John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
The Rams will get it done while we trade 3-1sts for a QB who can't play QB

In hindsight, Lance was a costly and terrible pick for sure, but at some point we all just have to move on and look forward instead of always looking backward. JB is a fantastic QB for sure if we could swing a fair deal, but having blown the Lance attempt years ago has no bearing on future moves. They took a swing, it didn't work out, doesn't mean they shouldn't keep looking for ways to improve.

Take a swing sure but they are batting about .150
and have struck out 90% of the time

Originally posted by Heroism:
you don't want to see the Stafford thread. It's ugly.

Originally posted by redacted to prevent embarassment:

id rather have Jimmy G than Stafford..

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by English:
The Zone has found a new supply of smoking material. They want to trade for a somewhat injury prone quarterback and are offering, amongst other stuff, both of our QBs. Also, with our left tackle fast approaching retirement they want to prevent us from drafting a replacement for him by throwing in our first rounder. That way we can almost guarantee getting Burrow injured early next season. As to Aiyuk, I think he is walking at the end of the season so why should they include him in the deal?

Thank you for this common sense. 100%

Common sense? I'll try smoking this new material and see what I come up with…

Trade for a somewhat injury prone QB (Burrow) who is without question one of what would be considered a superstar elite QB in the league with:

Another somewhat injury prone QB (Purdy) and a backup QB who only made a resurgence this season with us because our QB had a similar injury to that somewhat injury prone QB that Zone smokers want to trade for.

First rounder being used on a left tackle to replace Trent; said with such certainty, common sense even, let's see how this one ages come draft time. This regime has proven time and time again against anything but certainty that OL is a priority for them in the first round; OL coach literally said they "prioritize" other positions.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-chris-foerster-on-lack-of-first-round-ol-invest-in-players-who-touch-the-ball-and-score-touchdowns

Without it; we can almost guarantee Burrow gets injured early next season. Well; Purdy got injured early this season with Trent, who is better than any (insert any upcoming draft first round OT).

As to Aiyuk; I don't really care, but it doesn't work like that. He can't (walk at the end of the season) and join any team he chooses, not up to him, he's under contract. He "walks" if the 49ers cut his ass. So if they can trade him and get something vice nothing; common sense tells me that's the better route.

Nice how you missed the point about QB's. Right now we have a starting qb and a backup who is well able to step out there and win. Burrow and Purdy both have had injury problems which is why I made the point about Mac. You ducked it so maybe put the pipe out and think it over. Getting rid of both of them would be more than unwise.

The team and its current FO have a solid history of playing their cards close to the chest. But if the 1st round pick has gone, it can't be used on a LT.

Regarding Aiyuk, if you seriously think any other team is going to give us significant value for him in a trade, which is what this is all about, then I see little point in continuing this discussion.

But you have backed yourself into a corner. If Purdy is so injury prone and if our second stringer is only resurgent because of the reason you state, then it seems highly unlikely that they are going to let their superstar elite qb go for such a poor return.

I'd be on board with trading multiple 1sts to get Burrow but doubt that would ever happen. That being said, can anyone see them trading picks to move up in the 1st for a tackle to replace TW? As long as the team is doing this well there's no chance of having a top 5 pick anytime soon, which it would almost certainly cost to draft a player like him.

Just curious but with all b***hing and complaining all you arm chair GMs do who do you give the credit to for the 49ers success since Lynch and Shanahan took over? Or are they not a successful organization in your eyes?

Some people think unless you have won a SB Championship you have had no success. I used to think like that but the older I've gotten the more I realize that isn't true. Especially since we are all just fans. It hurts when the 49ers lose a SB. Up until 2012 I had never experienced that. I look back on those seasons the 49ers made it to the SB and lost, NFC Championship Games and lost and as much as it hurt in the moment man those seasons were fun. Lot's of memories with friends and family being entertained by my favorite sports team.

I'm almost 50 and to me sucess as fan is defined as was I entertained? Were there lasting memories created? Yes and yes. I'm so appreciative of the job Kyle and John have done here bringing the 49ers back to relevancy. Do I wish they would have done some things differently? Absolutely. But they have done an awful lot right. If this is a rebuild year wow, it doesn't feel like one. 9-4 and currently the 4th toughest schedule by average DVOA.

I'll ask again who do you give the credit to for the 49ers mostly sustained success since 2019? Or would you prefer Terry Donahue, Trent Baalke, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Dennis Erikson, Jim Tomsula or Chip Kelly to come back because John and Kyle have done nothing in your eyes?

If you see success as winning a SB and nothing else I don't care what team you are fan of you will be disappointed the majority of your lifetime. As a fan and not someone who makes their living working for this organization why in the world would you want to do that to yourself?

Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:
Just curious but with all b***hing and complaining all you arm chair GMs do who do you give the credit to for the 49ers success since Lynch and Shanahan took over? Or are they not a successful organization in your eyes?

