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Dude has built a roster that is currently 12-5 with his star players out for the majority of the year and is getting slammed in the comments.

Such is life as GM of the forty-whiners.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BP13:
John doesn't make these pics all by himself. It's pretty well known that the 49ers front office collaborates with the scouting dept, John, Kyle, Tariq Ahmad, Josh Williams, and even the position coaches, when it comes to drafting.

The argument out there is that perhaps the 49ers lack a singular vision, like a John Dorsey or a John Schneider, and that too many opinions are being heard. It doesn't help that the team loses front office guys regularly; Martin Mayhew, Adam Peters, Ran Carthon, etc.

Lynch has many strengths and weaknesses, but he's very valuable to the team; as a former HOF player, he does have a vision of the character and identity he wants the team to embody. If I were Jed, I'd bring in a proven draft personnel guru to work with everyone but have final approval on draft picks. Someone like a John Dorsey type,

I wanted that for a while. Love John. But I do think we need a legit GM who will work closely with Kyle but one who is known for being a great talent evaluator.

Question I have is whether John would stick around as a "President of Football" or whatever BS title is available where he may feel like he's not getting demoted. And honestly as much as I love the guy...I don't care.

I think we need a better GM with Kyle to really get back on track. I have full confidence in Kyle's coaching abilities but I think he needs to give up some of his power with talent acquisition.

Kyle needs to give up ALL of his power and focus exclusively on coaching.

But you've made it clear you don't think he's a very good coach, won't win it with him and want him gone. Last 2 weeks or so you seem to be trying to shift to the personnel side of things
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BP13:
John doesn't make these pics all by himself. It's pretty well known that the 49ers front office collaborates with the scouting dept, John, Kyle, Tariq Ahmad, Josh Williams, and even the position coaches, when it comes to drafting.

The argument out there is that perhaps the 49ers lack a singular vision, like a John Dorsey or a John Schneider, and that too many opinions are being heard. It doesn't help that the team loses front office guys regularly; Martin Mayhew, Adam Peters, Ran Carthon, etc.

Lynch has many strengths and weaknesses, but he's very valuable to the team; as a former HOF player, he does have a vision of the character and identity he wants the team to embody. If I were Jed, I'd bring in a proven draft personnel guru to work with everyone but have final approval on draft picks. Someone like a John Dorsey type,

I wanted that for a while. Love John. But I do think we need a legit GM who will work closely with Kyle but one who is known for being a great talent evaluator.

Question I have is whether John would stick around as a "President of Football" or whatever BS title is available where he may feel like he's not getting demoted. And honestly as much as I love the guy...I don't care.

I think we need a better GM with Kyle to really get back on track. I have full confidence in Kyle's coaching abilities but I think he needs to give up some of his power with talent acquisition.

Kyle needs to give up ALL of his power and focus exclusively on coaching.

But you've made it clear you don't think he's a very good coach, won't win it with him and want him gone. Last 2 weeks or so you seem to be trying to shift to the personnel side of things

Please let go of my arm, sir.
Originally posted by miked1978:
Dude has built a roster that is currently 12-5 with his star players out for the majority of the year and is getting slammed in the comments.

Such is life as GM of the forty-whiners.

I'm not saying there are not legit reasons to be critical of this regime, but the negativity and the b******t takes out there make me sick.
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
He better pull another rabbit out of his hat this off-season. And, can start by looking into Burrow.

What are you talking about? How are they going to get Burrow? I doubt that the Bengals would trade him for Purdy. The Niners don't have the draft picks to do it either.


EVEN if he Burrow gets to dawn Barry Helton's old # here, as long as we have Shanny, we ain't getting a RING !!
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BP13:
John doesn't make these pics all by himself. It's pretty well known that the 49ers front office collaborates with the scouting dept, John, Kyle, Tariq Ahmad, Josh Williams, and even the position coaches, when it comes to drafting.

The argument out there is that perhaps the 49ers lack a singular vision, like a John Dorsey or a John Schneider, and that too many opinions are being heard. It doesn't help that the team loses front office guys regularly; Martin Mayhew, Adam Peters, Ran Carthon, etc.

Lynch has many strengths and weaknesses, but he's very valuable to the team; as a former HOF player, he does have a vision of the character and identity he wants the team to embody. If I were Jed, I'd bring in a proven draft personnel guru to work with everyone but have final approval on draft picks. Someone like a John Dorsey type,

I wanted that for a while. Love John. But I do think we need a legit GM who will work closely with Kyle but one who is known for being a great talent evaluator.

Question I have is whether John would stick around as a "President of Football" or whatever BS title is available where he may feel like he's not getting demoted. And honestly as much as I love the guy...I don't care.

I think we need a better GM with Kyle to really get back on track. I have full confidence in Kyle's coaching abilities but I think he needs to give up some of his power with talent acquisition.

Kyle needs to give up ALL of his power and focus exclusively on coaching.

But you've made it clear you don't think he's a very good coach, won't win it with him and want him gone. Last 2 weeks or so you seem to be trying to shift to the personnel side of things

Please let go of my arm, sir.

