John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by RDB4216:
If you think 4216 are "random numbers" on a 49ers board, it shows what a recent casual fan you are. Not surprising from someone glazing over Gore. But just so you know, this team used to win Super Bowls. A lot. So older fans want more than just going to the playoffs. Participation trophies just don't mean as much to some of us. And as far as "talking out my ass", I've been picking better drafts since 2000 when I first started tracking. I called for us to draft Brian Urlacher in the 1st that year. Oh...you probably don't know...he was defensive rookie of the year...8 time pro bowler...4 time all pro...and Hall Of Famer.

see below

Originally posted by English:
This thread is getting a little bit narky. Let's try to make it a little bit more pleasant here.

Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Dillon Radunz also became a starter at Guard SMH. But Humphrey and Quinn Meinerz were by far the guys I was pounding the table for the most.

If they rely on Forester and scouts so much for players, they need to overhaul the OL scouting group or bring in a consultant. Freaking Brad Graham would be better than anyone on staff right now. We've passed on every OL prospect I've ever wanted for years, except Puni. So many guys I was hoping for this year.. Logan Jones, Jalen Farmer, Rutledge were particular faves.

Oh well.. Maybe next year..

The trouble with consensus, as Lynch puts it, is that they get input from everybody. And on one side you got Forrester who doesn't want any early picks on the OL. He is convinced he can make it work with UDFAs and late round picks. And on the other side you got Koucerek who bangs the table for his guys in the early rounds. This is how you end up with Kinlaw over Wirfs, for example.
I don't think consensus works.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I mean... We clearly understand how hard it is for an offense to be functional when the OL is getting manhandled, but we continue to neglect OL in the early rounds or pass on superior guys for inferior talent.

They have owned 33 picks in the first three rounds over the span of 10 drafts. They have used only 3 of those on OL. McGlinchey, Banks, and Puni.

3/33. Less than 10% of Day 1 & 2 Draft Capital spent on OL. Absolutely inexcusable IMO.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

I mean... We clearly understand how hard it is for an offense to be functional when the OL is getting manhandled, but we continue to neglect OL in the early rounds or pass on superior guys for inferior talent.

They have owned 33 picks in the first three rounds over the span of 10 drafts. They have used only 3 of those on OL. McGlinchey, Banks, and Puni.

3/33. Less than 10% of Day 1 & 2 Draft Capital spent on OL. Absolutely inexcusable IMO.

Used a 3rd and 5 on acquiring Trent Williams too tbf.

2 of those 3 OL picks were higher than any used on a DB ever.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Yeah I get that, just saying if we're looking at picks that were actually kept/used, it's rough. They haven't prioritized trenches on the offensive side at all, through the draft early.

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by RDB4216:
If you think 4216 are "random numbers" on a 49ers board, it shows what a recent casual fan you are. Not surprising from someone glazing over Gore. But just so you know, this team used to win Super Bowls. A lot. So older fans want more than just going to the playoffs. Participation trophies just don't mean as much to some of us. And as far as "talking out my ass", I've been picking better drafts since 2000 when I first started tracking. I called for us to draft Brian Urlacher in the 1st that year. Oh...you probably don't know...he was defensive rookie of the year...8 time pro bowler...4 time all pro...and Hall Of Famer.

see below

Originally posted by English:
This thread is getting a little bit narky. Let's try to make it a little bit more pleasant here.

How about see above? Literally the post right before yours, that you conveniently ignored.

Originally posted by genus49:
I would love to re-run that draft without the Lance selection at the top(honestly without the trade up too) I think that pick led us drafting guys like Banks, Sermon and Gray and boy did it backfire.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Yeah I get that, just saying if we're looking at picks that were actually kept/used, it's rough. They haven't prioritized trenches on the offensive side at all, through the draft early.

Nor have they prioritized the secondary. I keep hope alive every year and every year its skill guy or d line.

I will say the success rate of IOL early overall is pretty spotty if you go back the last decade. For all the guys you listed there also quite a lot of misses.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Yeah I get that, just saying if we're looking at picks that were actually kept/used, it's rough. They haven't prioritized trenches on the offensive side at all, through the draft early.

Nor have they prioritized the secondary. I keep hope alive every year and every year its skill guy or d line.

I will say the success rate of IOL early overall is pretty spotty if you go back the last decade. For all the guys you listed there also quite a lot of misses.

Funny how those are the weakest areas of the team too, isn't it? I ran the numbers on average draft round, and the two lowest on offense were OL/TE, the lowest on defense were S/LB.

Exact average round pick used:
TE 5.4
LB 4.78
S 4.71
OL 4.45

The team suffers immensely any time the depth is tested at these spots.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Yeah I get that, just saying if we're looking at picks that were actually kept/used, it's rough. They haven't prioritized trenches on the offensive side at all, through the draft early.

Nor have they prioritized the secondary. I keep hope alive every year and every year its skill guy or d line.

I will say the success rate of IOL early overall is pretty spotty if you go back the last decade. For all the guys you listed there also quite a lot of misses.

Funny how those are the weakest areas of the team too, isn't it? I ran the numbers on average draft round, and the two lowest on offense were OL/TE, the lowest on defense were S/LB.

Exact average round pick used:
TE 5.4
LB 4.78
S 4.71
OL 4.45

The team suffers immensely any time the depth is tested at these spots.

interesting thanks. what are the numbers for Rb, WR, qb?