John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Lynch keeps getting schooled by other gms in the division

What exactly does this move have to do with Lynch? Rams had a CLEAR weakness on their roster and trying to milk everything they can out of their roster before Matt Stafford hangs it up. It was a smart move for them.

It was not a smart move for the 49ers.

Other teams wheel and deal in trades. Getting better. We are sitting still and doing nothing in the offseason. As usual....

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Other teams wheel and deal in trades. Getting better. We are sitting still and doing nothing in the offseason. As usual....

As usual

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Other teams wheel and deal in trades. Getting better. We are sitting still and doing nothing in the offseason. As usual....

And just who do you tgink the Niners should be going after? What do they have to trade? They may sign a free agent or two but it's not a great free agent group.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
>>>f i were Lynch i would trade some of the mid round picks for proven quality players

Well, in that case I am very happy that you are not Lynch. Trading draft picks for veterans is not going to work....we need to get younger, cheaper, and hungrier. We need to build through the draft for the most part to do that, not trade away our picks.

Good teams do a mixture. I'm not saying trade every pick away. We have three 4ths.

Go look at any draft class from any team from 2010-2023. You'd be hard pressed to find teams that hit on their mid round picks consistently. Here i will do it for you, lets look at the Eagles since everyone thinks their GM is great. Here is a list of their 4th round picks from 2010-2023

Trevard Lindley
Keenan Clayton
Mike Kafka
Clay Harbor
Casey Matthews
Alex Henery
Brandon Boykin
Matt Barkley
Jaylen Watkins
Mack Hollins
Donnel Pumphrey
Avonte Maddox
Josh Sweat
Shareef Miller
K'Von Wallace
Jack Driscoll
Zech McPhearson
Kelee Ringo

I see maybe 2 or 3 guys that actually panned out. Meanwhile guys like Amari Cooper, Deandre Hopkins, Joe Thuney, Jacobi Meyers, Keenan Allen, Ernest Jones were all traded for 4th round picks. So tell me again why you'd rather have that 4th rounder?

>>So tell me again why you'd rather have that 4th rounder?

Because accepted consensus is that successful teams primarily build through the draft, by getting cheap young talent. You don't have to take my word for it.....just search it on Google. I didn't suggest that we never trade, but that is most successful when a team is close to being a serious SB contender. During a rebuild I want the focus to be on cheaper and younger. I agree that no-one hits on every pick, but building primarily through the draft is the right move, especially at this time. We need youth, we need speed, we need to not keep paying too much $ on expensive vets which keep the younger players from seeing the field.

Would bringing in expensive vets make us better right now.....probably. Would it make us a strong contender like Seattle was and will be for the next few years because of good drafting, a mix of good free agents, and a young core for the next few years, no, that won't be us by trading too much draft capital at this stage.

A few really successful 4th round picks Marvin Harrison Jr, Sauce Gardner, Kyle Pitts, Denzel Ward, Ezekiel Elliot, Amari Cooper....I mean they are out there in every round right, we just gotta hit on a few more of them.

That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

Exactly. I think unfortunately it's a really good for the Rams. Their top need was easy to spot - CB. They grabbed a proven one in the NFL who is still young.

Thing is, they have to pay him now and they better hope a change in scheme doesn't mess with his play. You also had some people saying he regressed last year so time will tell how well this works out for the Rams.

Regardless nobody here should be b***hing that the 49ers didn't make this move.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

They had 2 first round picks and they gve up the lower of the 2. A 3rd rounder in 2027 is likely to be near or att he end of the draft so that's not much different than a high 4th rounder. 5th and 6th this year is no big deal. So they filled their biggest weakness with the 29th overall pick and he's not a draft pick. He's an NFL pro bowler. Good trade for the Rams.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

They had 2 first round picks and they gve up the lower of the 2. A 3rd rounder in 2027 is likely to be near or att he end of the draft so that's not much different than a high 4th rounder. 5th and 6th this year is no big deal. So they filled their biggest weakness with the 29th overall pick and he's not a draft pick. He's an NFL pro bowler. Good trade for the Rams.

LMAO you literally just minimized every asset the Rams gave up for McDuffie. I mean by your logic, the Rams got him for free 😆

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
LMAO you literally just minimized every asset the Rams gave up for McDuffie. I mean by your logic, the Rams got him for free 😆

Like Les says not waiting for draft dreams. He's right. Lynch we need to make some moves.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

They had 2 first round picks and they gve up the lower of the 2. A 3rd rounder in 2027 is likely to be near or att he end of the draft so that's not much different than a high 4th rounder. 5th and 6th this year is no big deal. So they filled their biggest weakness with the 29th overall pick and he's not a draft pick. He's an NFL pro bowler. Good trade for the Rams.

LMAO you literally just minimized every asset the Rams gave up for McDuffie. I mean by your logic, the Rams got him for free 😆

You're both right. They had two first round picks and got a great player at a position of need with a team thats in WIN NOW mode with Staffords age.

Chiefs are going to reload.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
That's a lot of capital to give up for a CB. If we did that people would be going after Lynch's head, even if our roster was comparable to the Rams. Risky move

They had 2 first round picks and they gve up the lower of the 2. A 3rd rounder in 2027 is likely to be near or att he end of the draft so that's not much different than a high 4th rounder. 5th and 6th this year is no big deal. So they filled their biggest weakness with the 29th overall pick and he's not a draft pick. He's an NFL pro bowler. Good trade for the Rams.

LMAO you literally just minimized every asset the Rams gave up for McDuffie. I mean by your logic, the Rams got him for free 😆

Whether they gave up a lot or stole him will be evident in a couple of years and not now.

If he joins the Rams and shuts down his side of the field as they win a SB or several he's a steal.
If he can't stay on the field cuz of injury or simply doesn't play well in their scheme or is even just mediocre then obviously they would've given up too much as they'll also have to pay him top $.

Time will tell.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Lynch keeps getting schooled by other gms in the division

What exactly does this move have to do with Lynch? Rams had a CLEAR weakness on their roster and trying to milk everything they can out of their roster before Matt Stafford hangs it up. It was a smart move for them.

It was not a smart move for the 49ers.

Lynch not doing s**t or continually making the wrong move, seems like rams and Seahawks are always one step ahead of us, he lost his backbone, we need to be getting better and he ain't doing s**t, the mcduffie move was great, niners need to do 2-3 trades like this

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
LMAO you literally just minimized every asset the Rams gave up for McDuffie. I mean by your logic, the Rams got him for free 😆

Like Les says not waiting for draft dreams. He's right. Lynch we need to make some moves.

Honestly, if they're not gonna move on from Trent Williams, then Lynch needs to go all in before Trent Williams retires and before they move on from CMC . What I mean by all in is, move on from Brendel, spend money on the LG position. Make moves at WR like a trade AND sign Romeo Doubs, and I ain't talking about bringing in old ass WR's like Mike Evans or Deebo. Sign a RB or at least give Isaac Guerendo a shot at being #2, he tore up Seattle his rookie season.

It's the Lance trade or Russell Wilson trade again but with lower risk. But the risk still exists. Anytime you trade multiple mid to high value assets for one potentially high value asset, you run the risk of your trade bombing if that asset you are getting gets injured or underperforms. Outside of the Stafford and CMC trades, I can't think of a similar trade like this that worked out in recent years.