John Lynch - 49ers GM

They built this team from the ground up and have maintained a winning culture and a perennial contender since. FO, coaching staff and players are being raided yearly by other organizations. What I'd like to see is KS staying out the draft process . Of course he should have input, but these wasted high picks on RBs that are either gone or not even contributing is unacceptable and that's directly on him. Also would like them to cool it with over drafting guys. You can read the room and still get your guys without drafting 1-2 rounds earlier . And as Phoenix mentioned earlier, enough with this redshirt s**t. All that said, Still aren't too many FO's and coaching staffs id rather have

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And If CMC keeps regressing, Jennings leaves and Trent Williams leaves as a cap casualty then what?

Do you have faith in Shanahan and Lynch to rebuild this again?

1. CMC doesn't appear to be regressing as much as ppl think he is, and 2. why would TW leave, we're not cutting him, that was a clickbait story by ESPN as usual, Fowler doesn't know s**t about what's happening.

I do have faith in Kyle & John.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I'm not in complete disagreement with your concerns, but on this specific point, don't they deserve a chance to do so? Afterall, they're the ones that built this team in the first place. The precedent is there.

Again, I'm not in complete disagreement with your concerns. They're real concerns, but ShanaLynch have earned the benefit of the doubt.

Shanahan yes, he's a fantastic coach. Keep him as long as he has ZERO input in personnel decisions.

Lynch has one more offseason IMO. This will be a huge one. The expectations are sky high and if he doesn't deliver we need to bring in an experienced personnel GM.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And If CMC keeps regressing, Jennings leaves and Trent Williams leaves as a cap casualty then what?

Do you have faith in Shanahan and Lynch to rebuild this again?

1. CMC doesn't appear to be regressing as much as ppl think he is, and 2. why would TW leave, we're not cutting him, that was a clickbait story by ESPN as usual, Fowler doesn't know s**t about what's happening.

I do have faith in Kyle & John.

I believe CMC has lost his burst as a RB. As a receiving option he is the best in the league. That said there are two things which are very concerning.

1- He will be turning 30 and that's the magic number where RB's play seems to drop off a cliff.

2- Every year where he has an MVP like season as a workhorse back he is injured the next year.

As for Trent, he said he wants to play but how do we keep him at his 39 million cap hit. We can't extend his deal. Do we restructure him? You're the cap expert. How do you suggest we deal with his salary.

I too have faith in Shanahan but not Lynch. Not at all and all I know is that our team is extremely top heavy with expensive, aging and injury prone players. Every single one of them.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I believe CMC has lost his burst as a RB. As a receiving option he is the best in the league. That said there are two things which are very concerning.

1- He will be turning 30 and that's the magic number where RB's play seems to drop off a cliff.

2- Every year where he has an MVP like season as a workhorse back he is injured the next year.

As for Trent, he said he wants to play but how do we keep him at his 39 million cap hit. We can't extend his deal. Do we restructure him? You're the cap expert. How do you suggest we deal with his salary.

I too have faith in Shanahan but not Lynch. Not at all and all I know is that our team is extremely top heavy with expensive, aging and injury prone players. Every single one of them.

You do know we're 12-5 right? We lost the most key players to injury by a landslide as compared to everyone else but the depth and our coaching got us to once again

12-5

Calm down bro

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Silky:
I am born and raised in South Jersey near Philadelphia, so I know too much about that team than I want to. It's so frustrating to me that they had so many first round draft picks and absolutely nailed them the past 2-3 drafts. Jalen Carter, Cooper DeJean (2nd round), Mitchell, Nolan Carter, Jihad Campbell, etc. All elite to very good at their positions. Then they have had some great trades like getting Philips this year. Schneider and Roseman are running circles around this league and i'm really doubting Lynch can keep up or have an impactful offseason to catch up to them. I am starting to align with many people that he may need to go. We have like 4 WR's that don't even play. I can't take that situation don't get me started.

Thing is look at Schneiders drafts from 2013 to 2021. Pedestrian at best.

How much of that was Pete Carroll though? Once he left it seems Schnieder was able to cook again. IMO it seems Kyle has as much power over the FO as Carroll did in SEA. If Kyle can it least step aside and let the FO do their thing (whether it's Lynch or not), then things should already improve. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that's something Kyle is willing to relinquish.

12- 5 is great but deceiving so let's not throw that up to justify our very apparent talent gap. Yes some of the rookies will get better but by how much? The injury depleted defense instantly gets better when healthy but by how much? Corners are atrocious. Safety?? Run stopper? The offense is in worse shape. Neglected oline. MIA receivers, and a bunch of running backs rarely used. The roster looks like a cheap piece of Swiss cheese. Holes aplenty. But, but we are 12-5….. because Kyle had a great year coaching combined with a favorable schedule and luck in a few games. We are not a legitimate contender and drafting our way back is a fools bet with this GM.

This weekend will be another reminder of who this team really is.. a rebuild in progress with inferior parts…

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
You do know we're 12-5 right? We lost the most key players to injury by a landslide as compared to everyone else but the depth and our coaching got us to once again

12-5

Calm down bro

Yes, I realize that. It's all you guys say.

