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- NinerTy
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- DRCHOWDER
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Originally posted by NinerTy:
Apparently the Niners don't know what to do with a first round pick. Trade this years and next years for Garrett and you have a proven pass rusher who is 30 years old. Start investing in OL to protect your other franchise investment. Start winning some Super Bowls and you will have players in line to join the team.
Did we not just have two guys in FA openly say they took less money so they could play for the 49ers?
- CatchMaster80
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Trading for Garrett might help win a SB but it could also backfire and set the franchise back in their efforts to find good young starters. It's kind of a gamble
- PRIMETIME21
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Garrett is obviously a great player and at 30 he's not washed up. The problem I see is trading potential future starters (draft picks) and then hoping Garrett will help get ths current team to the SB title. If the current roster could stay reasonably healthy that might happen but we have 3 key players coming back from injury. Will they be the same as they were? You never know until they get back on the field. I would feel better about making a trade for Garrett if they had a roster whose best players were a little younger. The Niners key players are all over 30 and they need to start finding young replacements for them.
Trading for Garrett might help win a SB but it could also backfire and set the franchise back in their efforts to find good young starters. It's kind of a gamble
Worth taking , rams did it going all in the year the won it all, and yes we maintained competitive team the last decade or so but what we have to show for it? A big goose egg
- glorydayz
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by WINiner:Isn't serious enough for you because we can't get MG? lol
Originally posted by replikante:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Were they including the prorated signing bonus? Cause without that, since the Browns would have to eat it, his 2027 cap number would be $16,056,775, and 2028 would be $21.383M, his 2029 and 2030 cap hits would be crazy though, $57.993M for both years, his 2026 number would be just $8.14M, only issue I see is by the time his deal is over he'll be nearly 36 leaving $16,434,225 in dead money from his option bonuses that the 49ers or anyone who acquired him would take on from 2026-2028, and I'd have to imagine he'd cost 3 1st's especially if the Raiders were gonna be able to get 2 1sts for Crosby.
I'm not an expert like you but I don't see it as terrific,.... his 2029 and 2030 cap hits would be $62.901M and $57,993M according to OTC,... but the dead money if cut even pre-June 2029 would only be $4,908M,... saving:
- $57,993M in 2029
- $57,993M in 2030
- $16,434M in 2031
so, in reality is a 3-year contract with $23M (2026), $28M (2027) and $30M (2028) cap hit with a very team-friendly opt-out the 4th year with an insignificant cap hit of near $5M,... for a player the superstar level of Myles Garrett is peanuts
and in 2028 he will still be 33,... not in his peak but still could play at a very high level
John Lynch isn't serious enough about winning the chip and needs to be moved out of a personnel/talent evaluation role. He's snake bitten against making big moves cause of the Trey Lance debacle, and due to the awful contracts given to Aiyuk and Deebo. He now performs to not get fired, instead of concentrating on winning. His contracts the last several seasons have been questionable and really hurt us last season despite the success in the face of all that adversity.
Yeah I don't get it either, I don't even see CLE moving him, and if so they're gonna end up wanting/getting a DeShaun Watson type of package of picks, which is outrageous for a 30yr old(soon to be 31yr old) EDGE, despite the fact he's the best EDGE in the NFL, I think that's just too much, also I don't see how his deals have been bad, yes the Aiyuk & Deebo deals didn't work out but they didn't hurt us cap wise, and the deals he has given out have been very team friendly/cap friendly IMO.
30 year old edge who had 23 sacks last season or three more than our entire team put together on consequently the worst team in the league. Teams were designing schemes just to stop him and failed. He's also had at least 14 sacks every season going back to 2021. He's consistent and he's had zero season ending injuries. He may very well be the best edge in the history of the league when he finally retires and that's including LT and White in the conversation. I don't forsee a drop off any time soon and he's certainly healthier than bosa who's already had two seasons derailed with season ending injuries. I'd do it and give them nick if it required.
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
- tankle104
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
- glorydayz
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
I would trade all of this year and next years draft picks. Which would leave us with whatever comp picks we get next year.
I don't think we draft well enough to care about draft picks over a bonafide super star like MG.
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
I would trade all of this year and next years draft picks. Which would leave us with whatever comp picks we get next year.
I don't think we draft well enough to care about draft picks over a bonafide super star like MG.
Good thing you aren't the GM.
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
I would trade all of this year and next years draft picks. Which would leave us with whatever comp picks we get next year.
I don't think we draft well enough to care about draft picks over a bonafide super star like MG.
Lmao
This is worse than any 9moon trade, and that says a lot
- jcs
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
I would trade all of this year and next years draft picks. Which would leave us with whatever comp picks we get next year.
I don't think we draft well enough to care about draft picks over a bonafide super star like MG.
Lmao
This is worse than any 9moon trade, and that says a lot
It's hard to debate the value of those picks to this team when you consider how poorly this team is at utilizing them as of late.
- glorydayz
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So, what would it take to get MG realistically?
Would you guys be okay with 1 first rounders (2026) plus Nick Bosa, for MG.
Question is would the Browns want more than that?
Using previous trades - the closest most realistic one would be Micah parsons and maxx Crosby, parsons was materially younger than Crosby when those trades happened. Micah was 2 firsts and Kenny Pickett. Crosby was just 2 firsts.
it would probably take 2 firsts and maybe a 3rd rounder or second. Myles is 30 but coming off an incredible season.
I don't think trading Bosa makes any sense at all. We would be in a near similar situation before the draft (no second pass rusher) and with less picks.
browns organization is probably the most analytically driven team in the NFL (to a fault, IMO). So they highly value draft picks. Personally, I'd try to trade this year and nexts years first, then maybe a 2nd or 3rd. Possibly an extra fifth. Something like that but try to spread it out.
As long as we keep our later round draft picks. I think we will be fine. It would suck to lose that young talent from the draft but we've essentially built this team without them (except a couple players).
I would trade all of this year and next years draft picks. Which would leave us with whatever comp picks we get next year.
I don't think we draft well enough to care about draft picks over a bonafide super star like MG.
Good thing you aren't the GM.
I would be the first GM that has to field a team with two superstars and 51 udfa's due to salary cap mismanagement LOL
- braap49er
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The 49ers are adding three more physical therapists to their training staff and upgrading the training facilities. They are spending $9M to improve rehab and recovery facilities, particularly in hydro areas, per John Lynch
— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) March 29, 2026
via: @nwagoner pic.twitter.com/dnaw9iZZAn
i am happy with this.
- Jcool
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#49ers GM John Lynch was asked by reporters for an update on the electrical substation and whether it has any relation to their recent injuries:
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 29, 2026
"We did hire an independent scientist. He basically said it was a big nothing burger. We're safe. We're in a safe place to work." pic.twitter.com/bLjN9KNjNn
- Heroism
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Originally posted by braap49er:
The 49ers are adding three more physical therapists to their training staff and upgrading the training facilities. They are spending $9M to improve rehab and recovery facilities, particularly in hydro areas, per John Lynch
— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) March 29, 2026
via: @nwagoner pic.twitter.com/dnaw9iZZAn
i am happy with this.
- the_dynasty
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first, Cleveland would want a ton of picks. Second, they wouldnt want a player in return, especially not an expensive player. The point of trading a star player for picks is to get younger and cheaper. Bosa commands a huge salary and is just coming off a torn ACL....
but most importantly, Cleveland has to want to move off Garrett. There is no indication they're willing to besides wishful thinking on the fans part here.