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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Let the draft come to you. Definitely this regime biggest issue

They even tried trading up for Mykel last year

Don't know what to believe though, there were rumblings they were actually looking to come up for McMillan.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Let the draft come to you. Definitely this regime biggest issue

They even tried trading up for Mykel last year

Don't know what to believe though, there were rumblings they were actually looking to come up for McMillan.

First time I've ever heard of this.
ESPN just did one of those redrafting the 2025 NFL draft articles where the author uses hindsight to reselect the draft.

While I dont really agree with who they said we should have taken at 11 instead of Mykel Williams, I do find it quite interesting that in this exercise, Mykel fell out of the first round entirely to 38.

We will see how his career pans out, but man we sure have a history of missing with out top half of the first round picks.
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Let the draft come to you. Definitely this regime biggest issue

They even tried trading up for Mykel last year

Don't know what to believe though, there were rumblings they were actually looking to come up for McMillan.

First time I've ever heard of this.

The article I just spoke about says we had strong interest, but he was off the board at 11. No mention of trading up for him.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Fasteddy:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

The majority of those guys ended up getting good sized deals that the 49ers weren't and shouldn't have given out, they weren't keeping guys who are backups and signing them to $10M+ a yr deals that makes zero sense, that's how you ruin your salary cap, by overpaying players who aren't worth the money, plus the fact is Deebo & Hargrave were overpaid already so they were cut, Collins we probably shouldn't had released, Ward wasn't coming back after what happened to his daughter, plus he admitted he gave up during that season, Dre was offered more but wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here with Warner here, plus he only played in 8 games this season, Mason is a dime a dozen RB IMO, same with Mostert & Mitchell, who I believe was released not long ago, Armstead wouldn't take a pay cut, so they cut him, Omenihu & Ebukam got $10M+ a yr deals, those weren't happening, Azzezz got a good sized deal as well when we had Dre, we weren't paying 3 LBs $10M+ a yr, Hufanga is a good Safety but is just as bad in coverage as Mustapha & Brown are, not trying to make excuses but you can't just keep everyone and still have 1. a balanced roster, and 2. a healthy salary cap cause the majority of those guys got $10M+ a yr, they can't afford that many, maybe 10-12 max, not 20, just not feasible, even if the cap can be manipulated eventually it catches up, looks at the Saints who had to redo every deal for like 5 yrs in a row.

You are just aplogizing for FO decisions.

We should have paid ward, azeez, omenihu, mason, collins and kissed and made up with raheem.

try to sign greenlaw to an incentive contract due to injury history.

Ward quit because we told him we weren't extending him. He was shocked. He made a business decision to stay healthy for 2025.

I know there's a medical history war here, but Mostert was the most gifted OZ runner that shanny had since Morris. Just look at raheem 2018 2019 highlights. Why we treated him like a special teamer we could nickel and dime I have no idea. Horrid talent evaluation. Also Mason >>>>>Robinson. Another mistake. For a few million bucks more? The salary cap is 305m next year. I think there's room. Mason would have eaten into cmc's numbers....but that's a good thing right? We get more cmc in 2026.

POoint is that we can't extend everybody but to keep continuity and performance we need to extend some people who are GOOD PLAYERS. We have a very different defense this year with charvy (77/458 snaps), omenihu(62/567 snaps/5sacks), azeez (71/926snaps), and collins(74/546/8 sacks) in the mix.

We need to be comfortable pulling the trigger on mid range contracts to supplement our star players. Not just say it's all eaten up by the bosa's and the Williams'

Just cause the salary cap is $305M doesn't mean we could just keep all of those players, 5 of them make $10M+ a yr, add into the ones we have ow we just couldn't afford to have those 5 plus what we have and have a balanced roster, just not feasible, you can only pay so many players I that $10M+ a yr range, also we weren't signing 3 RBs to the kind of money they all got, same for 3 LBs at $10M+ a yr, and Dre wasn't taking an incentive laden deal, he wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here and we offered him more and he chose Denver, as for Ward we chose DMo, I have no issue with it, plus Ward was injured this season, even if he may have not been with us, he wasn't gonna be extended, again you can't keep everyone, just not doable, the cap can only hold so much.

And I'm not making excuses, I'm trying to make people realize that you can't keep everyone, sometimes you need to let players go, just how it is, every team does it every year.

ok. I get it.

Remind me again, who are our $10m players?

The only guys who come to mind are McKivitz and lenoir.

Demo is getting 15m. His numbers this year were 60/1024snaps/104 passer rating.

Here's the breakdown. You can filter by year:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/cap

It's difficult to answer your question considering cap number, base, bonus, etc. What's really interesting is what year the team processes through dead cap values, for ex. Brock at $100M in 2025.

Agree with AB81, it would be very difficult to keep everyone (of course). I thought the team did a nice job cleaning up last offseason. There were some guys who would have been wonderful to have - Dre, Aziz, Hufanga to name a couple - but they were pricey or wanted something different than the team could give.

And I said $10M+ a yr, the 49ers have the following making $10M or more a year.

Brock at $53M
Bosa at $34M
Aiyuk at $30M
Trent at $27.5M
Warner at $21M
Kittle at $19.1M
CMC at $19M
DMo at $17.96M
McKivitz at $15M

That's 9 already, yes you can take away Aiyuk as he'll be gone, but then he wants to add in 5 more, that's 13, not to mention that everyone wants the 49ers to add more high priced players every year, again the cap can only hold so much before you end up in cap hell, again I'm not making excuses, I wish we could just sign everyone, but this isn't Madden, and you can't turn the salary cap off, the fact is, you can only really have 11-12 players making that kind of money.

