John Lynch - 49ers GM

Lynch's drafting has caused this team to have some major holes to fill. We need WR help. We need OL help. We need to begin looking at replacements for Williams and let's be honest, Kittle. We need DL help. We need help at safety I agree . . . we need help in several areas. After watching the Rams and the Hawks yesterday, our team needs a lot to be competitive with them. Lynch better nail the draft and free agency this year . . . or we are looking at being the third best team in the NFC West as other teams in the NFC improve and that could mean missing the playoffs or out in the wildcard or divisional round each year if we are lucky.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Lynch's drafting has caused this team to have some major holes to fill. We need WR help. We need OL help. We need to begin looking at replacements for Williams and let's be honest, Kittle. We need DL help. We need help at safety I agree . . . we need help in several areas. After watching the Rams and the Hawks yesterday, our team needs a lot to be competitive with them. Lynch better nail the draft and free agency this year . . . or we are looking at being the third best team in the NFC West as other teams in the NFC improve and that could mean missing the playoffs or out in the wildcard or divisional round each year if we are lucky.

Drating isn't the reason the WR group is poor. Aiyuk was an above average reciever until he got hurt. Deebo was productive but he kept getting injured and eventually got trade. Pearsall has shown fashes but injuries have derailed his career. Those aren't Lynch's fault.

The O line hasn'rtbeen completely neglected either. They'v ertried too fill some holes with 2nd-4th round picks but only Puni has looked okay. I agree finding a tackle to replace Williams is a major issue but be j honest. What are the chances of finding a tackle nearly as good as him unless you draft in the top 5 or at least top 10.

They addressed the D line last year and Wiliams was really improving until he got injured. West and Collins may eventually be the run stoppers they were looking for. They need anothe rgood edge rusher. maybe two since Bosa suffered his 3rd knee injury. Eventually that takes a toll on you.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Anything else you want to cry about tonight?

Nah I'm good now. Did you finish your love letter that you are sending to Shanahan?

Weird. Wasn't even talking about KS. But good one I guess

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey, just heard a fun fact on TV.

The Pats have only 6 free agents next year, and they're in the super bowl. Imagine that.

The Rams have the 13th overall pick from ATL and the 8th most cap space

The Hawks have the 4th most cap space and just a handful of free agents

We are screwed

But 90% of fans were ecstatic when we traded for Trey lance. So that's good.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey, just heard a fun fact on TV.

The Pats have only 6 free agents next year, and they're in the super bowl. Imagine that.

The Rams have the 13th overall pick from ATL and the 8th most cap space

The Hawks have the 4th most cap space and just a handful of free agents

We are screwed

But 90% of fans were ecstatic when we traded for Trey lance. So that's good.

That was a huge miss by Lynch and Shanahan. But they made up for it by drafting Purdy and signing him to a new contract. 9ers could've definitely used those 1st round picks they traded for Lance I'll admit to that.

I honestly don't think we can go on with him. Look at how the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Eagles draft. Plus free agency. Internal extension contracts. Then compare it to us. It's a complete catastrophe. He can't be making the picks. We need to rebuild. Not more busts and reaches. We are stuck with Shany. But at least get rid of Lynch.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I honestly don't think we can go on with him. Look at how the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Eagles draft. Plus free agency. Internal extension contracts. Then compare it to us. It's a complete catastrophe. He can't be making the picks. We need to rebuild. Not more busts and reaches. We are stuck with Shany. But at least get rid of Lynch.

"Stuck" with Shanny. What a simplistic take.

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I honestly don't think we can go on with him. Look at how the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Eagles draft. Plus free agency. Internal extension contracts. Then compare it to us. It's a complete catastrophe. He can't be making the picks. We need to rebuild. Not more busts and reaches. We are stuck with Shany. But at least get rid of Lynch.

"Stuck" with Shanny. What a simplistic take.

I don't think the DORKS will get rid of him. So yes we are stuck with Shany. At least get rid of Lynch. You can't say he's good at draft, free agency, internal extension contracts, letting key free agents leave, cap management and dead money, trades. Can you honestly say he's good at any of those? At least get rid of Lynch. It's the best we can hope for.

Lynch fired and a new player personnel guru hired to rebuild the team. Shany can do his shifts and motions. Just stay away from the draft and free agency and the cap. Because he's also obviously not good there. Shany should just coach only. Lynch should be gone.

Great takes I thought.



Talks on what the Niners need and how much longer Shanahan and Lynch have around 8:00 minute mark, basically 3 more years.

Needs:
Linebacker with Fred Warner
Pass Rushing DE and DT
Cornerback to go opposite Lenior
Safey Coverage Guy
Offensive:
Need to address WR and get faster and bigger . . . ie Alec Pierce
Offensive Line: Need center and Left Guard.
Tight End in the future

Also they discuss trading Matt Jones and that he really could get a 2nd round pick for him based on QB available for draft.

Also, J Jennings is probably gone as he isn't worth the 20 million he will probably get on the market and the Niners max would be 16 million or 32 million for 2 years or 45 million for 3 years is probably max because with receivers, the Niners just have to get faster and be explosive and Jennings doesn't fit.

Thoughts?

