John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Mustapha isn't reliable. Can't cover and is a questionable tackler.

Mustapha is what I expect out of a 4th rounder: decent depth. He's fine. Should not be starting.

So, for where he was picked, I think it was a decent pick. Him having to start is another discussion. If you get a good starter in the 4th at any position that's a home run. He's not a good starter so this was t a home run pick but he isn't worthless either

Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

i think we are pretty average in drafting

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

Cohn has his own agenda, but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Lynch moved up to President of Football Operations, or some other title and bringing in some fresh blood at the GM spot.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

We are 1 or 2 bad drafts away from our players buying their Cancun tickets in November instead of Jan/Feb.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

We are 1 or 2 bad drafts away from our players buying their Cancun tickets in November instead of Jan/Feb.

we may have also be 1 good draft away from being the hands down best team. We were 1 win away from being the #1 seed despite losing starters left and right you cant have that type of production without some decent depth

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

We are 1 or 2 bad drafts away from our players buying their Cancun tickets in November instead of Jan/Feb.

we may have also be 1 good draft away from being the hands down best team. We were 1 win away from being the #1 seed despite losing starters left and right you cant have that type of production without some decent depth

I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

I think our drafts have been a mixed bag, trending towards below average but not worst in the league.

My biggest issue is how many extra picks we got over the years for Saleh/demeco/others and just completely flushed them down the toilet with terrible picks (latu, gray, tdp, sermon, etc).

I think it's unrealistic to expect every pick to hit but damn it seems we literally got zero from a significant amount of those 2nd - 4ths over the years

Bill Belichick's drafts haven't been the best either. But as long as he had Ton Brady by his side, no one really noticed. I think as long as we have Shanahan and Brock Purdy the 9ers will always be competitive. Sure we won't go to the Super Bowl every season but we also won't be crap every season too.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Grant Cohn posted this article LINK over at SI. He states that the 49ers have a drafting problem with Lynch leading the draft and gives his examples. What are others thoughts on this? I am very cautious about Lynch drafting. He has made some wonderful additions via trades for the Niners but I tend to agree his drafting hasn't been great, and I believe this draft and next year's draft will be critical to the returning to elite competition both in the division and for a Super Bowl. I'd like to hear what others think.

I think our drafts have been a mixed bag, trending towards below average but not worst in the league.

My biggest issue is how many extra picks we got over the years for Saleh/demeco/others and just completely flushed them down the toilet with terrible picks (latu, gray, tdp, sermon, etc).

I think it's unrealistic to expect every pick to hit but damn it seems we literally got zero from a significant amount of those 2nd - 4ths over the years

This is about right where I am too.

Rams/Seahawks have just been a little bit better drafting in the last 2 years.
(Although niners last class might be pretty good. hoping collins comes back strong.)

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

The list of individuals highlighted above shows that the niners have drafted and developed talent well. Other teams heavily rewarded several ex Niner players last offseason. Jaylon Moore received a deal around $30M from the chiefs, not to mentioned Hufanga, Greenlaw, Aziz, etc deals. The team had to reset their cap situation. I was impressed with how the niners performed last year given all the injuries and talent attrition.

All that said, the group is correct. The next couple drafts, and especially 2026's draft, are very important. The team needs linemen, at least 2 Oline dudes. And a lot of key depth. Lynch has been adept at making smart FA moves (mostly successful with some whiffs as well) - the team could use a couple really solid pieces on that front this offseason. They appear to have the capital to do it.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

The majority of those guys ended up getting good sized deals that the 49ers weren't and shouldn't have given out, they weren't keeping guys who are backups and signing them to $10M+ a yr deals that makes zero sense, that's how you ruin your salary cap, by overpaying players who aren't worth the money, plus the fact is Deebo & Hargrave were overpaid already so they were cut, Collins we probably shouldn't had released, Ward wasn't coming back after what happened to his daughter, plus he admitted he gave up during that season, Dre was offered more but wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here with Warner here, plus he only played in 8 games this season, Mason is a dime a dozen RB IMO, same with Mostert & Mitchell, who I believe was released not long ago, Armstead wouldn't take a pay cut, so they cut him, Omenihu & Ebukam got $10M+ a yr deals, those weren't happening, Azzezz got a good sized deal as well when we had Dre, we weren't paying 3 LBs $10M+ a yr, Hufanga is a good Safety but is just as bad in coverage as Mustapha & Brown are, not trying to make excuses but you can't just keep everyone and still have 1. a balanced roster, and 2. a healthy salary cap cause the majority of those guys got $10M+ a yr, they can't afford that many, maybe 10-12 max, not 20, just not feasible, even if the cap can be manipulated eventually it catches up, looks at the Saints who had to redo every deal for like 5 yrs in a row.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

The majority of those guys ended up getting good sized deals that the 49ers weren't and shouldn't have given out, they weren't keeping guys who are backups and signing them to $10M+ a yr deals that makes zero sense, that's how you ruin your salary cap, by overpaying players who aren't worth the money, plus the fact is Deebo & Hargrave were overpaid already so they were cut, Collins we probably shouldn't had released, Ward wasn't coming back after what happened to his daughter, plus he admitted he gave up during that season, Dre was offered more but wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here with Warner here, plus he only played in 8 games this season, Mason is a dime a dozen RB IMO, same with Mostert & Mitchell, who I believe was released not long ago, Armstead wouldn't take a pay cut, so they cut him, Omenihu & Ebukam got $10M+ a yr deals, those weren't happening, Azzezz got a good sized deal as well when we had Dre, we weren't paying 3 LBs $10M+ a yr, Hufanga is a good Safety but is just as bad in coverage as Mustapha & Brown are, not trying to make excuses but you can't just keep everyone and still have 1. a balanced roster, and 2. a healthy salary cap cause the majority of those guys got $10M+ a yr, they can't afford that many, maybe 10-12 max, not 20, just not feasible, even if the cap can be manipulated eventually it catches up, looks at the Saints who had to redo every deal for like 5 yrs in a row.

