance at winning the Lombardi trophy.
Rams go 20-0
Points scored - 3658
Stafford throws for 7329 yards, 83 TDs, 0 INTS
Puka - 321 catches 4843 yards 57 TDs
Adams - 264 catches 3115 yards 42 TDs
K. Williams - 599 carries 3992 yards rushing, 68 TDs

Defense gives up .9 points a game
Sacks - 438 ***if Darnold comes back, 581
Garrett - 259 sacks, 793 TFLs
McDuffie - 219 INTs, 112 returned for TDs

At halftime of the NFC Championship game McVay AND Snead get inducted into the HOF

After the Super Bowl, Goodell renames the Lombardi Trophy to the "McVay/Snead" Trophy

Lots of $#!t can happen throughout a preseason and the season. Rams have played a lot of football the last few years and have for the most part avoided any major injuries that would cause or caused their stars to miss a good part or the entire season. I'm looking forward to not only seeing how our boys stack up against the already crowned Super Bowl champs but the rest of the league as well.