John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Fasteddy:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:
Just curious but with all b***hing and complaining all you arm chair GMs do who do you give the credit to for the 49ers success since Lynch and Shanahan took over? Or are they not a successful organization in your eyes?

Some people think unless you have won a SB Championship you have had no success. I used to think like that but the older I've gotten the more I realize that isn't true. Especially since we are all just fans. It hurts when the 49ers lose a SB. Up until 2012 I had never experienced that. I look back on those seasons the 49ers made it to the SB and lost, NFC Championship Games and lost and as much as it hurt in the moment man those seasons were fun. Lot's of memories with friends and family being entertained by my favorite sports team.

I'm almost 50 and to me sucess as fan is defined as was I entertained? Were there lasting memories created? Yes and yes. I'm so appreciative of the job Kyle and John have done here bringing the 49ers back to relevancy. Do I wish they would have done some things differently? Absolutely. But they have done an awful lot right. If this is a rebuild year wow, it doesn't feel like one. 9-4 and currently the 4th toughest schedule by average DVOA.

I'll ask again who do you give the credit to for the 49ers mostly sustained success since 2019? Or would you prefer Terry Donahue, Trent Baalke, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Dennis Erikson, Jim Tomsula or Chip Kelly to come back because John and Kyle have done nothing in your eyes?

If you see success as winning a SB and nothing else I don't care what team you are fan of you will be disappointed the majority of your lifetime. As a fan and not someone who makes their living working for this organization why in the world would you want to do that to yourself?

Best post that I have seen on this site in a while. You are a true sports fan.

Agree. Niners are a top 5 org.

You guys are gonna upset our local Rams fans

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
You guys are gonna upset our local Rams fans

Rams 🐏 ain't got no fans. Hadn't you seen the games? It's Levi's South up in there

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Rams 🐏 ain't got no fans. Hadn't you seen the games? It's Levi's South up in there

There are probably about three Rams fans for every couple million ppl

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This. There's a world where you can say Brock is good and happy he's your guy AND understand that Burrow is just on another level. It's exactly like the Jimmy G is as good as Stafford s**t takes in here.

LA getting Burrow would be so on brand. They do have 2 1sts in the next draft

you don't want to see the Stafford thread. It's ugly.

Originally posted by redacted to prevent embarassment:

id rather have Jimmy G than Stafford..

Horrible

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder how many fans on this website ever go back and make lists like this foor all the othere teams in the league. I'm sure they would look similar. Like I posted above, why aren't all those teams that are bad every season and getting higher draft picks than the Niners winning.

Everyone with half a brain knows that the draft is a crapshoot. Unless you pick first overall you have to hope the player you want is available when your turn comes up. Then you have to hope he stays healthy and ends up being a good fit for your team. Sometimes it all falls your way and you look like a genius. When it doesn't then everyone says you suck. That's the life of a GM.

I could care less about what other teams do. Again, loser mentality.

I care what our team does and the simple fact is they have made some absolute boneheaded moves.

Taking Solomon Thomas at 1.3 instead of a QB when we didn't have a QB

Trading Buckner and replacing him with Kinlaw

Choosing Garappolo over Brady and Stafford

Trading 3- 1sts for Trey Lance.

Extending Aiuyk instead of taking the Pitt trade of a player and a 2nd

So ya, look around the league and I guarantee you will not find another front office that has made 5 boneheaded moves like that. One or two is enough to get a regime fired.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder how many fans on this website ever go back and make lists like this foor all the othere teams in the league. I'm sure they would look similar. Like I posted above, why aren't all those teams that are bad every season and getting higher draft picks than the Niners winning.

Everyone with half a brain knows that the draft is a crapshoot. Unless you pick first overall you have to hope the player you want is available when your turn comes up. Then you have to hope he stays healthy and ends up being a good fit for your team. Sometimes it all falls your way and you look like a genius. When it doesn't then everyone says you suck. That's the life of a GM.

I could care less about what other teams do. Again, loser mentality.

I care what our team does and the simple fact is they have made some absolute boneheaded moves.

Taking Solomon Thomas at 1.3 instead of a QB when we didn't have a QB

Trading Buckner and replacing him with Kinlaw

Choosing Garappolo over Brady and Stafford

Trading 3- 1sts for Trey Lance.

Extending Aiuyk instead of taking the Pitt trade of a player and a 2nd

So ya, look around the league and I guarantee you will not find another front office that has made 5 boneheaded moves like that. One or two is enough to get a regime fired.