You are just aplogizing for FO decisions.

We should have paid ward, azeez, omenihu, mason, collins and kissed and made up with raheem.

try to sign greenlaw to an incentive contract due to injury history.

Ward quit because we told him we weren't extending him. He was shocked. He made a business decision to stay healthy for 2025.

I know there's a medical history war here, but Mostert was the most gifted OZ runner that shanny had since Morris. Just look at raheem 2018 2019 highlights. Why we treated him like a special teamer we could nickel and dime I have no idea. Horrid talent evaluation. Also Mason >>>>>Robinson. Another mistake. For a few million bucks more? The salary cap is 305m next year. I think there's room. Mason would have eaten into cmc's numbers....but that's a good thing right? We get more cmc in 2026.

POoint is that we can't extend everybody but to keep continuity and performance we need to extend some people who are GOOD PLAYERS. We have a very different defense this year with charvy (77/458 snaps), omenihu(62/567 snaps/5sacks), azeez (71/926snaps), and collins(74/546/8 sacks) in the mix.

We need to be comfortable pulling the trigger on mid range contracts to supplement our star players. Not just say it's all eaten up by the bosa's and the Williams'

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think time will tell ..... if we see the players who stepped up continually get better and succeed here and other places , I will admit I was being too hard on Lynch.

my guess is this coaching staff was lights out scheme wise and with locker room culture .

i would love to be wrong in regards to our depth not be solid .

We trade away our depth or let it walk in fa.

Deebo, charvy, mason, hufanga, collins, hargrave, greenlaw, aziz, if you wanna go back farther omenihu, ebukam, mostert, wilson, mitchell, armstead.

Im not naming guys like mcg, banks, buckner, jimmy who were paid top dollar to go elsewhere. I am only counting affordable or semi affordable guys.

The majority of those guys ended up getting good sized deals that the 49ers weren't and shouldn't have given out, they weren't keeping guys who are backups and signing them to $10M+ a yr deals that makes zero sense, that's how you ruin your salary cap, by overpaying players who aren't worth the money, plus the fact is Deebo & Hargrave were overpaid already so they were cut, Collins we probably shouldn't had released, Ward wasn't coming back after what happened to his daughter, plus he admitted he gave up during that season, Dre was offered more but wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here with Warner here, plus he only played in 8 games this season, Mason is a dime a dozen RB IMO, same with Mostert & Mitchell, who I believe was released not long ago, Armstead wouldn't take a pay cut, so they cut him, Omenihu & Ebukam got $10M+ a yr deals, those weren't happening, Azzezz got a good sized deal as well when we had Dre, we weren't paying 3 LBs $10M+ a yr, Hufanga is a good Safety but is just as bad in coverage as Mustapha & Brown are, not trying to make excuses but you can't just keep everyone and still have 1. a balanced roster, and 2. a healthy salary cap cause the majority of those guys got $10M+ a yr, they can't afford that many, maybe 10-12 max, not 20, just not feasible, even if the cap can be manipulated eventually it catches up, looks at the Saints who had to redo every deal for like 5 yrs in a row.

You are just aplogizing for FO decisions.

We should have paid ward, azeez, omenihu, mason, collins and kissed and made up with raheem.

try to sign greenlaw to an incentive contract due to injury history.

Ward quit because we told him we weren't extending him. He was shocked. He made a business decision to stay healthy for 2025.

I know there's a medical history war here, but Mostert was the most gifted OZ runner that shanny had since Morris. Just look at raheem 2018 2019 highlights. Why we treated him like a special teamer we could nickel and dime I have no idea. Horrid talent evaluation. Also Mason >>>>>Robinson. Another mistake. For a few million bucks more? The salary cap is 305m next year. I think there's room. Mason would have eaten into cmc's numbers....but that's a good thing right? We get more cmc in 2026.

POoint is that we can't extend everybody but to keep continuity and performance we need to extend some people who are GOOD PLAYERS. We have a very different defense this year with charvy (77/458 snaps), omenihu(62/567 snaps/5sacks), azeez (71/926snaps), and collins(74/546/8 sacks) in the mix.

We need to be comfortable pulling the trigger on mid range contracts to supplement our star players. Not just say it's all eaten up by the bosa's and the Williams'

Just cause the salary cap is $305M doesn't mean we could just keep all of those players, 5 of them make $10M+ a yr, add into the ones we have ow we just couldn't afford to have those 5 plus what we have and have a balanced roster, just not feasible, you can only pay so many players I that $10M+ a yr range, also we weren't signing 3 RBs to the kind of money they all got, same for 3 LBs at $10M+ a yr, and Dre wasn't taking an incentive laden deal, he wanted to be LB1, he wasn't gonna be that here and we offered him more and he chose Denver, as for Ward we chose DMo, I have no issue with it, plus Ward was injured this season, even if he may have not been with us, he wasn't gonna be extended, again you can't keep everyone, just not doable, the cap can only hold so much.

And I'm not making excuses, I'm trying to make people realize that you can't keep everyone, sometimes you need to let players go, just how it is, every team does it every year.