John Lynch - 49ers GM

I'm not going to quote anyone, but i'm seeing a lot of complaining about QW and the Cowboys making the move. Comparing our FA and draft strategy to theirs is silly. QW might turn into a pineapple in that defense. You may never see him the same way again (which is what I think will happen). I told myself i'll be just fine if we do not do anything, and I am.

Making a big splash trade was not necessary this year due to all of the injuries. Trades are meant to enhance your team, not save it. Not performing a blockbuster trade also does not mean the FO is throwing in the towel. That's just a silly take I keep seeing pop-up as well.

I think Lynch has been great and sometimes we fans need to take a step back and look how other teams view us. We're respected and "always there" (according to my Colts fan coworkers. I live in Indy). Lynch is viewed as a top-notch GM and you just don't get rid of that. Same as Kyle. I, for one, will enjoy the rest of this season and hope we are a 2007/2011 NYG Team that gets hot in the playoffs. I actually think they are capable of that once the offense gets fully healthy.

Originally posted by Silky:
I'm not going to quote anyone, but i'm seeing a lot of complaining about QW and the Cowboys making the move. Comparing our FA and draft strategy to theirs is silly. QW might turn into a pineapple in that defense. You may never see him the same way again (which is what I think will happen). I told myself i'll be just fine if we do not do anything, and I am.

Making a big splash trade was not necessary this year due to all of the injuries. Trades are meant to enhance your team, not save it. Not performing a blockbuster trade also does not mean the FO is throwing in the towel. That's just a silly take I keep seeing pop-up as well.

I think Lynch has been great and sometimes we fans need to take a step back and look how other teams view us. We're respected and "always there" (according to my Colts fan coworkers. I live in Indy). Lynch is viewed as a top-notch GM and you just don't get rid of that. Same as Kyle. I, for one, will enjoy the rest of this season and hope we are a 2007/2011 NYG Team that gets hot in the playoffs. I actually think they are capable of that once the offense gets fully healthy.

Good post.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
They better hit on these picks this year or it's time to start having a serious conversation about replacing him, inspite of being Kyle's guy.

But, then again Stout is starting over Lucas to justify picks. So...

Just can't keep squandering numerous picks.

How do you think we draft compared to other teams? Do you think we are below average?

How do we compare versus the teams that are winning the Super Bowl. That is the exercise.

2020 Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20
2021 Tampa Bay 31, Kansas City 9
2022 Los Angeles Rams 23, Cincinnati 20
2023 Kansas City 38, Philadelphia 35
2024 Kansas City 25, San Francisco 22
2025 Philadelphia 40, Kansas City 22

I know it's ridiculously hard for Kyle haters to process this, but a one game sample size is a really dumb way to evaluate front offices and coaching staffs. Just saying.

I guess the Chiefs are big losers, they have the two most decisive losses on your list!

You're pretty dumb. Chiefs are legit contenders every single season. You think this team is that this year?!.

Well we do have a better record than the Chiefs right now and the Chiefs aren't ravaged with nearly the same number of critical injuries as we are so…

exactly! So keep your 1st and give up some thing else for a dependable affordable guy that is needed.

Seems like the good to great teams manage to stay healthy.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
While I certainly agree on the o-line being this regimes black eye, I don't agree with firing Lynch. Overall he has been very good and I cannot think of anyone else being obviously better (especially with Kyle). The injury s**t is the real elephant in the room and the league needs to make sure the next cba includes more offseason work (and less roids lol) A man can dream....

Now I do think they need to draft two pass rushers and two o line in the top 6 picks every year... its just ridiculous.

Maybe Rosen in PHI, Schneider in SEA, Ballard in IND

my bad, I meant anyone better who is available to replace him.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
I see your point but I think we have more pressing needs on our offensive line that we need to save picks for in 26 draft

And we all know there's ZERO chance Shanahan will draft an OT in round 1.

He has passed on Tristian Wirfs for Javon Kinlaw and Tyler Booker/Gray Zabel/Donovan Jackson/Josh Connerly/Josh Simmons for Mykel Williams

it's not 0% chance . They took an OT in the top 10 before so why woudlnt they do it again? You just like to throw stuff out and hope it sticks.

