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Originally posted by bigpete50:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's right about a lot of that. Like it or not. This is a rebuild. This team can't just run it back next year. No way.

I'm very fearful a run back is exactly what will happen. We are staring at .500 football at best next year. It's one of the most pivotal off seasons in recent memory and the tea leaves predict we will make a splash one ONE free agent like an Isiah Likely and then grab 3-4 budget guys to fill in some roster spots. In the draft, Lynch will continue to reach for players taking guys 2-3 rounds higher than they should have been drafted because "they fit the Niner culture."

Many of the players drafted will wallow on the bench and will never be given an opportunity to develop or contribute. It's the same endless loop as always.

The time of relying on aging superstars and good coaching is fast expiring. Something needs to change. The team needs direction but do we have the management, desire and skill to get it done?

Something like that is what will happen. LOL. This team is going nowhere fast. Even downhill.
If injuries are kind (lol) I think people will be back to saying how good the 2024 draft was mid next season.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
I have no faith in the niners building in the draft. Lynch and Shanny got lucky with Warner Kittle etc. can the niners steal an exec from under Seattles front office?

To be the GM you mean?

When was the last time we hired an experienced GM-in-waiting candidate from outside the organization? 2005 - Scot McCloughan. Brought in as VP of player personnel under HC/GM Mike Nolan, and ultimately promoted to GM in 2008.

And the dude drafted Gore, Willis, Bowman, Staley? Not too bad.

Im in agreement with some of you, we need a better evaluator in picking all rounds of our draft. Lynch isn't it and his FA acquisitions have been weak. Luke Farrell at TE was not good. Keeping Aiyuk was a bumble and he doesn't have a good feel on who to let go, and who to re sign.
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Main thing about John is he needs to do a lot better in the draft. I agree a better evalutor would be a direction to go in John needs help in evaluting talent.
[ Edited by bud49 on Jan 21, 2026 at 4:47 AM ]
To me, the four key priorities are as follows:

1. Get a big name WR. I love Ricky as much as the next guy but his ceiling is always going to be WR2 if he can't play that often. It's time to replace the gaping hole Deebo/Aiyuk left us with. You fill that hole and it'll open up the offense quite a bit.

2. Get another DL. We can't rely on Bosa/Williams to stay consistently healthy all year. Keion White actually wasn't a bad pickup but we need more. We might even cut Huff because it saves us a lot of cap, but still, replace him with someone better.

3. Get a safety who can actually cover. Shouldn't even be that expensive. Our "sexy" draft prospects are not starting material, they make nice highlights every once in awhile but are terrible in coverage.

4. Get Trent's future replacement. I would've had this at #1 but Trent keeps insisting he'll play a lot longer, though I doubt it.

Whether it's by draft, trade or free agency, these should be top four priorities this offseason.
Originally posted by bigpete50:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's right about a lot of that. Like it or not. This is a rebuild. This team can't just run it back next year. No way.

I'm very fearful a run back is exactly what will happen. We are staring at .500 football at best next year. It's one of the most pivotal off seasons in recent memory and the tea leaves predict we will make a splash on ONE free agent like an Isiah Likely and then grab 3-4 budget guys to fill in some roster spots. In the draft, Lynch will continue to reach for players taking guys 2-3 rounds higher than they should have been drafted because "they fit the Niner culture."

Many of the players drafted will wallow on the bench and will never be given an opportunity to develop or contribute. It's the same endless loop as always.

The time of relying on aging superstars and good coaching is fast expiring. Something needs to change. The team needs direction but do we have the management, desire and skill to get it done?

Time will tell. As always we're at the mercy of our injuries.

Schedule won't be easy but we have no idea how it will play out or what the roster will look like. Getting Bosa, Warner and Williams back will help the defense a great deal. They will add some others as well obviously.

Offense with Brock under Kyle will always be able to produce as long as we find a way to get receivers who can open things up.
Originally posted by bud49:
Main thing about John is he needs to do a lot better in the draft. I agree a better evalutor would be a direction to go in John needs help in evaluting talent.

I just looked at the #1 overall draft picks since 2000. Twelve never lived up to their billing and several were total failures. Some were out of the leaugue withing 4 years. Another 3 or so are still trying to live up to being picked that high.

If teams can miss this badly on the #1 overall pick is it any surprise that it's even harder when you pick at the end of the round?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by bud49:
Main thing about John is he needs to do a lot better in the draft. I agree a better evalutor would be a direction to go in John needs help in evaluting talent.

I just looked at the #1 overall draft picks since 2000. Twelve never lived up to their billing and several were total failures. Some were out of the leaugue withing 4 years. Another 3 or so are still trying to live up to being picked that high.

If teams can miss this badly on the #1 overall pick is it any surprise that it's even harder when you pick at the end of the round?

yes, even a 1st round pick is not a guaranteed starter. The draft is a lottery.

By the way Bud49, I was under the impression that most of the talent evaluation is done by the scouts. If poor old John is doing all the talent evaluation, what on earth do the scouts do to pass the idle hours?

Truth of the matter is, everybody gets stuck in to assess the draft prospects. But when the zone is looking to drop the blame, it's Lynch or Shanahan.
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We never run out of excuses for Johnny Boy's poor job, do we?

