John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
They better hit on these picks this year or it's time to start having a serious conversation about replacing him, inspite of being Kyle's guy.

But, then again Stout is starting over Lucas to justify picks. So...

Just can't keep squandering numerous picks.

Stout is starting over Lucas cuz they see him as the future at the position. He's playing at a pretty high level for a rookie too. Lucas flashed in preseason and hade some plays when coming in for spot duty. Some of you are acting like the guy is an all pro sitting on the bench for crying out loud.

I think if you stop and analyze the drafting these guys have done when they think their roster is pretty much complete vs when they think they need to rebuild or retool, the results appear vastly different.

I also think they learned some hard lessons from the early whiffs - whether drafting tweeners, off the field red flags or guys who aren't all in on football.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Ya they might be done this year but they have QW for next year too and he fills a massive need for them with a proven player.

We'd have a 50% chance that a 1st round pick isn't a bust never mind a Pro Bowl level player under contract. The chance that a 2nd round pick is a Pro Bowl player is about 1%. Mazi Smith is a bust who's worth nothing,

Do you think the Colts regret trading a 1st for Deforest Buckner?

So we could have traded for QW, solved our DT need that we have had since we traded Buckner but instead we will most likely draft a DT with our 1st round pick and hope he isn't a bust. I would take the sure thing instead of hoping for something.

you seem to have a very poor understanding of resource management. Keep in mind Bosa has a 42 million dollar cap hit in 2026. We just drafted two DT's in 2025. The 49ers aren't giving up on Collins and West after 8 games. We have needs far more important than DT, we could use edge, and O line in the future. it's beyond stupid to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. QW is really good, but the 49ers don't have the luxury of making that trade right now.

The whole point of building through the draft is to collect talent on cost-controlled rookie contracts. When you have a good foundation, you supplement that by adding veterans via free agency and trades.

also, just because every draft hasn't been a home run doesn't mean you avoid drafting players. You keep trying, eventually you hit on some.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
I see your point but I think we have more pressing needs on our offensive line that we need to save picks for in 26 draft

And we all know there's ZERO chance Shanahan will draft an OT in round 1.

He has passed on Tristian Wirfs for Javon Kinlaw and Tyler Booker/Gray Zabel/Donovan Jackson/Josh Connerly/Josh Simmons for Mykel Williams

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

Originally posted by BP13:
you seem to have a very poor understanding of resource management. Keep in mind Bosa has a 42 million dollar cap hit in 2026. We just drafted two DT's in 2025. The 49ers aren't giving up on Collins and West after 8 games. We have needs far more important than DT, we could use edge, and O line in the future. it's beyond stupid to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. QW is really good, but the 49ers don't have the luxury of making that trade right now.

The whole point of building through the draft is to collect talent on cost-controlled rookie contracts. When you have a good foundation, you supplement that by adding veterans via free agency and trades.

also, just because every draft hasn't been a home run doesn't mean you avoid drafting players. You keep trying, eventually you hit on some.

West was a 4th round pick and can't see the field and is an healthy scratch even though we are slim on the Dline. You'd pass up acquiring a player because of West?

And who said anything about giving up on Collins and West? They were 2nd and 4th round picks and if they are quality backups or even decent starters that's a win. But most likely they will be nothing more than rotational players.

By that logic should we not look to upgrade at LB because we spent a 3rd on Nick Martin who is a healthy scratch and can't play ahead of Tatum Bethune, Curtis Robinson and Luke Gifford?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
I see your point but I think we have more pressing needs on our offensive line that we need to save picks for in 26 draft

And we all know there's ZERO chance Shanahan will draft an OT in round 1.

He has passed on Tristian Wirfs for Javon Kinlaw and Tyler Booker/Gray Zabel/Donovan Jackson/Josh Connerly/Josh Simmons for Mykel Williams

Drafting a OG at 11 is not a great gotcha moment lmo…and I don't think any of those dudes have played particularly well thus far.

Conerly has been pretty freaking bad at OT and Simmons has been awol for a couple weeks (think he just came back) toss in his injury past, not worth taking at 11.

you know who's played pretty damn well so far is my boy Membou, you loved giving me s**t about him

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
I see your point but I think we have more pressing needs on our offensive line that we need to save picks for in 26 draft

And we all know there's ZERO chance Shanahan will draft an OT in round 1.