Some people think unless you have won a SB Championship you have had no success. I used to think like that but the older I've gotten the more I realize that isn't true. Especially since we are all just fans. It hurts when the 49ers lose a SB. Up until 2012 I had never experienced that. I look back on those seasons the 49ers made it to the SB and lost, NFC Championship Games and lost and as much as it hurt in the moment man those seasons were fun. Lot's of memories with friends and family being entertained by my favorite sports team.

I'm almost 50 and to me sucess as fan is defined as was I entertained? Were there lasting memories created? Yes and yes. I'm so appreciative of the job Kyle and John have done here bringing the 49ers back to relevancy. Do I wish they would have done some things differently? Absolutely. But they have done an awful lot right. If this is a rebuild year wow, it doesn't feel like one. 9-4 and currently the 4th toughest schedule by average DVOA.

I'll ask again who do you give the credit to for the 49ers mostly sustained success since 2019? Or would you prefer Terry Donahue, Trent Baalke, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Dennis Erikson, Jim Tomsula or Chip Kelly to come back because John and Kyle have done nothing in your eyes?

If you see success as winning a SB and nothing else I don't care what team you are fan of you will be disappointed the majority of your lifetime. As a fan and not someone who makes their living working for this organization why in the world would you want to do that to yourself?

I mean you've got people here who would prefer to just not make the playoffs this year because they think we'll lose.

Definitely not unique to niners fans, but people are strange

Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:
Just curious but with all b***hing and complaining all you arm chair GMs do who do you give the credit to for the 49ers success since Lynch and Shanahan took over? Or are they not a successful organization in your eyes?

Some people think unless you have won a SB Championship you have had no success. I used to think like that but the older I've gotten the more I realize that isn't true. Especially since we are all just fans. It hurts when the 49ers lose a SB. Up until 2012 I had never experienced that. I look back on those seasons the 49ers made it to the SB and lost, NFC Championship Games and lost and as much as it hurt in the moment man those seasons were fun. Lot's of memories with friends and family being entertained by my favorite sports team.

I'm almost 50 and to me sucess as fan is defined as was I entertained? Were there lasting memories created? Yes and yes. I'm so appreciative of the job Kyle and John have done here bringing the 49ers back to relevancy. Do I wish they would have done some things differently? Absolutely. But they have done an awful lot right. If this is a rebuild year wow, it doesn't feel like one. 9-4 and currently the 4th toughest schedule by average DVOA.

I'll ask again who do you give the credit to for the 49ers mostly sustained success since 2019? Or would you prefer Terry Donahue, Trent Baalke, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Dennis Erikson, Jim Tomsula or Chip Kelly to come back because John and Kyle have done nothing in your eyes?

If you see success as winning a SB and nothing else I don't care what team you are fan of you will be disappointed the majority of your lifetime. As a fan and not someone who makes their living working for this organization why in the world would you want to do that to yourself?

The Shanahan/Lynch era has been great. Great, well organized, and entertaining football for the majority of the games. Much better than watching the painful incompetence and comedy of errors during the Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary eras. SB win is the frosting on an already delicious cake.

Originally posted by father49er:
The Shanahan/Lynch era has been great. Great, well organized, and entertaining football for the majority of the games. Much better than watching the painful incompetence and comedy of errors during the Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary eras. SB win is the frosting on an already delicious cake.

Even as much as I loved the winning that Harbaugh brought, his offenses were so painful and boring to watch. Wouldn't lump him in with the likes of Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary, but so much happier with Kyle's offense.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by English:
The Zone has found a new supply of smoking material. They want to trade for a somewhat injury prone quarterback and are offering, amongst other stuff, both of our QBs. Also, with our left tackle fast approaching retirement they want to prevent us from drafting a replacement for him by throwing in our first rounder. That way we can almost guarantee getting Burrow injured early next season. As to Aiyuk, I think he is walking at the end of the season so why should they include him in the deal?

Thank you for this common sense. 100%

Common sense? I'll try smoking this new material and see what I come up with…

Trade for a somewhat injury prone QB (Burrow) who is without question one of what would be considered a superstar elite QB in the league with:

Another somewhat injury prone QB (Purdy) and a backup QB who only made a resurgence this season with us because our QB had a similar injury to that somewhat injury prone QB that Zone smokers want to trade for.

First rounder being used on a left tackle to replace Trent; said with such certainty, common sense even, let's see how this one ages come draft time. This regime has proven time and time again against anything but certainty that OL is a priority for them in the first round; OL coach literally said they "prioritize" other positions.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-chris-foerster-on-lack-of-first-round-ol-invest-in-players-who-touch-the-ball-and-score-touchdowns

Without it; we can almost guarantee Burrow gets injured early next season. Well; Purdy got injured early this season with Trent, who is better than any (insert any upcoming draft first round OT).

As to Aiyuk; I don't really care, but it doesn't work like that. He can't (walk at the end of the season) and join any team he chooses, not up to him, he's under contract. He "walks" if the 49ers cut his ass. So if they can trade him and get something vice nothing; common sense tells me that's the better route.