I just don't get it, Kyle fans, like I said in a different post, it's in Shanahan's best interest to have a real, competent GM to help him get us over the hump.
[ Edited by Koldo on Jan 21, 2026 at 8:52 AM ]
Originally posted by English:
yes, even a 1st round pick is not a guaranteed starter. The draft is a lottery.

By the way Bud49, I was under the impression that most of the talent evaluation is done by the scouts. If poor old John is doing all the talent evaluation, what on earth do the scouts do to pass the idle hours?

Truth of the matter is, everybody gets stuck in to assess the draft prospects. But when the zone is looking to drop the blame, it's Lynch or Shanahan.

I think that is turning into a legitimate concern. People like to come in here and blast Lynch for the growing list of missed opportunities in the draft because he's the GM and, presumably, has a large say in who they will ultimately select. But he's not the one who is doing all of the player evaluations and so you start to wonder if maybe the team needs to reevaluate its scouting department and its process.

I think one of the most obvious fails of the last few years, in hindsight, was selecting Kinlaw over Wirfs. A guy who was barely able to stay on the field as opposed to a future All-Pro at a position of need. I think we all know that Lynch and Shanahan have put a huge emphasis on the D-line since they got here and it's part of their overall philosophy, create a defense that gets you off the field on third down, but they haven't actually been very good at it. Starting with the Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster picks.

I mean, they've obviously had some successes on that side of the ball. Lenior, Green and Stout aren't terrible, but are any of them future All-Pros? Before this last draft, I can't even remember a defensive lineman they've picked that's ended up being a difference maker, outside of Bosa. Hopefully, Williams, Collins and West, will change that narrative a bit.

As I said in another post, I think the time has come for them to really clean house along the defensive line. Get rid of Elliot, Davis, and Givens who seem like they've been with the team forever but aren't really difference makers. Let YGM walk, give Anderson and Valdez more opportunities and zero in on a D-lineman who actually can be a wrecking ball at this level if they're determined to go down that road again.

I realize that picking so late in the draft this year will limit their opportunities, but every year it seems like there are a few players who fall into the late rounds that end up being terrific, why isn't it our scouting department that finds them? Which isn't to say we haven't had some success there, but we seem to find more high value roll players than out and out stars, which is what the team needs right now.

Perhaps there's an argument to made for doing what the Bills did, kick their GM up to President of Football Operations and bring in a new GM, someone who has a legitimate track record in drafting impact players. I'm not saying every pick has to be a homerun, but at least one per draft would be nice. Go Niners!
[ Edited by 49ers81 on Jan 21, 2026 at 8:59 AM ]
Originally posted by Koldo:
We never run out of excuses for Johnny Boy's poor job, do we?

I just don't get it, Kyle fans, like I said in a different post, it's in Shanahan's best interest to have a real, competent GM to help him get us over the hump.

So should Kyle be fired or should Lynch? Or do we need a new QB? Do regular season wins or playoff wins matter or don't they?

I can't keep up with fans like you.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
I think that is turning into a legitimate concern. People like to come in here and blast Lynch for the growing list of missed opportunities in the draft because he's the GM and, presumably, has a large say in who they will ultimately select. But he's not the one who is doing all of the player evaluations and so you start to wonder if maybe the team needs to reevaluate its scouting department and its process.

I think one of the most obvious fails of the last few years, in hindsight, was selecting Kinlaw over Wirfs. A guy who was barely able to stay on the field as opposed to a future All-Pro at a position of need. I think we all know that Lynch and Shanahan have put a huge emphasis on the D-line since they got here and it's part of their overall philosophy, create a defense that gets you off the field on third down, but they haven't actually been very good at it. Starting with the Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster picks.

I mean, they've obviously had some successes on that side of the ball. Lenior, Green and Stout aren't terrible, but are any of them future All-Pros? Before this last draft, I can't even remember a defensive lineman they've picked that's ended up being a difference maker, outside of Bosa. Hopefully, Williams, Collins and West, will change that narrative a bit.

As I said in another post, I think the time has come for them to really clean house along the defensive line. Get rid of Elliot, Davis, and Givens who seem like they've been with the team forever but aren't really difference makers. Let YGM walk, give Anderson and Valdez more opportunities and zero in on a D-lineman who actually can be a wrecking ball at this level if they're determined to go down that road again.

I realize that picking so late in the draft this year will limit their opportunities, but every year it seems like there are a few players who fall into the late rounds that end up being terrific, why isn't it our scouting department that finds them? Which isn't to say we haven't had some success there, but we seem to find more high value roll players than out and out stars, which is what the team needs right now.

Perhaps there's an argument to made for doing what the Bills did, kick their GM up to President of Football Operations and bring in a new GM, someone who has a legitimate track record in drafting impact players. I'm not saying every pick has to be a homerun, but at least one per draft would be nice. Go Niners!
Good post. I think both our talent evaluation and player selection processes need to be scrutinized and addressed. Our list of difference makers over the past five years has been meager compared to our rivals, and the talent on the team just seems to be rotting from the inside out. Couple that with poor contract decisions, tons of dead money, and poor FA signings… I think we need something fresh.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

lets see how that translates.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Nice, Lynch will now be able to f**k up bigger.
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