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genus49
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by English:
And the fact that CMC and Trent were not indicates that the team was not and is not in rebuild mode.
I dont like the phrase rebuild because it implies that they're starting from scratch, which they're clearly not. But I think it's fair to suggest that the team is in a transitional phase. They're essentially trying to hand off the baton from that last core to a new core which is currently being forged while also competing for a SB. That's why it's imperative they draft well this year. There's not much wiggle room here in the transition due to years of terrible drafting, and the team very well could end up starting from scratch if they miss in this year's draft.
I think it is quite clear that John Lynch saw his role as continuing to develop the roster by moving on from ageing players and bringing in youth all along. But various posters here seem quite gleefully to be insisting that trading Deebo makes it a rebuild. But anybody who was paying attention knew that the approach of a new contract for Purdy had to make an impact. Deebo's future, slightly sadly, was set in stone by the CMC trade.
Deebo felt like a goner as soon as the Aiyuk deal was done and we drafted Pearsall and Cowing.
Him producing a poor season on top of it just made it a certainty.
As you said some folks here are gleeful with the move so they can try to paint it a lot worse than it is.
You don't rebuild via WRs changing up. I don't see Aiyuk being traded but even IF that happens we have plenty of key players that a rebuild is not going to happen. It's a retool.
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
From that Lynch interview, doesn't seem like we are going to be big spenders this FA. Team wants to get younger and thats most likely through the draft. Hope our picks hit.
Sure, he wants the team to get younger but you can't do that in one season and at every position. I'd take Amari Cooper, Drew Dalman and Byron Murphy and maybe a few third and fourth tier free agents that would sign for one year. Honestly, I'd also give the Jets a call and see if they would trade Garrett Wilson.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
From that Lynch interview, doesn't seem like we are going to be big spenders this FA. Team wants to get younger and thats most likely through the draft. Hope our picks hit.
Sure, he wants the team to get younger but you can't do that in one season and at every position. I'd take Amari Cooper, Drew Dalman and Byron Murphy and maybe a few third and fourth tier free agents that would sign for one year. Honestly, I'd also give the Jets a call and see if they would trade Garrett Wilson.
Yea I just hope the one bigger signing is Dalman. Investing in a young C to protect Purdy is very important. Then fill in with next tier to build depth
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Got to make the team better going forward. No favors to players going forward. Players won't do us favors and we should do them none. This is business. Play and perform and get paid or don't and get the axe.
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Niners418:
Yea I just hope the one bigger signing is Dalman. Investing in a young C to protect Purdy is very important. Then fill in with next tier to build depth
A young C in FA?
Drew Dalman is set to become a free agent. Coleman Shelton also set to become a free agent, much better options than Brendel.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So essentially, we saved 17.5 million in cap space overall, but we take a hit of 16 million this year to gain 33 million next year.
thats how i see it..
but this trade somehow turned us into an expansion team and the front office is fighting like the hatfields and McCoys lol
Our cap number went down significantly in a year which should be a restock if the belief is we're still in window. It was a bad move IMO, should have waited or designated a post June 1 to free up more capital for F/A.
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So essentially, we saved 17.5 million in cap space overall, but we take a hit of 16 million this year to gain 33 million next year.
thats how i see it..
but this trade somehow turned us into an expansion team and the front office is fighting like the hatfields and McCoys lol
Our cap number went down significantly in a year which should be a restock if the belief is we're still in window. It was a bad move IMO, should have waited or designated a post June 1 to free up more capital for F/A.
letting him go and not getting anything in return is a bad move.. that move also makes deebo taking 2026 cap space
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i'll tell you with the way this offseason has started i am very enthusiastic. headed in the right direction
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^ tbh I don't think TK is trying to stir things up, I feel his reporting has been very spot on and likes this FO/HC. Was not necessarily the case back in the day when Baalke and JH were here
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ tbh I don't think TK is trying to stir things up, I feel his reporting has been very spot on and likes this FO/HC. Was not necessarily the case back in the day when Baalke and JH were here
People here take the extreme position way too often. There's nothing inconsistent between TK's observation and Jed also trusting Shanalynch. Jed (and Kyle and John) can all believe previous decisions didn't work out as desired and also believe they know how to make the proper adjustments moving forward.
Not everything is a commentary suggesting the sun is going supernova, Niner Talk.
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Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
I am not gonna lie, I am losing faith in Lynch. Way too many mistakes.
The Trey Lance debacle, Aiyuk, Deebo the o line and D line. It's one f**k up after another.
This off season has to be his last if he doesn't get it right.. ….We have what looks to be a real easy schedule next year so I expect a playoff run only now we could face a motivated Deebo in the playoffs. Makes you wonder what the Texans offered if we opted for a NFC rival to trade with for a bag of peanuts.
Not impressed.
I am sorry but this post completely leaves out the playoff runs of recent years.
Many teams without lynch haven't even sniffed the playoffs or lost early.
Conveniently leaves it out.
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
We lucked out with the Purdy pick. Then we have a great opportunity to build a Superbowl winning team as we have our QB on his rookie contract and we constantly whiffed on our early picks in the draft.
Free agency has been a disaster, See Hargreaves and Campbell.
The window is closed. We have way too many holes to fill. Philly will dominate us as will the Lions and the Commanders. We'll be lucky to beat the Rams ffs!
Opportunity lost. As I said I'm not impressed!
The Lions who lost both coordinators and couldn't manage a single playoff win? Okay.
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
DC is money already paid and it's not preventing us signing players
we're rolling over 45m and get a salary cap but.
Deebo off the books next year frees up more cap
That's not the point. Dead cap is money being wasted on players that are no longer working for the team, and there are clear signs now that Yorks are unhappy about their money being wasted. That's the point. It has nothing to do with the cap. It has to do with the Yorks' wasted money.
I remember this old article on KNBR.com that talked about how the Yorks absolutely despised paying people not to work. I wish I could find it. I'm sure that sentiment is still relevant today. 
Dead cap is money already spent. How is it being wasted? They aren't actually getting more money, it's already been paid. It just hasn't been accounted for.
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Mar 2, 2025 at 3:22 PM ]
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Just an FYI on why a Allen for Deebo deal wouldn't have made sense, Allen makes $17M for any team trading for him, he's 30 or will be 30, wants a new deal, last yr of deal, already losing $15.68M with the deal, trading for Allen means another $17M loss, and the idea of restructuring the deal makes zero sense, adds dead money for 2026 when they need to limit the dead money going forward.
Also FYI the 49ers have the following 11 draft picks.
Own 1st- 11th
Own 2nd- 43rd
Own 3rd- 75th
Comp 3rd- 99th
Own 4th- 111th
Comp 4th- 137th
Comp 4th- 138th
WAS 5th- 148th
Own 6th- 187th
Own 7th- 228th
Comp 7th- 254th
The 4th rd comp picks & 7th rd comp pick are projections via Nick Korte of OverTheCap.com.