He has passed on Tristian Wirfs for Javon Kinlaw and Tyler Booker/Gray Zabel/Donovan Jackson/Josh Connerly/Josh Simmons for Mykel Williams

Drafting a OG at 11 is not a great gotcha moment lmo…and I don't think any of those dudes have played particularly well thus far.

Conerly has been pretty freaking bad at OT and Simmons has been awol for a couple weeks (think he just came back) toss in his injury past, not worth taking at 11.

you know who's played pretty damn well so far as my boy Membou, you loved giving me s**t about him

I will give you credit where credit is due. Membou has been great.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I will give you credit where credit is due. Membou has been great.

It was him, then Nolen then Williams for me. Nolen looked pretty freaking good on MNF as well (ideal 3T)

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
They better hit on these picks this year or it's time to start having a serious conversation about replacing him, inspite of being Kyle's guy.

But, then again Stout is starting over Lucas to justify picks. So...

Just can't keep squandering numerous picks.

How do you think we draft compared to other teams? Do you think we are below average?

How do we compare versus the teams that are winning the Super Bowl. That is the exercise.

2020 Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20
2021 Tampa Bay 31, Kansas City 9
2022 Los Angeles Rams 23, Cincinnati 20
2023 Kansas City 38, Philadelphia 35
2024 Kansas City 25, San Francisco 22
2025 Philadelphia 40, Kansas City 22

I know it's ridiculously hard for Kyle haters to process this, but a one game sample size is a really dumb way to evaluate front offices and coaching staffs. Just saying.

I guess the Chiefs are big losers, they have the two most decisive losses on your list!

You're pretty dumb. Chiefs are legit contenders every single season and so have been the Eagles. They've lost BUT they've won. Sheesh

You think this team is that this year?!

Bet you anything that you wish this team had that chance every year and if you say otherwise. You are lying.

Now, I do think what DAL gave up for Quennin Williams is a bit much. But, where does anyone on here have the face to seriously critique it after the Lance debacle. A bunch of picks for an unknown.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It was him, then Nolen then Williams for me. Nolen looked pretty freaking good on MNF as well (ideal 3T)

Seemed like you was all about membou and Harmon. Not saying you didn't like Nolen and Williams but you were all on Harmon for the longest time.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It was him, then Nolen then Williams for me. Nolen looked pretty freaking good on MNF as well (ideal 3T)

Seemed like you was all about membou and Harmon. Not saying you didn't like Nolen and Williams but you were all on Harmon for the longest time.

I was for Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen. Nolen is a beast and gonna be a problem for the 9ers for a long time. But I don't see him staying with Arizona. lol

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

Originally posted by krizay:
Seemed like you was all about membou and Harmon. Not saying you didn't like Nolen and Williams but you were all on Harmon for the longest time.

Harmon has missed 2 games and still leads all rookie IDL in sacks(2) and pressures(14).

(that was my DL guy )

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
They better hit on these picks this year or it's time to start having a serious conversation about replacing him, inspite of being Kyle's guy.

But, then again Stout is starting over Lucas to justify picks. So...

Just can't keep squandering numerous picks.

How do you think we draft compared to other teams? Do you think we are below average?

How do we compare versus the teams that are winning the Super Bowl. That is the exercise.

2020 Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20
2021 Tampa Bay 31, Kansas City 9
2022 Los Angeles Rams 23, Cincinnati 20
2023 Kansas City 38, Philadelphia 35
2024 Kansas City 25, San Francisco 22
2025 Philadelphia 40, Kansas City 22

I know it's ridiculously hard for Kyle haters to process this, but a one game sample size is a really dumb way to evaluate front offices and coaching staffs. Just saying.

I guess the Chiefs are big losers, they have the two most decisive losses on your list!

You're pretty dumb. Chiefs are legit contenders every single season. You think this team is that this year?!.

Well we do have a better record than the Chiefs right now and the Chiefs aren't ravaged with nearly the same number of critical injuries as we are so…

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."