John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

Originally posted by Scooper1:
Please tell me what the f**k he would be doing early in training camp??? He was working remotely watching every snap. Is this out of the ordinary?? Absolutely. He was fired because he went with jj instead of Sam. Point blank. A decision which was probably 50/50 between him and stefanski. No one said a word about them race before he was fired.

Oh I don't know... evaluating roster battles, 53 man cuts, and negotiating holdouts; to name a few. And, finally, his incompetence went well beyond McCarthy. Done here.

Way too many beers to be typing on a forum last night. No clue why this would even be something I discussed. My bad 😂

I am a constant optimist and fan of the regime as they've a proven track record of winning football. I cannot for the life of me understand why they continue to draft the way that they do. 😔

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Typecast:
Guys. Please stop citing general big boards, especially aggregate boards that have no qualification criteria like nflmockdraftdatabase. You are embarrassing yourself.

Could you explain a little further for the uninitiated?

I'd love to him to point out all the players we've drafted over the years that general big boards called a reach….stout is the only one and that was a yr ago….bad pick after bad pick when reaching.

We've now drafted 6 RBs under this regime and the most "successful" RB is Trey sermon. It's come to a point where they just suck at scouting the position or simply refuse to let any of them develop and play. Either way they continue to waste picks

YYou're right and I agree that our idiosyncratic and quirky draft system has underperformed at the running back position. All the mid round picks for the last few years turned out to be marginal contributors or losers outright. When the outside Zone concept was fresh we got undersized udfas that contributed. Then we started drafting horses that didn't work at all.

But honestly it's not the reaching. It's the complete lack of investment at the situational needs of our roster year to year to year. We could have drafted the number one Center on the board for iol depth. Why not? A player like that who doesn't flame out instantly contributes to the team and the position group. Why not do it? Or sticking at 27 and drafting lomu. He turns into swing tackle backup with quality physical performance. Maybe doesn't see the field the first couple of years too much but instantly adds depth and physicality to the position group. Why not do it? Why not make the easy pick the Sure Fire pick? Again we have to be the genius all the time and make eccentric decisions because why exactly? I think it's vanity and ego and the strategy isn't executed in a particularly effective way.

I'm all done with it I'm all done with it.

Who would be an immediate upgrade at the GM position?

Thought about it and I think that the draft comes down to one thing, arrogance. Lynch and Shanahan believe that they know what is best for the team, the organization and to heck with anyone who disagrees with them. They feel that their talent is sufficient to keep the 49ers great, for that matter all that the 49ers do is because of them. Also, not convinced that Jed really wants a Super Bowl and that he is happy having a team that can get to the playoffs and be there and have a chance and probably not go all the way while fans have some hope. Well, for this fan since 1972 the hope is fading fast.

I think that their position is supported by the local media and online followers of the team that don't dare to challenge them and call them out on this. They fear losing accesss to team and their livelihood. This is a horrible draft, period. One player that may be what they need if he works out for passing downs. The rest so far, what a joke. They did nothing to address the needs of this team and to strengthen it both for now and for the future. The result will be a tean in decline over the next 3-5 years until they need a full rebuild. With that I am not sure I have confidence in their ability to do that. I hope I am dead wrong, really wrong but I don't think I am on this.

This year they play:
Home:

• Arizona Cardinals . Cardinals will have improved so if the 49ers lose one ot them, I won't be surprised. So a win at home.
• Los Angeles Rams Loss. They haven't kept up with this team and I don't think what the 49ers have done allows them to match the Rams right now.
• Seattle Seahawks Loss the Hawks own the 49ers right now and no one on here wants to hear this but they are a better team and organizaiton right now. Super Bowls are won in the trenches and the 49ers cannot compete on either side of the trenches with the Hawks right now.
• Denver Broncos Loss
• Las Vegas Raiders Win
• Philadelphia Eagles Loss the Eagles have done what they needed to do to replace players who left or are leaving and will want revenge for the playoff loss, especially where the Niners are at home.
• Washington Commanders Win
• Miami Dolphins Win
• Minnesota Vikings Win

Home record 5 wins 4 losses

Away:

• Arizona Cardinals I'll give them the win though I think the Cardinals have improved
• Los Angeles Rams Loss
• Seattle Seahawks Loss
• Dallas Cowboys Win
• Kansas City Chiefs Loss thogh this could go either way but being in KC, I see a Chiefs win here.
• Los Angeles Chargers Loss Upset and two very even teams but give it to the Chargers since they are at home.
• New York Giants Win
• Atlanta Falcons Win

Road record: 4 wins 4 losses

Total record: 9 wins and 8 losses and they miss the playoffs. Seattle and LA get in from the NFC West.