Go make a rams account already.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder how many fans on this website ever go back and make lists like this foor all the othere teams in the league. I'm sure they would look similar. Like I posted above, why aren't all those teams that are bad every season and getting higher draft picks than the Niners winning.

Everyone with half a brain knows that the draft is a crapshoot. Unless you pick first overall you have to hope the player you want is available when your turn comes up. Then you have to hope he stays healthy and ends up being a good fit for your team. Sometimes it all falls your way and you look like a genius. When it doesn't then everyone says you suck. That's the life of a GM.

I could care less about what other teams do. Again, loser mentality.

I care what our team does and the simple fact is they have made some absolute boneheaded moves.

Taking Solomon Thomas at 1.3 instead of a QB when we didn't have a QB

Trading Buckner and replacing him with Kinlaw

Choosing Garappolo over Brady and Stafford

Trading 3- 1sts for Trey Lance.

Extending Aiuyk instead of taking the Pitt trade of a player and a 2nd

So ya, look around the league and I guarantee you will not find another front office that has made 5 boneheaded moves like that. One or two is enough to get a regime fired.

Go make a rams account already.

Not a bad idea. Here is a thought. A team has made all these boneheaded moves and lost a load of players to injury, including two of the best defensive players in the NFL, for most of the season, and ……. and they are still in the running for the playoffs. Yeah, let's keep b***hing about them and hope to get them fired. That's what fans do, right?

Originally posted by English:
Not a bad idea. Here is a thought. A team has made all these boneheaded moves and lost a load of players to injury, including two of the best defensive players in the NFL, for most of the season, and ……. and they are still in the running for the playoffs. Yeah, let's keep b***hing about them and hope to get them fired. That's what fans do, right?

No, fans apparently coddle our front office and real fans NEVER criticize.

who are you to tell me what to do and how to cheer for my team? Just because you don't criticize these guys makes you a bigger fan than me? Give me a break.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by English:
Not a bad idea. Here is a thought. A team has made all these boneheaded moves and lost a load of players to injury, including two of the best defensive players in the NFL, for most of the season, and ……. and they are still in the running for the playoffs. Yeah, let's keep b***hing about them and hope to get them fired. That's what fans do, right?

No, fans apparently coddle our front office and real fans NEVER criticize.

who are you to tell me what to do and how to cheer for my team? Just because you don't criticize these guys makes you a bigger fan than me? Give me a break.

What a defensive post! Guilty conscience? Fans generally don't criticise every single move their team makes. So why do you think other posters are assuming that you are a Rams fan?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder how many fans on this website ever go back and make lists like this foor all the othere teams in the league. I'm sure they would look similar. Like I posted above, why aren't all those teams that are bad every season and getting higher draft picks than the Niners winning.

Everyone with half a brain knows that the draft is a crapshoot. Unless you pick first overall you have to hope the player you want is available when your turn comes up. Then you have to hope he stays healthy and ends up being a good fit for your team. Sometimes it all falls your way and you look like a genius. When it doesn't then everyone says you suck. That's the life of a GM.

I could care less about what other teams do. Again, loser mentality.

I care what our team does and the simple fact is they have made some absolute boneheaded moves.

Taking Solomon Thomas at 1.3 instead of a QB when we didn't have a QB

Trading Buckner and replacing him with Kinlaw

Choosing Garappolo over Brady and Stafford

Trading 3- 1sts for Trey Lance.

Extending Aiuyk instead of taking the Pitt trade of a player and a 2nd

So ya, look around the league and I guarantee you will not find another front office that has made 5 boneheaded moves like that. One or two is enough to get a regime fired.

Ahhh yes.

The mighty power of the hindsight genius.

Love it.

I asked 'ol' ChatGPT to comment on the 49ers most recent drafting gaffs. Its feedback was not bad…

49ERS BUST TIERS (Cost vs. Return)

Tier 1 – Franchise Damage

• Trey Lance

Tier 2 – Massive Opportunity Cost

• Solomon Thomas
• A.J. Jenkins

Tier 3 – Overdrafted / Overpaid

• Mike McGlinchey
• Kentwan Balmer

Big Picture Takeaway
The irony:

• The 49ers are elite at roster construction,
• but their biggest misses come when they chase traits, upside, or "safe" personalities instead of difference-makers.

I won't argue with its observations. It should be noted that it found a bunch of stupid on the Rams, Seahawks, and Cards teams as well.