Nice how you missed the point about QB's. Right now we have a starting qb and a backup who is well able to step out there and win. Burrow and Purdy both have had injury problems which is why I made the point about Mac. You ducked it so maybe put the pipe out and think it over. Getting rid of both of them would be more than unwise.

The team and its current FO have a solid history of playing their cards close to the chest. But if the 1st round pick has gone, it can't be used on a LT.

Regarding Aiyuk, if you seriously think any other team is going to give us significant value for him in a trade, which is what this is all about, then I see little point in continuing this discussion.

But you have backed yourself into a corner. If Purdy is so injury prone and if our second stringer is only resurgent because of the reason you state, then it seems highly unlikely that they are going to let their superstar elite qb go for such a poor return.

Nope; I don't think Cincy will trade him, and it they do, it won't be to us anyways. I agree with the others that it would be on brand that he goes to the Rams.

I was just playing devils advocate because what you said is FAR from "common sense" IMO

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by father49er:
The Shanahan/Lynch era has been great. Great, well organized, and entertaining football for the majority of the games. Much better than watching the painful incompetence and comedy of errors during the Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary eras. SB win is the frosting on an already delicious cake.

Even as much as I loved the winning that Harbaugh brought, his offenses were so painful and boring to watch. Wouldn't lump him in with the likes of Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary, but so much happier with Kyle's offense.

Harbaughs offense was super predictable, it was just hard to stop.

Greg Roman's running game was extremely diverse though

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by father49er:
The Shanahan/Lynch era has been great. Great, well organized, and entertaining football for the majority of the games. Much better than watching the painful incompetence and comedy of errors during the Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary eras. SB win is the frosting on an already delicious cake.

Even as much as I loved the winning that Harbaugh brought, his offenses were so painful and boring to watch. Wouldn't lump him in with the likes of Eriksson, Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan, and Singletary, but so much happier with Kyle's offense.

Harbaughs offense was super predictable, it was just hard to stop.

Greg Roman's running game was extremely diverse though

I don't think it was nearly as diverse as Kyle's, was it? I seem to remember so many shifts and movement pre snap that there was regular problems getting the snap off in time.

Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:
Just curious but with all b***hing and complaining all you arm chair GMs do who do you give the credit to for the 49ers success since Lynch and Shanahan took over? Or are they not a successful organization in your eyes?

Some people think unless you have won a SB Championship you have had no success. I used to think like that but the older I've gotten the more I realize that isn't true. Especially since we are all just fans. It hurts when the 49ers lose a SB. Up until 2012 I had never experienced that. I look back on those seasons the 49ers made it to the SB and lost, NFC Championship Games and lost and as much as it hurt in the moment man those seasons were fun. Lot's of memories with friends and family being entertained by my favorite sports team.

I'm almost 50 and to me sucess as fan is defined as was I entertained? Were there lasting memories created? Yes and yes. I'm so appreciative of the job Kyle and John have done here bringing the 49ers back to relevancy. Do I wish they would have done some things differently? Absolutely. But they have done an awful lot right. If this is a rebuild year wow, it doesn't feel like one. 9-4 and currently the 4th toughest schedule by average DVOA.

I'll ask again who do you give the credit to for the 49ers mostly sustained success since 2019? Or would you prefer Terry Donahue, Trent Baalke, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Dennis Erikson, Jim Tomsula or Chip Kelly to come back because John and Kyle have done nothing in your eyes?

If you see success as winning a SB and nothing else I don't care what team you are fan of you will be disappointed the majority of your lifetime. As a fan and not someone who makes their living working for this organization why in the world would you want to do that to yourself?

Your participation medal is in the mail.

This whole post reeks of loser mentality

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Your participation medal is in the mail.

This whole post reeks of loser mentality

You've got that right! Some are satisfied with mediocrity.

Originally posted by Philippines_49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Your participation medal is in the mail.

This whole post reeks of loser mentality

You've got that right! Some are satisfied with mediocrity.

I don't see anything in the post that the two of you are referencing that implies a loser mentality or that the poster is satisfied with mediocrity. Perhaps you could justify your comments by quoting from the post that which seems to you to be loser mentality. Or are you just being unpleasant?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
The Rams will get it done while we trade 3-1sts for a QB who can't play QB

In hindsight, Lance was a costly and terrible pick for sure, but at some point we all just have to move on and look forward instead of always looking backward. JB is a fantastic QB for sure if we could swing a fair deal, but having blown the Lance attempt years ago has no bearing on future moves. They took a swing, it didn't work out, doesn't mean they shouldn't keep looking for ways to improve.

Take a swing sure but they are batting about .150
and have struck out 90% of the time

And yet we still won the NFC West 3 times, got to 4 NFC title games, and 2 Superbowl's, and this is after Lynch and Shanahan inherited a very crappy 49ers team. I think they are doing a lot of things right, but yeah, there have been some obvious misses as well. That applies to all 32 teams.