This will be because of their failture to really address the line and protect either Purdy or Jones and I think Purdy goes down at some point with loss of protection. CM will be injured as will some other key plays like Evans and another receiver. Their inability to run the ball will continue as they haven't really improved the OLine. The defense will also suffer as Bosa may not return to full form at 28 coming of the ACL and/or without a real threat from the defensive line, teams double team him. I expect Greenlaw gets hurt as does others. Bottom line, because of their lack of depth because of poor drafting they won't be in a position this year to recover from injuries that their aging core players will suffer and it will show. I don't care how great Shanahan is and I do believe he has an outstanding scheme mind, if all you have is average players to deal with, then at some point all you're going to get is average. This will come back on Lynch and as a result Lynch should be moved to President of something or fired. Get a GM that understands what the team needs and drafts according and let Shanahan be the head coach, separating the two. Tired of watching this team and organization fall short because they are horrible in the draft and that falls right back on Lynch and on Shanahan. Rant done and I hope I live to regret saying this and am proven wrong.

Originally posted by Scooper1:
I am a constant optimist and fan of the regime as they've a proven track record of winning football. I cannot for the life of me understand why they continue to draft the way that they do. 😔

This regime does so many things well and is championship cailber in many ways. Drafting is something they do not do well. They have hit homeruns on a few picks (Kittle Fred Deebo Aiyuk Brock etc.) but the evidence is there if we just look at the past 5-6 drafts. Too many misses.

It's not one person's fault either. It's the result of a collaborative effort. The poor drafting actually highlights how good Kyle and his coaching staff are; the team remains ultra-competitive despite having very few, if any, young impact players

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Thought about it and I think that the draft comes down to one thing, arrogance. Lynch and Shanahan believe that they know what is best for the team, the organization and to heck with anyone who disagrees with them. They feel that their talent is sufficient to keep the 49ers great, for that matter all that the 49ers do is because of them. Also, not convinced that Jed really wants a Super Bowl and that he is happy having a team that can get to the playoffs and be there and have a chance and probably not go all the way while fans have some hope. Well, for this fan since 1972 the hope is fading fast.

I think that their position is supported by the local media and online followers of the team that don't dare to challenge them and call them out on this. They fear losing accesss to team and their livelihood. This is a horrible draft, period. One player that may be what they need if he works out for passing downs. The rest so far, what a joke. They did nothing to address the needs of this team and to strengthen it both for now and for the future. The result will be a tean in decline over the next 3-5 years until they need a full rebuild. With that I am not sure I have confidence in their ability to do that. I hope I am dead wrong, really wrong but I don't think I am on this.

This year they play:
Home:

• Arizona Cardinals . Cardinals will have improved so if the 49ers lose one ot them, I won't be surprised. So a win at home.
• Los Angeles Rams Loss. They haven't kept up with this team and I don't think what the 49ers have done allows them to match the Rams right now.
• Seattle Seahawks Loss the Hawks own the 49ers right now and no one on here wants to hear this but they are a better team and organizaiton right now. Super Bowls are won in the trenches and the 49ers cannot compete on either side of the trenches with the Hawks right now.
• Denver Broncos Loss
• Las Vegas Raiders Win
• Philadelphia Eagles Loss the Eagles have done what they needed to do to replace players who left or are leaving and will want revenge for the playoff loss, especially where the Niners are at home.
• Washington Commanders Win
• Miami Dolphins Win
• Minnesota Vikings Win

Home record 5 wins 4 losses

Away:

• Arizona Cardinals I'll give them the win though I think the Cardinals have improved
• Los Angeles Rams Loss
• Seattle Seahawks Loss
• Dallas Cowboys Win
• Kansas City Chiefs Loss thogh this could go either way but being in KC, I see a Chiefs win here.
• Los Angeles Chargers Loss Upset and two very even teams but give it to the Chargers since they are at home.
• New York Giants Win
• Atlanta Falcons Win

Road record: 4 wins 4 losses

Total record: 9 wins and 8 losses and they miss the playoffs. Seattle and LA get in from the NFC West.