Originally posted by Mankster:
I asked 'ol' ChatGPT to comment on the 49ers most recent drafting gaffs. Its feedback was not bad…

49ERS BUST TIERS (Cost vs. Return)

Tier 1 – Franchise Damage

• Trey Lance

Tier 2 – Massive Opportunity Cost

• Solomon Thomas
• A.J. Jenkins

Tier 3 – Overdrafted / Overpaid

• Mike McGlinchey
• Kentwan Balmer

Big Picture Takeaway
The irony:

• The 49ers are elite at roster construction,
• but their biggest misses come when they chase traits, upside, or "safe" personalities instead of difference-makers.

I won't argue with its observations. It should be noted that it found a bunch of stupid on the Rams, Seahawks, and Cards teams as well.

McGlinchy was a fine pick. He's a league average starter at his position. Started every year of his rookie contract.Not amazing but solid enough.

Can't say the same about Kinlaw, Foster, Thomas, Lance or even Pearsall.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by English:
Not a bad idea. Here is a thought. A team has made all these boneheaded moves and lost a load of players to injury, including two of the best defensive players in the NFL, for most of the season, and ……. and they are still in the running for the playoffs. Yeah, let's keep b***hing about them and hope to get them fired. That's what fans do, right?

No, fans apparently coddle our front office and real fans NEVER criticize.

who are you to tell me what to do and how to cheer for my team? Just because you don't criticize these guys makes you a bigger fan than me? Give me a break.

Originally posted by English:
What a defensive post! Guilty conscience? Fans generally don't criticise every single move their team makes. So why do you think other posters are assuming that you are a Rams fan?

Defensive? You're cute.

You're assuming I care what other posters on here think.

unlike you and all of them I'm ok having a different opinion than the rest even if it means not fitting in with the herd that you desperately need.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Mankster:
I asked 'ol' ChatGPT to comment on the 49ers most recent drafting gaffs. Its feedback was not bad…

49ERS BUST TIERS (Cost vs. Return)

Tier 1 – Franchise Damage

• Trey Lance

Tier 2 – Massive Opportunity Cost

• Solomon Thomas
• A.J. Jenkins

Tier 3 – Overdrafted / Overpaid

• Mike McGlinchey
• Kentwan Balmer

Big Picture Takeaway
The irony:

• The 49ers are elite at roster construction,
• but their biggest misses come when they chase traits, upside, or "safe" personalities instead of difference-makers.

I won't argue with its observations. It should be noted that it found a bunch of stupid on the Rams, Seahawks, and Cards teams as well.

McGlinchy was a fine pick. He's a league average starter at his position. Started every year of his rookie contract.Not amazing but solid enough.

Can't say the same about Kinlaw, Foster, Thomas, Lance or even Pearsall.

While the Rams' aggressive "F them picks" strategy led to a Super Bowl win, it also resulted in several widely criticized moves by GM Les Snead since 2017.

Here are some of the Rams' most notable bad general manager moves:

Jared Goff Contract Extension and Trade In 2019, the Rams gave Goff a massive four-year, $134 million extension with $110 million in guarantees after a strong 2018 season. His performance soon declined, and just two years into the new deal, the team traded him to the Detroit Lions as part of the Matthew Stafford deal, resulting in a staggering $20+ million dead cap hit. The way the trade was handled and the large dead cap charge are frequently criticized aspects of the move.

Todd Gurley Contract Extension Similar to the Goff situation, the Rams signed running back Todd Gurley to a four-year, $60 million extension with an NFL-record $45 million in guaranteed money for a running back in 2018. However, knee issues soon developed into an arthritic condition that significantly limited his effectiveness. The Rams released him just two years later, incurring another massive dead cap penalty.

Acquisition of Marcus Peters The Rams acquired cornerback Marcus Peters in a 2018 trade that many analysts have since labeled as one of the team's worst in the past decade. While Peters had a strong start to his career, his tenure with the Rams was short-lived and inconsistent, as he was prone to giving up big plays due to his gambling style. The Rams ultimately overpaid for a player who didn't fit their long-term plans.

Lack of Investment in the Secondary (2025 offseason) A specific period of criticism came during the 2025 offseason when the GM made no significant moves to upgrade either the cornerback or safety positions, despite obvious needs. This decision was heavily questioned when injuries immediately plagued the secondary early in the season.

Overpays in the Draft The "F them picks" philosophy often meant trading away draft capital, but some specific draft-day overpays have been noted. Most recently, the trade-up for defensive tackle Braden Fiske in the second round of the 2024 draft was flagged by some analytics as one of the biggest draft overpays in recent history.