We played 5 quality opponents all year and had a 3-4 record vs them.

Rams x 2
Seattle x 2
Jacksonville
Houston
Chicago

In all the other games we played Spencer Rattler, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Michael Penix, Jaxon Dart, Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young, Shedeur Sanders, Cam Ward, Phillip Rivers and Caleb Williams.

Not exactly a murderers row of starting QBs. And even half those mediocre QBs ate up this subpar D of ours.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Yes, I realize that. It's all you guys say.

We played 5 quality opponents all year and had a 3-4 record vs them.

Rams x 2
Seattle x 2
Jacksonville
Houston
Chicago

In all the other games we played Spencer Rattler, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Michael Penix, Jaxon Dart, Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young, Shedeur Sanders, Cam Ward, Phillip Rivers and Caleb Williams.

Not exactly a murderers row of starting QBs. And even half those mediocre QBs ate up this subpar D of ours.

You talking about "you guys". Look in the mirror. Man this is the NFL! Ain't no easy wins vs world class talent. Dudes were out there west coast team traveling across multiple time zone early morning games with a week 13 bye week before a break. They lost all the doggone top tier talent more than any other team and "you guys" want to discount the 12-5 record to date. That is a hard thing to do in this league and dang near impossible to do under our circumstances. I got family that is NFL and if you had the privilege to talk to anyone that is a player or a coach or if you had to do this yourself you'd know that it takes a helluva organization to be where we are at this point of the season. As I am a fan of this team I am applauding where we are right now

We could have had him for a measly 3rd round pick but chose to get Keion White instead.

Moves like this is why Philly has two Super Bowls since Lynch and Shanahan have been in charge and we have none.

https://www.theringer.com/2026/01/01/nfl/ranking-the-top-nfl-free-agents-2026-george-pickens-trey-hendrickson-daniel-jones-aaron-rodgers

3. Edge Jaelan Phillips
Current team: Philadelphia Eagles

Age: 26

Drafted: 2021 first round (18th)

Pro Bowls: None

All-Pro teams: None

The Eagles got away with highway robbery by acquiring Phillips from the Dolphins for a third-round pick at the trade deadline in November. His first two games in Philly came against two of the league's better offensive tackles, the Packers' Zach Tom and the Lions' Penei Sewell, and Phillips still made his presence felt right away, with 12 pressures and a sack in his first two games. He has an ideal frame, great strength, and terrifying explosiveness, making him a dream fit as a stand-up rusher who can line up anywhere in Vic Fangio's defense. Phillips can blow through and by tackles, and he often manhandles tight ends into the backfield when given the opportunity. He's tied for fourth in total pressures (41) since joining the Eagles in Week 10.

Injuries have been a problem for Phillips dating back to his college days, but—knock on wood—he's started every week of this season, without a bye week because of the timing of his trade. A healthy Phillips could be one of the league's best edge defenders. He is a big name on this list, but he isn't going anywhere. He's a candidate to receive the franchise tag if he and the Eagles can't agree on terms for what will likely be a monster extension.

Originally posted by ninerAxe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Silky:
I am born and raised in South Jersey near Philadelphia, so I know too much about that team than I want to. It's so frustrating to me that they had so many first round draft picks and absolutely nailed them the past 2-3 drafts. Jalen Carter, Cooper DeJean (2nd round), Mitchell, Nolan Carter, Jihad Campbell, etc. All elite to very good at their positions. Then they have had some great trades like getting Philips this year. Schneider and Roseman are running circles around this league and i'm really doubting Lynch can keep up or have an impactful offseason to catch up to them. I am starting to align with many people that he may need to go. We have like 4 WR's that don't even play. I can't take that situation don't get me started.

Thing is look at Schneiders drafts from 2013 to 2021. Pedestrian at best.

How much of that was Pete Carroll though? Once he left it seems Schnieder was able to cook again. IMO it seems Kyle has as much power over the FO as Carroll did in SEA. If Kyle can it least step aside and let the FO do their thing (whether it's Lynch or not), then things should already improve. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that's something Kyle is willing to relinquish.

💯

Kyle needs to stick to coaching and leave the personnel decisions to a quality GM

Originally posted by ninerAxe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Silky:
I am born and raised in South Jersey near Philadelphia, so I know too much about that team than I want to. It's so frustrating to me that they had so many first round draft picks and absolutely nailed them the past 2-3 drafts. Jalen Carter, Cooper DeJean (2nd round), Mitchell, Nolan Carter, Jihad Campbell, etc. All elite to very good at their positions. Then they have had some great trades like getting Philips this year. Schneider and Roseman are running circles around this league and i'm really doubting Lynch can keep up or have an impactful offseason to catch up to them. I am starting to align with many people that he may need to go. We have like 4 WR's that don't even play. I can't take that situation don't get me started.

Thing is look at Schneiders drafts from 2013 to 2021. Pedestrian at best.

How much of that was Pete Carroll though? Once he left it seems Schnieder was able to cook again. IMO it seems Kyle has as much power over the FO as Carroll did in SEA. If Kyle can it least step aside and let the FO do their thing (whether it's Lynch or not), then things should already improve. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that's something Kyle is willing to relinquish.