This will be because of their failture to really address the line and protect either Purdy or Jones and I think Purdy goes down at some point with loss of protection. CM will be injured as will some other key plays like Evans and another receiver. Their inability to run the ball will continue as they haven't really improved the OLine. The defense will also suffer as Bosa may not return to full form at 28 coming of the ACL and/or without a real threat from the defensive line, teams double team him. I expect Greenlaw gets hurt as does others. Bottom line, because of their lack of depth because of poor drafting they won't be in a position this year to recover from injuries that their aging core players will suffer and it will show. I don't care how great Shanahan is and I do believe he has an outstanding scheme mind, if all you have is average players to deal with, then at some point all you're going to get is average. This will come back on Lynch and as a result Lynch should be moved to President of something or fired. Get a GM that understands what the team needs and drafts according and let Shanahan be the head coach, separating the two. Tired of watching this team and organization fall short because they are horrible in the draft and that falls right back on Lynch and on Shanahan. Rant done and I hope I live to regret saying this and am proven wrong.

This is actually what I like about both of them.

What a disappointing draft we've had thus far.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Scooper1:
I am a constant optimist and fan of the regime as they've a proven track record of winning football. I cannot for the life of me understand why they continue to draft the way that they do. 😔

This regime does so many things well and is championship cailber in many ways. Drafting is something they do not do well. They have hit homeruns on a few picks (Kittle Fred Deebo Aiyuk Brock etc.) but the evidence is there if we just look at the past 5-6 drafts. Too many misses.

It's not one person's fault either. It's the result of a collaborative effort. The poor drafting actually highlights how good Kyle and his coaching staff are; the team remains ultra-competitive despite having very few, if any, young impact players

Agree. But I think 2025 was a good draft. It got us into the playoffs a year early. This could be a good draft still. We won't know until the season starts to see what this draft *really* brings to the table. Day three is about to begin and this is the bulk of where the 49er picks are.

I think the current three draft picks have potential. I think it's premature to say they are all busts from the gitgo.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. But I think 2025 was a good draft. It got us into the playoffs a year early. This could be a good draft still. We won't know until the season starts to see what this draft *really* brings to the table. Day three is about to begin and this is the bulk of where the 49er picks are.

I think the current three draft picks have potential. I think it's premature to say they are all busts from the gitgo.

I'll preface by saying that I like the 2025 class as well, but it's still a wait and see for me. Al Collins and CJ West actually tied for the lowest graded defensive lineman in the NFL, the same with Marques Sigle. Lowest graded safety out of all safeties. Nick Martin is a question mark. Jordan James is a question mark, and might be buried now. Same with Jordan Watkins. Stout looks like a solid pick.

I agree though, that we don't know what's what until we see the final product

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Who would be an immediate upgrade at the GM position?

AI would immediately step in, just have a laptop replace him.... even Hamburglar from McDonalds

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Four 4th round picks tomorrow and a late 5th, and the Height pick was okay.

But sorry, I simply can't get over the DeZaun pick. One of the worst picks ever and I'm not being overdramatic. You had 21 hours to think about it and listen to trade offers and you pick a guy three rounds early at #33. That's a legit fireable offense for the horrible asset management alone.

The trade downs are the only reason this draft isn't an F.

it must be nice to be able to determine a draft pick's entire career trajectory a few hours after he's been selected. Can you do that with stocks as well? I could use a good investment strategy.

It doesn't matter if he ends up being the best WR of this draft class. We had pick #33 along with plenty of trade offers and we selected him when he very very very easily would've been available at #90.

It's about the asset management.

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Who would be an immediate upgrade at the GM position?

AI would immediately step in, just have a laptop replace him.... even Hamburglar from McDonalds

Or..

This team is built around Kyle Shanahan. I'm not willing to put everything on Lynch. I don't think that's what's actually going on. Lynch's job is to mediate between Kyle Shanahan's impulses and the rest of the football Ops Team. He's a permanent internal negotiator. I think Kyle needs to start living outside his offensive world or his role needs to be truncated in order to prevent the constant Indulgence in offensive skill positions to the detriment of integrating athletic depth everywhere else through the draft..

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by justjim77:
I said before the draft that he needs to knock it out of the park or I'm done with him.

im done with him. Unless these players turn out to be amazing rookies, they can both go.

I'm not firing Kyle based off the draft..,he's a big say in all of it, but this is Lynch and his FO's show.

Lynch is GM in name only hes a convenient scapegoat.