John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

On what Koldo's grading scale?

Who does draft grades after one season?

That's the new metrics. They used to wait 2 or even 3 years before evaluating a draft. Now they want instant success.

While Lynch deserves criticism for many draft picks, he has been quite good at engineering trades when unexpected opportunities arise (CMC, TWill). This year you have Maxx Crosby and a WR-needy Raiders team that just might want to take a chance on Aiyuk. I could see something like:

Raiders get

• Brandon Aiyuk
• Pick #27
• 2027 1st Round Pick

49ers get

• Maxx Crosby
• Pick #124

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
So Shanahan wanted Jones, and Lynch talked him out of it.

I just find this so hard to believe.

If it's true Lynch would've been fired by now already (or at least stripped of his GM role).

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/mac-jones-kyle-shanahan-nfl-draft/1915576/

So who should get fired, if Mac Jones confirmed Shanahan wanted him.

I don't think our GM who played Safety, is overly involved in the QB drafting strategy with KS as the head coach.

Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
While Lynch deserves criticism for many draft picks, he has been quite good at engineering trades when unexpected opportunities arise (CMC, TWill). This year you have Maxx Crosby and a WR-needy Raiders team that just might want to take a chance on Aiyuk. I could see something like:

Raiders get

• Brandon Aiyuk
• Pick #27
• 2027 1st Round Pick

49ers get

• Maxx Crosby
• Pick #124

If a team wants Aiyuk, go for it. Cap-wise I don't believe there's a benefit to cut vs. trade for his particular contract but if the Raiders want him then so be it.

If we're to make a blockbuster trade for Maxx, I think Huff would be the player we trade, not Aiyuk.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

I know you try to see the worst in everything, but think about it for a second. You lose the first and third round pick to injury. I wonder if that would affect the draft grade, d'yer think?

When you look at how we've done with our 1st and 3rd round picks over the years, you would think eliminating those two picks from the equation would actually help our rating.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
So Shanahan wanted Jones, and Lynch talked him out of it.

I just find this so hard to believe.

If it's true Lynch would've been fired by now already (or at least stripped of his GM role).

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/mac-jones-kyle-shanahan-nfl-draft/1915576/

So who should get fired, if Mac Jones confirmed Shanahan wanted him.

I don't think our GM who played Safety, is overly involved in the QB drafting strategy with KS as the head coach.

It's beyond hilarious at this point.

There is literally zero tangible evidence that we were ever "set" on drafting Mac. Ever. The media simply ran with the idea that we were drafting Mac hours after we made the trade and it got fabricated into fact in everyone's minds.

The media got it completely wrong and still five years later they're trying to save face. "Well they WERE going to draft Mac but THEN…" says who? Who says we were ever going to draft Mac besides you (the media)?

The media gets it so consistently wrong with this team. As someone who follows this team so closely it's actually kind of funny.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

I know you try to see the worst in everything, but think about it for a second. You lose the first and third round pick to injury. I wonder if that would affect the draft grade, d'yer think?

When you look at how we've done with our 1st and 3rd round picks over the years, you would think eliminating those two picks from the equation would actually help our rating.

I mean tbf… this team DID eliminate a decent chunk of its 1st round picks with the Trey Lance trade, and that's a massive reason why the 2022-2023 drafts outside of Brock are so underwhelming.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
So Shanahan wanted Jones, and Lynch talked him out of it.

I just find this so hard to believe.

If it's true Lynch would've been fired by now already (or at least stripped of his GM role).

I could not find the information but I believe in the off-season there were some front office role changes that affected Lynch and Shanahan's role in choosing players. These changes were probably to address the Trey/Mac debacle and try to avoid similar events in the future. Obviously Lynch was not fired so it sounds like both men see partnership as being the best option at this point.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

I know you try to see the worst in everything, but think about it for a second. You lose the first and third round pick to injury. I wonder if that would affect the draft grade, d'yer think?

When you look at how we've done with our 1st and 3rd round picks over the years, you would think eliminating those two picks from the equation would actually help our rating.

I mean tbf… this team DID eliminate a decent chunk of its 1st round picks with the Trey Lance trade, and that's a massive reason why the 2022-2023 drafts outside of Brock are so underwhelming.

I hear you but which of our drafts (when considering rounds 1-3) were overwhelming in the past 10 years?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

I know you try to see the worst in everything, but think about it for a second. You lose the first and third round pick to injury. I wonder if that would affect the draft grade, d'yer think?

When you look at how we've done with our 1st and 3rd round picks over the years, you would think eliminating those two picks from the equation would actually help our rating.

