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So, first of all why is only Kyle's interview filmed but not John's. Secondly, if a bunch of fans just take whatever he said on the substation issue like it's a whole BS gaslighting mess what purpose does it serve for him to practically volunteer giving any information on actual study of it they've done?
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Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by captveg:
People said that they should hire a 3rd party expert. Seems they did that, and now that people don't like the results of that they are ignoring or disregarding the results. Not a very scientific reaction to them doing a scientific 3rd party study.

That 3rd party, whoever they hired, is definitely wrong. 100%. You can hire anyone you want to get the desired outcome. If you are truly trying to find out the truth, you would be 100% transparent, which the niners have not been. Personally, i don't care. Not my money, not my health at risk. What people want to do and believe is all on them, as long as it doesn't effect me.

This happens in the court room too. Battle of the experts. In this situation, I fall into the camp of "good that the team investigated this further, but my opinion will be informed by meaningful evidence rather than naked conclusion." If this is the last we've heard from Lynch on this issue, I'm not convinced of anything. Hopefully he shares more in the future.

It also doesn't really matter what I believe, but I have to imagine the average player whose health and livelihood are at stake will be at least a little skeptical.
Originally posted by ritz126:
Not this s**t again

Seriously guys? Ive got to say one thing. This is why the country is in the s**t people think they know more than people smarter than them. This was the dumbest conspiracy theory and people just ran with it

People are just dumb
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by tankle104:
AJ Epenesa isn't signing with the browns. Maybe that is a rotational piece we can pick up? idk much about him. browns offered him a 1 year 5M, not bad.

Wild that him, Clowney, Joey and Cam are still all unsigned and it's March 30th…

Not really all that wild.

These players value themselves more than teams do and teams operate with a salary cap which limits how much money they can spend.

They are looked at like the 49ers view JJ. Yeah, of course you can provide some value, but SAF not at that price.

People will say I'm a conspiracy theorist etc but I really feel like the teams are kinda fighting back against the FA period of over paying guys. I know that's technically illegal, but very hard to approve. I think there's a reason that this FA has been a lot different from a signings standpoint.

I'm all for the players making money but there also needs to be a balance. there's only so much money to go around for each team - it isn't like a team not spending money saves the team anything, they're obligated to spend 90% of their salary cap. I like to see the money spread around and not gobbled up on a handful of players, al though that isn't the way the cookie crumbles.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by tankle104:
AJ Epenesa isn't signing with the browns. Maybe that is a rotational piece we can pick up? idk much about him. browns offered him a 1 year 5M, not bad.

Wild that him, Clowney, Joey and Cam are still all unsigned and it's March 30th…

Not really all that wild.

These players value themselves more than teams do and teams operate with a salary cap which limits how much money they can spend.

They are looked at like the 49ers view JJ. Yeah, of course you can provide some value, but SAF not at that price.

People will say I'm a conspiracy theorist etc but I really feel like the teams are kinda fighting back against the FA period of over paying guys. I know that's technically illegal, but very hard to approve. I think there's a reason that this FA has been a lot different from a signings standpoint.

I'm all for the players making money but there also needs to be a balance. there's only so much money to go around for each team - it isn't like a team not spending money saves the team anything, they're obligated to spend 90% of their salary cap. I like to see the money spread around and not gobbled up on a handful of players, al though that isn't the way the cookie crumbles.

However it came about, market correction was necessary, in my opinion.
Originally posted by Koldo:
The only incompetent here is Johnny Lynch.

Players should refuse to train until the substation or the training facilities are relocated.

How about we relocate the stadium and training grounds to Alcatraz while you're at it?
Originally posted by ScarScream:
Originally posted by Koldo:
The only incompetent here is Johnny Lynch.

Players should refuse to train until the substation or the training facilities are relocated.

How about we relocate the stadium and training grounds to Alcatraz while you're at it?
Then Koldo would blame the bad spirits and ghosts on that island
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by captveg:
People said that they should hire a 3rd party expert. Seems they did that, and now that people don't like the results of that they are ignoring or disregarding the results. Not a very scientific reaction to them doing a scientific 3rd party study.