Mykel Williams was the BPA so lets not try to rewrite history here. All those guys you just mentioned would have been reaches. You woulda lost your s**t if they drafted Josh Simmons coming off a torn ACL injury.
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."

Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
While I certainly agree on the o-line being this regimes black eye, I don't agree with firing Lynch. Overall he has been very good and I cannot think of anyone else being obviously better (especially with Kyle). The injury s**t is the real elephant in the room and the league needs to make sure the next cba includes more offseason work (and less roids lol) A man can dream....

Now I do think they need to draft two pass rushers and two o line in the top 6 picks every year... its just ridiculous.

Maybe Rosen in PHI, Schneider in SEA, Ballard in IND

my bad, I meant anyone better who is available to replace him.

Originally posted by Silky:
I'm not going to quote anyone, but i'm seeing a lot of complaining about QW and the Cowboys making the move. Comparing our FA and draft strategy to theirs is silly. QW might turn into a pineapple in that defense. You may never see him the same way again (which is what I think will happen). I told myself i'll be just fine if we do not do anything, and I am.

Making a big splash trade was not necessary this year due to all of the injuries. Trades are meant to enhance your team, not save it. Not performing a blockbuster trade also does not mean the FO is throwing in the towel. That's just a silly take I keep seeing pop-up as well.

I think Lynch has been great and sometimes we fans need to take a step back and look how other teams view us. We're respected and "always there" (according to my Colts fan coworkers. I live in Indy). Lynch is viewed as a top-notch GM and you just don't get rid of that. Same as Kyle. I, for one, will enjoy the rest of this season and hope we are a 2007/2011 NYG Team that gets hot in the playoffs. I actually think they are capable of that once the offense gets fully healthy.

I think people are upset about the QW trade in particular for two reasons:

1. It's the one trade that happened at the deadline where most here think "man… we should've done that ourselves." For all the other trades that happened, the consensus seems to be "meh… not at that price for us" and for all the trades that didn't happen, including Hendrickson, the consensus seems to be "well 30 other teams also believed it wasn't worth the price." QW is the one trade that happened where we feel we could've really benefitted from it (short-term and long-term) and still retained our 2026 1st.

2. It's the Cowboys. They're 3-5-1 and their season effectively ended Monday night, because they are not finishing this season 7-1 or 8-0 with their remaining schedule. Yet they still made this splash move that affects 2026 and 2027 at least. So why not us? We're 6-3 so this trade could've benefitted us this year too unlike Dallas. We had more of a reason to do this trade than they did.

That's ultimately why the focus is on the QW trade. I hear your points just wanted to elaborate on the context.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."

Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

What's very basic and hard for you to understand is the Jets wanted MORE than a 2nd for J. Johnson and that's laughable. And 30 other teams (including your Eagles and Chiefs!) agreed. He's not worth more than a 2nd and he's absolutely not going to "boost the locker room" morale. If we had traded a 2nd + change for him, you would be laughing at Lynch right now and rightfully so.

The dude has one sack and two TFL since 2023.

This is very basic do you understand this?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by BP13:
you seem to have a very poor understanding of resource management. Keep in mind Bosa has a 42 million dollar cap hit in 2026. We just drafted two DT's in 2025. The 49ers aren't giving up on Collins and West after 8 games. We have needs far more important than DT, we could use edge, and O line in the future. it's beyond stupid to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. QW is really good, but the 49ers don't have the luxury of making that trade right now.

The whole point of building through the draft is to collect talent on cost-controlled rookie contracts. When you have a good foundation, you supplement that by adding veterans via free agency and trades.

also, just because every draft hasn't been a home run doesn't mean you avoid drafting players. You keep trying, eventually you hit on some.

West was a 4th round pick and can't see the field and is an healthy scratch even though we are slim on the Dline. You'd pass up acquiring a player because of West?

And who said anything about giving up on Collins and West? They were 2nd and 4th round picks and if they are quality backups or even decent starters that's a win. But most likely they will be nothing more than rotational players.

By that logic should we not look to upgrade at LB because we spent a 3rd on Nick Martin who is a healthy scratch and can't play ahead of Tatum Bethune, Curtis Robinson and Luke Gifford?

