John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by miked1978:
All bc he didnt trade for a player on trade deadline day lol

What a fanbase we have. Can you at least tell us the moves you would have made? At least that one poster said he'd mortgage everything for QW, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Jermaine Johnson. Wouldn't have any draft picks or cap space for the next 2 years but we'd be in contention this year

Again, who cares about draft picks? Shanahan hasn't shown he will draft anyone capable of making a difference. Might as well trade for someone who is.

6-3, 5-0 in the NFC, easiest schedule in the league. Offensive guys coming back soon from injury. Super Bowl at home this year and we do nothing and some of you guys defend this resume. Un-real

This is one the worst and most horrifically inaccurate takes, just recklessly thrown around. The team wouldn't be winning if we hadn't drafted anyone who made a difference.

The entire starting offense and defense outside of center were either drafted or traded for.

I dare you to find a list this extensive of massive BUSTS / OVER-DRAFTED player and epic brutal personnel decisions. I won't even get into the extensions they handed out.

Trading a perennial All Pro in Buckner was bad enough but then we probably have two of the worst draft BUSTS EVER in Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance.

So ya, these guys have been fortunate we were terrible in 2018 and lucked into Nick Bosa and found Warner, Kittle and Purdy where we did.

But that still doesn't excuse the fact that they have blown so many TOP PREMIUM PICKS and cannot draft in the first 3 rounds to save their lives.

If we hit on two or three of those bust picks and kept a few of these players we probably win 1 if not 2 Super Bowls.

Traded Deforest Bucker
Let Mike McGlinchey leave
Let Talanoa Hufunga leave
Cut DJ Reed
Cut Leonard Floyd
Cut Maliek Collins
Solomon Thomas 1.3
Reuben Foster 1.31
CJ Beathard 3.104
Joe Williams 4.121
Dante Pettis 2.44
Jalen Hurd 3.67
Mitch Wishnowski 4.110
Javon Kinlaw 1.14
Trey Lance 1.3
Trey Sermon 3.88
Ambry Thomas 3.102
Drake Jackson 2.61
Tyrion Davis Price 3.93
Danny Gray 3.105
Jake Moody 3.99
Cameron Latu 3.101
Isaac Guerrendo 4.125
Jacob Cowing 4.135
Mykel Williams 1.11??
Nick Martin 3.75

Or, hear me out, if the OL decides to block Chris Jones we have two SB wins. They have made some poor drafting choices for sure, especially 21-23 drafts. But overall, they built a yearly contender out of an absolute dumpster fire in short order.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by miked1978:
All bc he didnt trade for a player on trade deadline day lol

What a fanbase we have. Can you at least tell us the moves you would have made? At least that one poster said he'd mortgage everything for QW, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Jermaine Johnson. Wouldn't have any draft picks or cap space for the next 2 years but we'd be in contention this year

Again, who cares about draft picks? Shanahan hasn't shown he will draft anyone capable of making a difference. Might as well trade for someone who is.

6-3, 5-0 in the NFC, easiest schedule in the league. Offensive guys coming back soon from injury. Super Bowl at home this year and we do nothing and some of you guys defend this resume. Un-real

This is one the worst and most horrifically inaccurate takes, just recklessly thrown around. The team wouldn't be winning if we hadn't drafted anyone who made a difference.

The entire starting offense and defense outside of center were either drafted or traded for.

I dare you to find a list this extensive of massive BUSTS / OVER-DRAFTED player and epic brutal personnel decisions. I won't even get into the extensions they handed out.

Trading a perennial All Pro in Buckner was bad enough but then we probably have two of the worst draft BUSTS EVER in Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance.

So ya, these guys have been fortunate we were terrible in 2018 and lucked into Nick Bosa and found Warner, Kittle and Purdy where we did.

But that still doesn't excuse the fact that they have blown so many TOP PREMIUM PICKS and cannot draft in the first 3 rounds to save their lives.

If we hit on two or three of those bust picks and kept a few of these players we probably win 1 if not 2 Super Bowls.

Traded Deforest Bucker
Let Mike McGlinchey leave
Let Talanoa Hufunga leave
Cut DJ Reed
Cut Leonard Floyd
Cut Maliek Collins
Solomon Thomas 1.3
Reuben Foster 1.31
CJ Beathard 3.104
Joe Williams 4.121
Dante Pettis 2.44
Jalen Hurd 3.67
Mitch Wishnowski 4.110
Javon Kinlaw 1.14
Trey Lance 1.3
Trey Sermon 3.88
Ambry Thomas 3.102
Drake Jackson 2.61
Tyrion Davis Price 3.93
Danny Gray 3.105
Jake Moody 3.99
Cameron Latu 3.101
Isaac Guerrendo 4.125
Jacob Cowing 4.135
Mykel Williams 1.11??
Nick Martin 3.75

Or, hear me out, if the OL decides to block Chris Jones we have two SB wins. They have made some poor drafting choices for sure, especially 21-23 drafts. But overall, they built a yearly contender out of an absolute dumpster fire in short order.

