John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Typecast:
No it's not. Anyone that simply writes about football, not necessarily scouts, can submit their data. The consensus big board is a composite from boards, general mock drafts, and team specific mock drafts, with extra noise from submissions months ago before the pre-draft process. How does an Eagles blog that submits a big board based on their team reflect the 49ers big board? Spoiler: It doesn't.

An individual or a blog can submit their board but not all data is weighed the same, and is not immune from things such as LOESS smoothing.

Regardless, whether comparing to an aggregator, a Dane Brugler, or other industry types, this FO is notorious for reaching.

definitely no pool parties from Raheem Morris.

Makes perfect sense... get a WR that can block, but not an OL who's job it is to block 🤔

- John Lynch

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

I think calling anyone after the 3rd a reach is kinda ridiculous. Sixth round picks should never be called a reach. Even if some talking heads say they had him being undrafted. s**t, some of them had Brock being undrafted so why not add him to this list?

Ok only 8 out of everyone on that list, was drafted after the 3rd round.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Four 4th round picks tomorrow and a late 5th, and the Height pick was okay.

But sorry, I simply can't get over the DeZaun pick. One of the worst picks ever and I'm not being overdramatic. You had 21 hours to think about it and listen to trade offers and you pick a guy three rounds early at #33. That's a legit fireable offense for the horrible asset management alone.

The trade downs are the only reason this draft isn't an F.

it must be nice to be able to determine a draft pick's entire career trajectory a few hours after he's been selected. Can you do that with stocks as well? I could use a good investment strategy.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Four 4th round picks tomorrow and a late 5th, and the Height pick was okay.

But sorry, I simply can't get over the DeZaun pick. One of the worst picks ever and I'm not being overdramatic. You had 21 hours to think about it and listen to trade offers and you pick a guy three rounds early at #33. That's a legit fireable offense for the horrible asset management alone.

The trade downs are the only reason this draft isn't an F.

it must be nice to be able to determine a draft pick's entire career trajectory a few hours after he's been selected. Can you do that with stocks as well? I could use a good investment strategy.

No way Stribiling is worst than Dante Pettis, I put everything I own on that. Pettis is a p***y, Stribiling tries to run through defenders!!!!

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Do you think Jed has the balls to do that and would Kyle simply accept that?

With Lynch being out of contractI I think a conversation will need to happen about it.

Cant have it go the way the Pats did under Bellicheck.

i think its far more likely we get what i suggested to happen then it is to do what the anti Kyle people want and fire everyone to magically find the coach and GM we need.

Yeah and I'd imagine in that conversation Jed gets steamrolled. That being said maybe John wants out. We will find out next year.

The anti people may be right in that Kyle may be so stubborn, cleaning house could be the only choice Jed has. But I see Jed as a weak owner so in reality nothing will change.

a lot of nuance in there but my god they are drafting like s**t.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
For me they needed to hit on players that could impact now and into the future. They didn't do that. None of who they selected are going to be replacing the core of the team that is aging. What Lynch did in this draft is seal the fate and need for a complete rebuild in a couple of years. Let's see what happens when Kittle retires or becomes less effective due to wear and tare and age. Who replaces CM when his legs stop? Evans and Kirk, who is going to replace them in a year? T Williams? What about Bosa at age 28 coming back from his second ACL. Is he the player he once was or will be when he comes back? Both Seattle and LA can double team him now and negate him. Who is playing LG? No, all the good done in the free agency period is wasted because you build a dynastry and Champion team through the draft and the Niners just can't do that of late.

How do you know? Every year around this time the internet and media are filled with people who are just convinced they know what the right pick "should have been" and usually it all boils down to, "well, the team didn't take who I thought they should take, so therefore they failed."

I have always made it very clear that I don't watch college football, at all, so to me there is no real difference between that guy Reese who was taken 5th by the Giants, and Height. People who claim to know about these things say that Reese is better, so I'll just have to take their word for that. However, until that actually proves to be the case on an NFL field, I'll take a wait and see approach. Maybe Stribling and Height will turn out to be exactly what the team needs them to be, maybe they won't. I'm perfectly willing to concede that the draft has been more miss than hit in the Lynch and Shanahan era, but their reasoning behind the picks has always seemed to be consistent with what their goals were. Hopefully, this year's class will work out the way it was intended to. Go Niners!

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Makes perfect sense... get a WR that can block, but not an OL who's job it is to block 🤔

- John Lynch

As we watched the Seattle tape and 3 or 4 out of 5 offensive linemen were beat off the snap, as Purdy scrambled for his life the play died because our WR couldn't block the corner also coming after him. This kid will solve that!

or - we noticed in the playoffs whenever we tried to run the ball and Christian had no running lanes via the offensive line, the play died because the wr failed to block his guy when Christian needed to kick it outside. This kid will solve that!

Right I'm in, I like Lynch, but he's got to go as GM, change his title, make him an exec, but bring in a draft guy to run it. What an awful Day 2.

Ignored the O-Line and Safety rooms again for what???? 40 catches and 40 carries?????

He clearly is out of his depth. They need a GM who actually knows how to evaluate. I wish he would have taken the Amazon job

Originally posted by socalfan21:
He clearly is out of his depth. They need a GM who actually knows how to evaluate. I wish he would have taken the Amazon job

I think it's more that they turn portions of the draft over to Kyle and his staff. This might not be his fault, but if he's not powerful enough to stop it, maybe we need someone who is.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

I think calling anyone after the 3rd a reach is kinda ridiculous. Sixth round picks should never be called a reach. Even if some talking heads say they had him being undrafted. s**t, some of them had Brock being undrafted so why not add him to this list?

Ok only 8 out of everyone on that list, was drafted after the 3rd round.

IIt's not the reaching that makes this front office so inept in the draft process. It's the complete inability to prioritize the positional needs of the current roster. They get an F minus for that. You can see this not just this year but over the last several drafts.

I personally believe there's trauma involved. At some point they've just agreed internally that they can't professionally evaluate certain positions so they avoid them.

Originally posted by Typecast:
Guys. Please stop citing general big boards, especially aggregate boards that have no qualification criteria like nflmockdraftdatabase. You are embarrassing yourself.

Could you explain a little further for the uninitiated?

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
He clearly is out of his depth. They need a GM who actually knows how to evaluate. I wish he would have taken the Amazon job

I think it's more that they turn portions of the draft over to Kyle and his staff. This might not be his fault, but if he's not powerful enough to stop it, maybe we need someone who is.

I think folks need to understand that every team's coaching staff has a lot of input in who is drafted. Yes Kyle will have more say in those skilled positions on offense. He has total faith in his position coaches for those positions…if not they wouldn't be there. It's part of their job.

the scouting department brings all the info in and they have a bigger say…lynch legit said this at the presser before the draft.

it's not just Kyle looking over hundreds of hours of film on every single prospect lol. Also lynch does have final say on draft day…but overall it's not a my guy vs your guy thing. They all make an agreement.

My overall issue is they simply refuse to read the rest of the league and understand value. I'm so sick of hearing we had such conviction over so an so….dude enough. They're not learning from their mistakes and at some point you need to find a new GM if we suffer though another s**t draft.