Good info as always. What folks forget about the cap rising is ...players deals inflate along with it.

I wonder....20 years ago what was the cap?.. and what were the average percentages of each position against the cap. I bet its similar for most positions which means.... same ole' sh.... lol
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Got to go. I can't watch this complete CLOWN screw up yet another draft. We are unfortunately stuck with Shany for now at least. Getting rid of Lynch is the best you can hope for. Literally no reason to keep. Is he really good at the draft, free agency, trades, dead cap money, internal extensions? You know like HIS JOB. If not why do we keep him?


Once again…can't draft, can't handle the cap, bad in free agency and trades.

How have we even managed to win a playoff game this whole tenure…let alone get deep in the playoffs?

Like are you guys for real? Impossible to have legit discussions about real issues with the team when you make irrational takes like that.

And how many Championships would we have if this regime wouldn't have blown so many picks or made a few better roster decisions.

Contrary to what you believe you can be a 49er fan and criticize what they have done and at the same time give them credit for what they have done. You don't need to take a side and dig in and defend them at all cost no questions asked.

But again, are you Ok with just winning playoff games and then going deep in the playoffs and never winning a SB?

Because that is all this regime has shown what they can do. That's a fact. They can do better and if this is all they can offer then we can find someone else who can get the job done.
[ Edited by Sask49erFan on Feb 3, 2026 at 3:08 PM ]
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
ESPN just did one of those redrafting the 2025 NFL draft articles where the author uses hindsight to reselect the draft.

While I dont really agree with who they said we should have taken at 11 instead of Mykel Williams, I do find it quite interesting that in this exercise, Mykel fell out of the first round entirely to 38.

We will see how his career pans out, but man we sure have a history of missing with out top half of the first round picks.

Even a 2nd round pick seems rich for Williams.

He's the kind of talent you invest a 4th rounder in.
York seems to be putting it on Lynch to fix the injuries.

https://x.com/i/status/2018759522286793020
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
York seems to be putting it on Lynch to fix the injuries.


Seems to me that all Jed is really doing here is blowing off the substation theory in his usual douchey style.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
ESPN just did one of those redrafting the 2025 NFL draft articles where the author uses hindsight to reselect the draft.

While I dont really agree with who they said we should have taken at 11 instead of Mykel Williams, I do find it quite interesting that in this exercise, Mykel fell out of the first round entirely to 38.

We will see how his career pans out, but man we sure have a history of missing with out top half of the first round picks.

Even a 2nd round pick seems rich for Williams.

He's the kind of talent you invest a 4th rounder in.

lol. way too many stats showing the 21 year old wippasnappa double teamed and a target of opposition blocking schemes.

BUT HE DONT HAVE NO SACKS!!!!

lol.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
ESPN just did one of those redrafting the 2025 NFL draft articles where the author uses hindsight to reselect the draft.

While I dont really agree with who they said we should have taken at 11 instead of Mykel Williams, I do find it quite interesting that in this exercise, Mykel fell out of the first round entirely to 38.

We will see how his career pans out, but man we sure have a history of missing with out top half of the first round picks.

Even a 2nd round pick seems rich for Williams.

He's the kind of talent you invest a 4th rounder in.

Never change…
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And how many Championships would we have if this regime wouldn't have blown so many picks or made a few better roster decisions.

Contrary to what you believe you can be a 49er fan and criticize what they have done and at the same time give them credit for what they have done. You don't need to take a side and dig in and defend them at all cost no questions asked.

But again, are you Ok with just winning playoff games and then going deep in the playoffs and never winning a SB?

Because that is all this regime has shown what they can do. That's a fact. They can do better and if this is all they can offer then we can find someone else who can get the job done.

When you gonna start that part?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And how many Championships would we have if this regime wouldn't have blown so many picks or made a few better roster decisions.

Contrary to what you believe you can be a 49er fan and criticize what they have done and at the same time give them credit for what they have done. You don't need to take a side and dig in and defend them at all cost no questions asked.

But again, are you Ok with just winning playoff games and then going deep in the playoffs and never winning a SB?

Because that is all this regime has shown what they can do. That's a fact. They can do better and if this is all they can offer then we can find someone else who can get the job done.

When you gonna start that part?

I have given Shanahan and Lynch plenty of credit for coming in 2nd place and almost winning the SB. But that's not good enough and at the end of the day means nothing. No-one remembers the 2nd place team.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
ESPN just did one of those redrafting the 2025 NFL draft articles where the author uses hindsight to reselect the draft.

While I dont really agree with who they said we should have taken at 11 instead of Mykel Williams, I do find it quite interesting that in this exercise, Mykel fell out of the first round entirely to 38.

We will see how his career pans out, but man we sure have a history of missing with out top half of the first round picks.

Even a 2nd round pick seems rich for Williams.

He's the kind of talent you invest a 4th rounder in.

DT Walter Nolen who everyone says we should have taken instead of Williams was redrafted at 49
Originally posted by Koldo:
Even a 2nd round pick seems rich for Williams.

He's the kind of talent you invest a 4th rounder in.

And this observation is based on what? Half a season's worth of games in his rookie year? There are statistics out there that show the 49ers run defense dropped off a lot after he went down with the ACL tear. His job also became more difficult after Bosa went down, as did Bryce Huff's as did all of the rest of the lines. As someone else pointed out he often drew double teams. Next year, Collins and West will have more experience, including a playoff game, and another offseason to improve their strength and technique. There will be a new defensive coordinator with an attacking style that may be even more aggressive than Saleh's. If Williams and Bosa come back healthy and the team can find a good, disruptive tackle on the inside, I would expect to see a marked improvement in this unit's play.
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