If we dropped a high 2nd rounder on a rotational DT we need a new FO

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It was him, then Nolen then Williams for me. Nolen looked pretty freaking good on MNF as well (ideal 3T)

Seemed like you was all about membou and Harmon. Not saying you didn't like Nolen and Williams but you were all on Harmon for the longest time.

Oh I like Harmon and I think he's actually played well so far…after getting 🚩 for injuries I didn't think you could go there at 11. I said that multiple times.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."

Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

What's very basic and hard for you to understand is the Jets wanted MORE than a 2nd for J. Johnson and that's laughable. And 30 other teams (including your Eagles and Chiefs!) agreed. He's not worth more than a 2nd and he's absolutely not going to "boost the locker room" morale. If we had traded a 2nd + change for him, you would be laughing at Lynch right now and rightfully so.

The dude has one sack and two TFL since 2023.

This is very basic do you understand this?

Do you hear yourself?!

2024 season

• Torn Achilles: Johnson tore his right Achilles tendon in Week 2 against the Tennessee Titans and missed the rest of the season.

And, yet this team was after him and so were others. Why, because they thought it would help their team.

The reason he is still in NY is because they did not have to give him up. Why, because he is under an affordable contract all the way through next year.

1 sack huh. Is that more or less what our 11th pick M. Williams has produced this year?

**For anyone else: I am not giving up on Williams just yet but you get the point.

Originally posted by Silky:
I'm not going to quote anyone, but i'm seeing a lot of complaining about QW and the Cowboys making the move. Comparing our FA and draft strategy to theirs is silly. QW might turn into a pineapple in that defense. You may never see him the same way again (which is what I think will happen). I told myself i'll be just fine if we do not do anything, and I am.

Making a big splash trade was not necessary this year due to all of the injuries. Trades are meant to enhance your team, not save it. Not performing a blockbuster trade also does not mean the FO is throwing in the towel. That's just a silly take I keep seeing pop-up as well.

I think Lynch has been great and sometimes we fans need to take a step back and look how other teams view us. We're respected and "always there" (according to my Colts fan coworkers. I live in Indy). Lynch is viewed as a top-notch GM and you just don't get rid of that. Same as Kyle. I, for one, will enjoy the rest of this season and hope we are a 2007/2011 NYG Team that gets hot in the playoffs. I actually think they are capable of that once the offense gets fully healthy.

All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Do you hear yourself?!

2024 season

• Torn Achilles: Johnson tore his right Achilles tendon in Week 2 against the Tennessee Titans and missed the rest of the season.

And, yet this team was after him and so were others. Why, because they thought it would help their team.

The reason he is still in NY is because they did not have to give him up. Why, because he is under an affordable contract all the way through next year.

1 sack huh. Is that more or less what our 11th pick M. Williams has produced this year?

**For anyone else: I am not giving up on Williams just yet but you get the point.

I mean $14M FGTD isn't "affordable" the only reason he's in NJ is because no one was willing to give up a 2nd rd pick…not because he was untouchable.

I wanted Johnson because I think he's a good young talent that would fit the scheme. I think a 2nd is a lot to give up and so did everyone else in the league apparently.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."

Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

What's very basic and hard for you to understand is the Jets wanted MORE than a 2nd for J. Johnson and that's laughable. And 30 other teams (including your Eagles and Chiefs!) agreed. He's not worth more than a 2nd and he's absolutely not going to "boost the locker room" morale. If we had traded a 2nd + change for him, you would be laughing at Lynch right now and rightfully so.

The dude has one sack and two TFL since 2023.

This is very basic do you understand this?

Do you hear yourself?!

2024 season

• Torn Achilles: Johnson tore his right Achilles tendon in Week 2 against the Tennessee Titans and missed the rest of the season.

And, yet this team was after him and so were others. Why, because they thought it would help their team.

The reason he is still in NY is because they did not have to give him up. Why, because he is under an affordable contract all the way through next year.

1 sack huh. Is that more or less what our 11th pick M. Williams has produced this year?

**For anyone else: I am not giving up on Williams just yet but you get the point.

Oh boy. You're actually providing a player's severe injury history (and the fact that he hasn't produced anything noteworthy since) as somehow a good thing? My goodness.

"This team was after him and so were others" and yet nobody traded for him. Why? Because he wasn't worth the Jets' price.