That 3rd party, whoever they hired, is definitely wrong. 100%. You can hire anyone you want to get the desired outcome. If you are truly trying to find out the truth, you would be 100% transparent, which the niners have not been. Personally, i don't care. Not my money, not my health at risk. What people want to do and believe is all on them, as long as it doesn't effect me.

This happens in the court room too. Battle of the experts. In this situation, I fall into the camp of "good that the team investigated this further, but my opinion will be informed by meaningful evidence rather than naked conclusion." If this is the last we've heard from Lynch on this issue, I'm not convinced of anything. Hopefully he shares more in the future.

It also doesn't really matter what I believe, but I have to imagine the average player whose health and livelihood are at stake will be at least a little skeptical.

They don't owe the public any details of the independent evaluation. Their players/employees are a different matter, but that's an internal issue. If the independent evaluation provides substantial evidence that it's not a measurable factor, I'm willing to bet they're sharing that info with players and agents to ease concerns.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by captveg:
People said that they should hire a 3rd party expert. Seems they did that, and now that people don't like the results of that they are ignoring or disregarding the results. Not a very scientific reaction to them doing a scientific 3rd party study.

That 3rd party, whoever they hired, is definitely wrong. 100%. You can hire anyone you want to get the desired outcome. If you are truly trying to find out the truth, you would be 100% transparent, which the niners have not been. Personally, i don't care. Not my money, not my health at risk. What people want to do and believe is all on them, as long as it doesn't effect me.

This happens in the court room too. Battle of the experts. In this situation, I fall into the camp of "good that the team investigated this further, but my opinion will be informed by meaningful evidence rather than naked conclusion." If this is the last we've heard from Lynch on this issue, I'm not convinced of anything. Hopefully he shares more in the future.

It also doesn't really matter what I believe, but I have to imagine the average player whose health and livelihood are at stake will be at least a little skeptical.

They don't owe the public any details of the independent evaluation. Their players/employees are a different matter, but that's an internal issue. If the independent evaluation provides substantial evidence that it's not a measurable factor, I'm willing to bet they're sharing that info with players and agents to ease concerns.

Why not share it with the public if it shows what they want it to show? I agree they have no obligation to and our opinions don't matter, but I suspect other teams and players in the league are equally in the dark.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Was a joke that the incompetent took and ran with it

The only incompetent here is Johnny Lynch.

Players should refuse to train until the substation or the training facilities are relocated.

I don't have a copy of their contracts. I am however pretty certain that if they refuse to train, they won't get paid. And right now it sounds as though Lynch has a report from a reputable scientist (why should the team hire any less than a reputable scientist) saying that the training facility is safe. Players under contract can't just turn round and demand that training facilities are moved for no reason. I don't see how you can justify calling Lynch incompetent and I cannot see any way that players can justify refusal to train if they want to keep getting paid. Before any of the conspiracy theory around this can stand, there needs to be some convincing scientific proof that there is a problem. It doesn't have to immediately 100% prove the issue is a problem, but it will have to at least begin to support the theory and possibly justify, at some stage, some form of legal discussion.

We don't know exactly what Lynch's report says or who it is from. And there is no reason why we should. But there are a number of factors about this CT that really don't seem believable. How long have we trained there? In that time, how many players have passed through and how many of them have come down injured in a fashion which is not simply standard and expected football injury?

We all want an explanation of the high level of injury to this team. Unless there is some proof of injuries, though, resulting from proximity to the electric substation, you are just grabbing at thin air.
Originally posted by English:
you are just grabbing at thin air.

But, we are fans of the San Francisco 49ers. We love the act of grabbing at thin air.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by English:
you are just grabbing at thin air.

But, we are fans of the San Francisco 49ers. We love the act of grabbing at thin air.
Don't include others on this lol
It's definitely not drafting and signing players with injury histories or ones built like high schoolers that lead to injury or having one of the oldest rosters in the nfl or giving a player 600 touches or using a WR at RB

it's the power station
Originally posted by RonMexico:
It's definitely not drafting and signing players with injury histories or ones built like high schoolers that lead to injury or having one of the oldest rosters in the nfl or giving a player 600 touches or using a WR at RB

it's the power station
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