The bulk of that Seahawks roster was built with Pete in place.

Their 2021 draft was a throw away but after they moved Russell Wilson and got the absurd haul from Denver they hit on a bulk of their guys now.

2022
Charles Cross and Abraham Lucas - two starting OTs
Ken Walker - starting RB
Mafe, Coby Bryant, Riq Woolen - 3 starters on defense

2023
Witherspoon - 3 time Pro Bowl starter at corner(Wilson pick)
JSN - their best offensive player
Derick Hall - starting/rotation DE
Zach Charbonnet - key RB2
Anthony Bradford - starting G

They also traded for Leonard Williams one of their key pieces on defense.

The drafts without Pete are obviously still fresh so too early to tell but so far it looks like they hit on these guys
2024
Byron Murphy, easily the best DT in the class by every draftnik out there. Got incredibly lucky that the first 14 picks were on offense and Murphy fell right in their laps.
AJ Barner - solid TE

2025
Grey Zabel - great G
Nick Emmanwori - how teams allowed him to fall to Seattle i don't understand.
Rest TBD

But the bulk of the impact players on that roster were Pete Carroll guys. It's why I have a hard time seeing MacDonald get COTY. Taking over a 9-8 team isn't exactly working magic in a rebuild of a trash roster.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
They built this team from the ground up and have maintained a winning culture and a perennial contender since. FO, coaching staff and players are being raided yearly by other organizations. What I'd like to see is KS staying out the draft process . Of course he should have input, but these wasted high picks on RBs that are either gone or not even contributing is unacceptable and that's directly on him. Also would like them to cool it with over drafting guys. You can read the room and still get your guys without drafting 1-2 rounds earlier . And as Phoenix mentioned earlier, enough with this redshirt s**t. All that said, Still aren't too many FO's and coaching staffs id rather have

Honestly, I don't think it's a Kyle stay out of the draft process as much as his coaching staff overall has a ton of say in the draft process. Like a lot. Not sure how it goes with other teams.

End of the day, I want my coaching staff and FO to have collaboration with that stuff. I don't want the coaching staff or GM/Scout department to have all the say in who's the pick.

totally agree with reading the room and understanding the draft board league wide. It's one thing to draft a guy a couple spots higher vs a couple rds higher against the consensus.

Originally posted by genus49:
The bulk of that Seahawks roster was built with Pete in place.

Their 2021 draft was a throw away but after they moved Russell Wilson and got the absurd haul from Denver they hit on a bulk of their guys now.

2022
Charles Cross and Abraham Lucas - two starting OTs
Ken Walker - starting RB
Mafe, Coby Bryant, Riq Woolen - 3 starters on defense

2023
Witherspoon - 3 time Pro Bowl starter at corner(Wilson pick)
JSN - their best offensive player
Derick Hall - starting/rotation DE
Zach Charbonnet - key RB2
Anthony Bradford - starting G

They also traded for Leonard Williams one of their key pieces on defense.

The drafts without Pete are obviously still fresh so too early to tell but so far it looks like they hit on these guys
2024
Byron Murphy, easily the best DT in the class by every draftnik out there. Got incredibly lucky that the first 14 picks were on offense and Murphy fell right in their laps.
AJ Barner - solid TE

2025
Grey Zabel - great G
Nick Emmanwori - how teams allowed him to fall to Seattle i don't understand.
Rest TBD

But the bulk of the impact players on that roster were Pete Carroll guys. It's why I have a hard time seeing MacDonald get COTY. Taking over a 9-8 team isn't exactly working magic in a rebuild of a trash roster.

Seattle has had 11 picks since 2022 (Wilson trade) in the first two rds. That helps for sure.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
The bulk of that Seahawks roster was built with Pete in place.

Their 2021 draft was a throw away but after they moved Russell Wilson and got the absurd haul from Denver they hit on a bulk of their guys now.

2022
Charles Cross and Abraham Lucas - two starting OTs
Ken Walker - starting RB
Mafe, Coby Bryant, Riq Woolen - 3 starters on defense

2023
Witherspoon - 3 time Pro Bowl starter at corner(Wilson pick)
JSN - their best offensive player
Derick Hall - starting/rotation DE
Zach Charbonnet - key RB2
Anthony Bradford - starting G

They also traded for Leonard Williams one of their key pieces on defense.

The drafts without Pete are obviously still fresh so too early to tell but so far it looks like they hit on these guys
2024
Byron Murphy, easily the best DT in the class by every draftnik out there. Got incredibly lucky that the first 14 picks were on offense and Murphy fell right in their laps.
AJ Barner - solid TE

2025
Grey Zabel - great G
Nick Emmanwori - how teams allowed him to fall to Seattle i don't understand.
Rest TBD

But the bulk of the impact players on that roster were Pete Carroll guys. It's why I have a hard time seeing MacDonald get COTY. Taking over a 9-8 team isn't exactly working magic in a rebuild of a trash roster.

Seattle has had 11 picks since 2022 (Wilson trade) in the first two rds. That helps for sure.

Or maybe they just draft well