Shocking only rebuttal you have is a one liner 🤣
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year

I like him, but isn't he more of a box safety? I guess if he replaces Mustafs it's a moot point. If they really want to revamp the safety's sign him and Bryant (or love if he's the odd man out)
We have so many holes to fill. Scary. The young guys we've drafted aren't elite. Mostly backups.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year

I like him, but isn't he more of a box safety? I guess if he replaces Mustafs it's a moot point. If they really want to revamp the safety's sign him and Bryant (or love if he's the odd man out)

Yeah he's a box safety that imo has shown more coverage upside than Mustafa. Revamping the Safeties is something I'd like to see I don't think it will because this regime is stubborn about giving up on draft picks. There's some center field FS types coming out in the draft in the middle rounds I think they could get to team up with Brisker.
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
We have so many holes to fill. Scary. The young guys we've drafted aren't elite. Mostly backups.

The thing about young guys is you never know early in their careers. Sometimes it takes longer than you'd want to click.

The good thing is...ideally if we can push some of these guys back to the depth/backup land suddenly they look much better.

We can look at it two ways - the team despite all those holes and impact injuries on both sides of the ball are 12-5 and in the playoffs. Something few of us expected going into the season even with our key guys healthy. Doubt anyone here would've predicted that if we were told - Purdy will miss half the season, Bosa will be out after week 3. Warner after week 5. Mykel will only play 9 games. Kittle will miss almost 7 games worth of playing time, 8 games worth for Pearsall and Aiyuk will never suit up for the 49ers.

Obviously everyone has to pray the injured guys come back and look like their old selves(or better), S and WR positions have serious questions for next year.

But the biggest thing for success moving forward is we have the right QB and HC leading the way.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year

I like him, but isn't he more of a box safety? I guess if he replaces Mustafs it's a moot point. If they really want to revamp the safety's sign him and Bryant (or love if he's the odd man out)

Yeah he's a box safety that imo has shown more coverage upside than Mustafa. Revamping the Safeties is something I'd like to see I don't think it will because this regime is stubborn about giving up on draft picks. There's some center field FS types coming out in the draft in the middle rounds I think they could get to team up with Brisker.

Hoping after seeing lynch reaction to that 3 and 17 they maybe rethink this. Fomenting yo have box safeties, at least make sure they can tackle and take good angles . You like the FS from USC?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year

I like him, but isn't he more of a box safety? I guess if he replaces Mustafs it's a moot point. If they really want to revamp the safety's sign him and Bryant (or love if he's the odd man out)

Yeah he's a box safety that imo has shown more coverage upside than Mustafa. Revamping the Safeties is something I'd like to see I don't think it will because this regime is stubborn about giving up on draft picks. There's some center field FS types coming out in the draft in the middle rounds I think they could get to team up with Brisker.

Hoping after seeing lynch reaction to that 3 and 17 they maybe rethink this. Fomenting yo have box safeties, at least make sure they can tackle and take good angles . You like the FS from USC?

Ramsey is one of the mid round guys I was talking about.
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BP13:
John doesn't make these pics all by himself. It's pretty well known that the 49ers front office collaborates with the scouting dept, John, Kyle, Tariq Ahmad, Josh Williams, and even the position coaches, when it comes to drafting.

The argument out there is that perhaps the 49ers lack a singular vision, like a John Dorsey or a John Schneider, and that too many opinions are being heard. It doesn't help that the team loses front office guys regularly; Martin Mayhew, Adam Peters, Ran Carthon, etc.

Lynch has many strengths and weaknesses, but he's very valuable to the team; as a former HOF player, he does have a vision of the character and identity he wants the team to embody. If I were Jed, I'd bring in a proven draft personnel guru to work with everyone but have final approval on draft picks. Someone like a John Dorsey type,

I wanted that for a while. Love John. But I do think we need a legit GM who will work closely with Kyle but one who is known for being a great talent evaluator.

Question I have is whether John would stick around as a "President of Football" or whatever BS title is available where he may feel like he's not getting demoted. And honestly as much as I love the guy...I don't care.

I think we need a better GM with Kyle to really get back on track. I have full confidence in Kyle's coaching abilities but I think he needs to give up some of his power with talent acquisition.

Kyle needs to give up ALL of his power and focus exclusively on coaching.

But you've made it clear you don't think he's a very good coach, won't win it with him and want him gone. Last 2 weeks or so you seem to be trying to shift to the personnel side of things

Please let go of my arm, sir.

Shocking only rebuttal you have is a one liner 🤣

They work great in my stand-up act
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have an idea of who can replace Mustafa next year

I like him, but isn't he more of a box safety? I guess if he replaces Mustafs it's a moot point. If they really want to revamp the safety's sign him and Bryant (or love if he's the odd man out)

Yeah he's a box safety that imo has shown more coverage upside than Mustafa. Revamping the Safeties is something I'd like to see I don't think it will because this regime is stubborn about giving up on draft picks. There's some center field FS types coming out in the draft in the middle rounds I think they could get to team up with Brisker.

Hoping after seeing lynch reaction to that 3 and 17 they maybe rethink this. Fomenting yo have box safeties, at least make sure they can tackle and take good angles . You like the FS from USC?

Ramsey is one of the mid round guys I was talking about.

Seen a couple early projections of mid 2nd
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