The Lance and Cmac trade wiped a lot of draft capital from us in a short space of time. Cmac was worth it, Lance definitely not.

We need to crush this draft (starters, not projects) and have the 2024 and 2025 classes move closer towards the potential they flashed.

People still think Lynch is making the draft picks with Kyles mouth and hands tied in the basement as hes making those picks ? And Kyle has no input on offensive picks ? It's comical at this point.

You know, I remember Belichik when he had absolute control of the Pats org. Superbowl rings aside, he was also their GM and making draft picks. Bill was pretty awful at drafting. Like, real bad and his failures are well-documented, even when he traded down (which he did a lot) stuff didnt work out. Just like Kyle, Bill was not drafting BPAs but guys who fit the system and the "patriot way". But once pats stopped winning, there was no more "patriot way".

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I honestly don't think we can go on with him. Look at how the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Eagles draft. Plus free agency. Internal extension contracts. Then compare it to us. It's a complete catastrophe. He can't be making the picks. We need to rebuild. Not more busts and reaches. We are stuck with Shany. But at least get rid of Lynch.

"Stuck" with Shanny. What a simplistic take.

I don't think the DORKS will get rid of him. So yes we are stuck with Shany. At least get rid of Lynch. You can't say he's good at draft, free agency, internal extension contracts, letting key free agents leave, cap management and dead money, trades. Can you honestly say he's good at any of those? At least get rid of Lynch. It's the best we can hope for.

Lynch fired and a new player personnel guru hired to rebuild the team. Shany can do his shifts and motions. Just stay away from the draft and free agency and the cap. Because he's also obviously not good there. Shany should just coach only. Lynch should be gone.

While I don't disagree with you completely on Lynch, I'm kinda sitting on a fence. How and who would you replace him with ? Take a chance on an unknown 'guru' who has never run a draft by himself ? It could end up being a disaster. Move Josh Williams up to GM ? He's being interviewed for GM . Do you give the new 'guru' 1 year and then fire him if the rookies don't perform at pro bowl level the 1st year. I'm not opposed to moving on, I just don't know how you do it without great risk.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
People still think Lynch is making the draft picks with Kyles mouth and hands tied in the basement as hes making those picks ? And Kyle has no input on offensive picks ? It's comical at this point.

You know, I remember Belichik when he had absolute control of the Pats org. Superbowl rings aside, he was also their GM and making draft picks. Bill was pretty awful at drafting. Like, real bad and his failures are well-documented, even when he traded down (which he did a lot) stuff didnt work out. Just like Kyle, Bill was not drafting BPAs but guys who fit the system and the "patriot way". But once pats stopped winning, there was no more "patriot way".

Lliterally nobody thinks that Kyle has zero input, come on.

The GM always gets judged by draft picks, re-signings and FA moves, regardless of how much input coaches have.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
People still think Lynch is making the draft picks with Kyles mouth and hands tied in the basement as hes making those picks ? And Kyle has no input on offensive picks ? It's comical at this point.

You know, I remember Belichik when he had absolute control of the Pats org. Superbowl rings aside, he was also their GM and making draft picks. Bill was pretty awful at drafting. Like, real bad and his failures are well-documented, even when he traded down (which he did a lot) stuff didnt work out. Just like Kyle, Bill was not drafting BPAs but guys who fit the system and the "patriot way". But once pats stopped winning, there was no more "patriot way".

Back in 2017 when Adam Peters joined the 49ers, John Lynch said they were implementing the New England Patriots' drafting grading system. Man, I wish I could find the article. It was on KNBR.com featuring an interview with John Lynch where he went into detail on the NE system, but the article has long been deleted. It essentially said that the Patriots' graded players based on whether they could win a starting spot and fit on the team. In other words, players' value is heavily weighed by the roster's needs and culture. The article also mentioned how the individual coaching staff's opinions on players carried significant weight and if a they had a guy they loved, they were likely get drafted. These two factors explain why there's SOOOOOOOOO many f**king ill-advised reaches by the 49ers.

When you consider all of this, you really do get a better understanding from a roster and draft perspective of what Shanny meant when he said, "you don't come in and take Cassius Marsh's job" back in 2018 or whenever it was. Adam Peters' brought this trash to the 49ers, and it's been here ever since.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Great takes I thought.



Talks on what the Niners need and how much longer Shanahan and Lynch have around 8:00 minute mark, basically 3 more years.

Needs:
Linebacker with Fred Warner
Pass Rushing DE and DT
Cornerback to go opposite Lenior
Safey Coverage Guy
Offensive:
Need to address WR and get faster and bigger . . . ie Alec Pierce
Offensive Line: Need center and Left Guard.
Tight End in the future

Also they discuss trading Matt Jones and that he really could get a 2nd round pick for him based on QB available for draft.

Also, J Jennings is probably gone as he isn't worth the 20 million he will probably get on the market and the Niners max would be 16 million or 32 million for 2 years or 45 million for 3 years is probably max because with receivers, the Niners just have to get faster and be explosive and Jennings doesn't fit.

Thoughts?

They only have 7 picks with 4 of them on day 3 and none higher than #26 in any round. Three compensatory picks come at the end of the regular round. So how do they fill all those needs? Free agency can help but they can't sign any high priced guys.