John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
No reason to trade for a guy this year unless he'll be apart of the team long-term. This isn't a year to make an Emmanuel Sanders or Chase Young type trade. We're not 1-2 players away from contending.

I gotta disagree, if you're first place in your division and have a glaring weakness. You address it ASAP, even more so now that only the #1 seed earns a bye. If there was ever a year to go all in it's this year. Especially now that Santa Clara is hosting the Super Bowl.

The Front Office has been taking care of cap space every season. And it's the same s**t, injured players and down seasons. It's time for Lynch to get his balls outta mommies purse and go all in!!!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
No reason to trade for a guy this year unless he'll be apart of the team long-term. This isn't a year to make an Emmanuel Sanders or Chase Young type trade. We're not 1-2 players away from contending.

I gotta disagree, if you're first place in your division and have a glaring weakness. You address it ASAP, even more so now that only the #1 seed earns a bye. If there was ever a year to go all in it's this year. Especially now that Santa Clara is hosting the Super Bowl.

The Front Office has been taking care of cap space every season. And it's the same s**t, injured players and down seasons. It's time for Lynch to get his balls outta mommies purse and go all in!!!!!

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by Digger:
Yeah that's a strange comment - with some of our best players out, we're 4-1 and leading our division, with home games vs the Rams and Seahawks to come. At Arizona but they just lost to the freakin' Titans, Murray might be hurt. Philly and Detroit are our main obstacles in the NFC, Philly certainly looked beatable today, Detroit tends to fold in the playoffs. Bills seem like the only for real for real team, and they have their hands full with the Pats right now. Injuries are taking out half the league. Why not go for it this year?

Absolutely. By the end of the year our luck could be a healthy Niners team while everyone else suddenly gets our (last year) bad luck

I don't wish injuries on anyone, but sometimes the tables turn

Literally the only argument against pushing the chips into the middle is Bosa's season-ending injury, but all it takes is one big trade to plug that hole in for 2025.

Indeed. It could take a while even if Niners wanted to sign someone right now... not one team is looking to tank at the moment, not even the Jets. That could change in a matter of two or three weeks from now if teams keep losing and what not

1-4 Raiders, Maxx Crosby??

IF (and it is a big if) we win this week at Tampa, then I would be shocked if the team don't make a trade move shortly after. At 5-1 and effectively already 1.5 games up on the division, this would be an opportunity to have a genuine crack at the playoffs.

At the much more likely 4-2 though, I can see us standing pat and seeing whether/how soon our injuries return and how the team actually look when they're not so shorthanded.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
No reason to trade for a guy this year unless he'll be apart of the team long-term. This isn't a year to make an Emmanuel Sanders or Chase Young type trade. We're not 1-2 players away from contending.

We are now literally tied for best record in the NFL for at least 4 days.

Why shouldn't this team consider itself in the hunt?

I would consider these reasons at least for why it might be premature to say we're in the hunt:

- Our best defensive player is out for the season. As a result, we haven't been able to pressure the QB at all. The only good QB we faced without Bosa easily tore us up.
- Our starting QB is hurt with no clear timetable on his return.
- We haven't gone a single game without losing 1-2 starters to injury. There's no real reason other than pure hope to think our injury problems are going to slow down.
- All of our wins have been 1 score games with 1-2 plays deciding the outcome. That's a little fluky.
- We can't run the ball worth a damn and it doesn't feel easily fixable.
- Our backup QB is also banged up, has a PCL issue, and has been getting hit a lot with our only other backup QB being a guy that wasn't on the team during training camp.
- Most analytics have our offense and defense in the middle of the pack in terms of DVOA and EPA.

I'm sure there are other reasons. Of course, all of these might change (other than the Bosa one) as the season continues.

The Bosa injury is literally WHY you trade for Hendrickson, though. Need a rental who's only under contract for this season to fill in that hole while it's empty? Then Hendrickson is your guy.

Honestly the only one I agree with is the running game one but that very well could be because Kittle is missing.

I don't want to invest legit trade capital for a rental though. If Hendrickson is the guy, then plan to sign him long term. IMO that's why going for someone else makes more sense. Younger, cheaper, long term value and won't cost as much.

Originally posted by paulk205:
IF (and it is a big if) we win this week at Tampa, then I would be shocked if the team don't make a trade move shortly after. At 5-1 and effectively already 1.5 games up on the division, this would be an opportunity to have a genuine crack at the playoffs.

At the much more likely 4-2 though, I can see us standing pat and seeing whether/how soon our injuries return and how the team actually look when they're not so shorthanded.

More than likely they make a move before the deadline, I don't think losing a game next week changes that. They have the weakest schedule in football and an "easy" path to the playoffs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
No reason to trade for a guy this year unless he'll be apart of the team long-term. This isn't a year to make an Emmanuel Sanders or Chase Young type trade. We're not 1-2 players away from contending.

We are now literally tied for best record in the NFL for at least 4 days.

Why shouldn't this team consider itself in the hunt?