They made one really bad decision that screwed up 2 more drafts when they moved up to take Lance. They gambled and went all in. They lost. They've missed on other picks but not because they were bad choices. Sometimes players just end up not fitting in. Other times they keep getting injured. That was the case with Kinlaw. Now we see it with Pearsall and Cowing. On top of that many of their picks come late in the round because they've been successful in the years when they're healthy. Other teams selecting before them are taking players that they might have wanted. Nothing you can do about that.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They made one really bad decision that screwed up 2 more drafts when they moved up to take Lance. They gambled and went all in. They lost. They've missed on other picks but not because they were bad choices. Sometimes players just end up not fitting in. Other times they keep getting injured. That was the case with Kinlaw. Now we see it with Pearsall and Cowing. On top of that many of their picks come late in the round because they've been successful in the years when they're healthy. Other teams selecting before them are taking players that they might have wanted. Nothing you can do about that.

Sounds like a whole bunch of excuses for a regime who misses on half their top draft picks

Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Or, hear me out, if the OL decides to block Chris Jones we have two SB wins. They have made some poor drafting choices for sure, especially 21-23 drafts. But overall, they built a yearly contender out of an absolute dumpster fire in short order.

If we would have drafted better and didn't blow so many picks we might have had a better guard who was able to block Chris Jones.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They made one really bad decision that screwed up 2 more drafts when they moved up to take Lance. They gambled and went all in. They lost. They've missed on other picks but not because they were bad choices. Sometimes players just end up not fitting in. Other times they keep getting injured. That was the case with Kinlaw. Now we see it with Pearsall and Cowing. On top of that many of their picks come late in the round because they've been successful in the years when they're healthy. Other teams selecting before them are taking players that they might have wanted. Nothing you can do about that.

Sounds like a whole bunch of excuses for a regime who misses on half their top draft picks

Which is probably about par for the course with most teams, but you seem to be convinced that the Niners are unique in that aspect. Just look at the top of that 21' draft class. Almost every QB in it was a bust. Lawrence has been okay but nothing to special. Jones might end up being the most successful one from that class if he can keep on his current trajectory. Luckily, the team has been pretty good in the later rounds and have been able to find the kind of solid, core players you need to make a team successful in the long run. Though, I'll admit, a little more success in the early rounds would be nice.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Which is probably about par for the course with most teams, but you seem to be convinced that the Niners are unique in that aspect. Just look at the top of that 21' draft class. Almost every QB in it was a bust. Lawrence has been okay but nothing to special. Jones might end up being the most successful one from that class if he can keep on his current trajectory. Luckily, the team has been pretty good in the later rounds and have been able to find the kind of solid, core players you need to make a team successful in the long run. Though, I'll admit, a little more success in the early rounds would be nice.

Its absolutely true of most teams. Outside of Roseman i don't know of any regime that doesn't have big misses.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They made one really bad decision that screwed up 2 more drafts when they moved up to take Lance. They gambled and went all in. They lost. They've missed on other picks but not because they were bad choices. Sometimes players just end up not fitting in. Other times they keep getting injured. That was the case with Kinlaw. Now we see it with Pearsall and Cowing. On top of that many of their picks come late in the round because they've been successful in the years when they're healthy. Other teams selecting before them are taking players that they might have wanted. Nothing you can do about that.

Looking back on that now really hurts. After seeing what Shanahan can do with QBs, resurrecting the careers of Darnold and Jones, making Jimmy G look like a starter, and turning Mr Irrelevant into an MVP candidate, Lance is right up there with Jamarcus Russell as far as QB busts go.

10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

Drafting Lance was bad but bad draft picks happen because you're going off college performance. What's inexcusable is that Brock was third string after seeing Lance and Jimmy play for years in their system. After Brock started two games it was clear he was by far our best QB.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

Makes sense. We've had some truly dark days over that 25 year period.

But what does that have to do with the current regime? They would account for a little over 33% of that time period. Hardly relevant.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

Makes sense. We've had some truly dark days over that 25 year period.

But what does that have to do with the current regime? They would account for a little over 33% of that time period. Hardly relevant.

Lol don't expect too much from the complainers on this forum.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

Did you even read that lol, that is an old article talking about thru 2020

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

Ok enough. Read the title of this thread.

now see if you can work out when John Lynch, the subject of the thread, joined the team. Got that?

So, almost completely irrelevant, isn't it. I am going to assume that you are just posting this sort of rubbish to irritate other posters.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
10th worst drafting team since 2000

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-nfl-teams-drafting-effectiveness-from-2000-2020-by-comparing-player-performance-b0d79760af13

We need the drafting stats going back to 1946 if we're going to properly evaluate the job John Lynch has done.

Originally posted by English:
Ok enough. Read the title of this thread.

now see if you can work out when John Lynch, the subject of the thread, joined the team. Got that?

So, almost completely irrelevant, isn't it. I am going to assume that you are just posting this sort of rubbish to irritate other posters.

Ohhh. Do as everyone else and don't have a differing opinion or the big scary mods come in right??

You CAN criticize Lynch you know that right?

I listed all the player he has picked who were complete busts. It's not a small list.