I mean tbf… this team DID eliminate a decent chunk of its 1st round picks with the Trey Lance trade, and that's a massive reason why the 2022-2023 drafts outside of Brock are so underwhelming.

I hear you but which of our drafts (when considering rounds 1-3) were overwhelming in the past 10 years?

Define "overwhelming"

2019 (multiple All-Pros) has to be considered as such, and there are not many drafts like that around the league, period.

For other drafts it depends on your definition—it was a matter of either finding the one cornerstone piece (Kittle in 2017, Warner in 2018, etc.) or finding one key player and a collection of contributors (Lenoir and a bunch of 2026 4th round comp picks in 2021–yes that is a successful draft!) all of which can be considered successful drafts. Heck some might consider 2022 a successful draft (I don't because Brock could've easily been a UDFA).

I'm not going to pretend this team is perfect at drafting (Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas, Latu, Moody), but literally no team is. Some consider a draft like the 2000 Patriots (Tom Brady and a bunch of garbage) to be just as successful as the 2012 Seahawks, for example.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:
49ers 2025 draft class got one of the lowest grades in the NFL.

Future looks bright.

I know you try to see the worst in everything, but think about it for a second. You lose the first and third round pick to injury. I wonder if that would affect the draft grade, d'yer think?

When you look at how we've done with our 1st and 3rd round picks over the years, you would think eliminating those two picks from the equation would actually help our rating.

I mean tbf… this team DID eliminate a decent chunk of its 1st round picks with the Trey Lance trade, and that's a massive reason why the 2022-2023 drafts outside of Brock are so underwhelming.

I hear you but which of our drafts (when considering rounds 1-3) were overwhelming in the past 10 years?

Define "overwhelming"

2019 (multiple All-Pros) has to be considered as such, and there are not many drafts like that around the league, period.

For other drafts it depends on your definition—it was a matter of either finding the one cornerstone piece (Kittle in 2017, Warner in 2018, etc.) or finding one key player and a collection of contributors (Lenoir and a bunch of 2026 4th round comp picks in 2021–yes that is a successful draft!) all of which can be considered successful drafts. Heck some might consider 2022 a successful draft (I don't because Brock could've easily been a UDFA).

I'm not going to pretend this team is perfect at drafting (Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas, Latu, Moody), but literally no team is. Some consider a draft like the 2000 Patriots (Tom Brady and a bunch of garbage) to be just as successful as the 2012 Seahawks, for example.

Great post, I'm also not buying the "we are always bad at drafting" narrative either but I would be blind to say that we are good at drafting in the first 3 rounds. Bosa fell to us at #2, while we also squandered top 3 picks in multiple drafts (Thomas/Lance).

With that said, I don't want to blast our drafting strategy or anything like that, I just want to point out that we have to balance our ability to build through the draft as well as trades and free agency. Every team has to do this but I don't really care about what other teams are doing.

We should simply dust off some of the Bill Walsh concepts (system specific) when it comes to building a team through the draft.

Positives:

Trades: Trent Williams & CMC

Denver just built an incredible defense using guys we lost via free agency

If we can put it all together Draft/FA/Trades, we will be fine.

The only trade involving our first round picks i would tolerate would be for Justin Jefferson. In no way should we be giving up that much for anyone else, including Crosby.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
So Shanahan wanted Jones, and Lynch talked him out of it.

I just find this so hard to believe.

If it's true Lynch would've been fired by now already (or at least stripped of his GM role).

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/mac-jones-kyle-shanahan-nfl-draft/1915576/

So who should get fired, if Mac Jones confirmed Shanahan wanted him.

I don't think our GM who played Safety, is overly involved in the QB drafting strategy with KS as the head coach.

guy responsible maybe already gone. though everyone is guilty imo

I see that Luke Gifford is a free agent. He got a Pro-Bowl nod as a special team's guy but wasn't all that hot as a LB from what little I could see. I'd just as soon let him walk and give Wallow a chance. He plays special teams and led the team in tackles during one of his brief appearances, something I don't think Luke Gifford ever did, plus he's younger

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
The only trade involving our first round picks i would tolerate would be for Justin Jefferson. In no way should we be giving up that much for anyone else, including Crosby.

I agree
Crosby has a lot of wear and tear, has played through injuries - it's too risky given his cap hit and our history with injuries
and we're already paying Bosa

Jefferson would completely change our offense, and he's only 26
his contract would basically be what we would've been paying Aiyuk (or at least in the same ballpark)