I would consider these reasons at least for why it might be premature to say we're in the hunt:

- Our best defensive player is out for the season. As a result, we haven't been able to pressure the QB at all. The only good QB we faced without Bosa easily tore us up.
- Our starting QB is hurt with no clear timetable on his return.
- We haven't gone a single game without losing 1-2 starters to injury. There's no real reason other than pure hope to think our injury problems are going to slow down.
- All of our wins have been 1 score games with 1-2 plays deciding the outcome. That's a little fluky.
- We can't run the ball worth a damn and it doesn't feel easily fixable.
- Our backup QB is also banged up, has a PCL issue, and has been getting hit a lot with our only other backup QB being a guy that wasn't on the team during training camp.
- Most analytics have our offense and defense in the middle of the pack in terms of DVOA and EPA.

I'm sure there are other reasons. Of course, all of these might change (other than the Bosa one) as the season continues.

The Bosa injury is literally WHY you trade for Hendrickson, though. Need a rental who's only under contract for this season to fill in that hole while it's empty? Then Hendrickson is your guy.

Honestly the only one I agree with is the running game one but that very well could be because Kittle is missing.

I don't want to invest legit trade capital for a rental though. If Hendrickson is the guy, then plan to sign him long term. IMO that's why going for someone else makes more sense. Younger, cheaper, long term value and won't cost as much.

Say you give up a 2nd for Hendrickson & don't sign him long term, he is most likely bringing back a 3rd round comp pick because he is gonna sign that last big contract.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
More than likely they make a move before the deadline, I don't think losing a game next week changes that. They have the weakest schedule in football and an "easy" path to the playoffs.

According to a chart ESPN posted last week, based on the record of teams this season, going into this past weekend the 49ers had the #14 toughest schedule.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Say you give up a 2nd for Hendrickson & don't sign him long term, he is most likely bringing back a 3rd round comp pick because he is gonna sign that last big contract.

It's facts like this that make it seem like a no brainer a deal will get done . The NFL is locked in a parity quagmire and we're one of a few teams that have a head start on the season . Get it done Lynch.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
More than likely they make a move before the deadline, I don't think losing a game next week changes that. They have the weakest schedule in football and an "easy" path to the playoffs.

I don't deny that this is what is the most likely thing we will do. But I don't think it is what we should do: striking earlier rather than wait for the deadline makes more sense if we're sitting at 5-1 but with a bunch of tough injuries. People assume that BA will be the same receiver he was before the injury when he gets back. Perhaps he will be long term, but I can't see him being effective this year. Turf toes and hamstrings are also debilitating long-terms niggles with significant chances of setbacks, as our history shows: not just Purdy now, but also Willis and the Seattle receiver we got as a FA in the 2000s - forget his name now. Hamstrings sound innocuous, but like adductor injuries take forever to clear up for many people, and are tricky AF not to reinjure.

Right now the team can afford to sit tight for one more week. Our record is a bit fraudulent: we could have easily started 0-5 had the chips fallen the wrong way, a bit like 2010 when we were there or thereabouts for many games but still started 0-and-I don't remember how many. If we beat a legitimate-looking team like Tampa away, or if we blow some weaker opponent out for a change, then we are legit and we can't afford to hope that our injured players will come back soon and in a good enough shape to help out.

Originally posted by paulk205:
I don't deny that this is what is the most likely thing we will do. But I don't think it is what we should do: striking earlier rather than wait for the deadline makes more sense if we're sitting at 5-1 but with a bunch of tough injuries. People assume that BA will be the same receiver he was before the injury when he gets back. Perhaps he will be long term, but I can't see him being effective this year. Turf toes and hamstrings are also debilitating long-terms niggles with significant chances of setbacks, as our history shows: not just Purdy now, but also Willis and the Seattle receiver we got as a FA in the 2000s - forget his name now. Hamstrings sound innocuous, but like adductor injuries take forever to clear up for many people, and are tricky AF not to reinjure.

Right now the team can afford to sit tight for one more week. Our record is a bit fraudulent: we could have easily started 0-5 had the chips fallen the wrong way, a bit like 2010 when we were there or thereabouts for many games but still started 0-and-I don't remember how many. If we beat a legitimate-looking team like Tampa away, or if we blow some weaker opponent out for a change, then we are legit and we can't afford to hope that our injured players will come back soon and in a good enough shape to help out.

Teams have to be willing to sell. Always hard to know when that is exactly.

Philly could easily be 0-5 too.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't want to invest legit trade capital for a rental though. If Hendrickson is the guy, then plan to sign him long term. IMO that's why going for someone else makes more sense. Younger, cheaper, long term value and won't cost as much.

Great call!

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't want to invest legit trade capital for a rental though. If Hendrickson is the guy, then plan to sign him long term. IMO that's why going for someone else makes more sense. Younger, cheaper, long term value and won't cost as much.

Great call!

Losing a rental after winning a SB >> keeping a project while continuing the quest for 6

Originally posted by paulk205:
IF (and it is a big if) we win this week at Tampa, then I would be shocked if the team don't make a trade move shortly after. At 5-1 and effectively already 1.5 games up on the division, this would be an opportunity to have a genuine crack at the playoffs.

At the much more likely 4-2 though, I can see us standing pat and seeing whether/how soon our injuries return and how the team actually look when they're not so shorthanded.

Not gonna be easy but after that Rams win there's a bit of a "hey why not?" feeling to this game. Tampa has been squeaking by every opponent. Maybe we deliver that L to them and keep rolling as this weird magical team that should not be winning with the amount of injuries we have.