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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

So give up a ton of draft picks and add like $60 million in new spending to a roster that's already limited in depth while having to extend your QB?

What in the New Orleans Saints is this?

No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Feb 4, 2025 at 4:35 PM ]
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

This. We can just draft a center. There now we are good
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

You don't have to give in to their demands, you can offer something competitive that obviously involves #11 and some more and im fine with that. So no we're not blowing up a lot of your draft ammo. We spend around 12mil for a Center that has the same pass blocking stats as someone you claim the 49ers should've got in Zach Frazier and hes a better run blocker than him according to PFF. You can even throw in Frank Ragnow, which can be considered of one of the top centers in the league and he his pass blocking is worst that Dalman according to PFF. It would instantly make our line better and protect said qb extension that you mentioned.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/frank-ragnow/39137

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/zach-frazier/123419

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/drew-dalman/52270

DJ Jones if at the right price would be player that solves a need for us in the DL.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Feb 4, 2025 at 5:00 PM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

This. We can just draft a center. There now we are good

You think Kyle is the type to start a rookie center? Look at his past FA signings who were centers. Richburg and Mack
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

This. We can just draft a center. There now we are good

You think Kyle is the type to start a rookie center? Look at his past FA signings who were centers. Richburg and Mack

It would be a first for Kyle to start a rookie center IIRC. Kyle going by history will go the route I suggested for a center if we were to replace Brendel, but things can change.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

This. We can just draft a center. There now we are good

You think Kyle is the type to start a rookie center? Look at his past FA signings who were centers. Richburg and Mack

Kyle would do it if it means his defense gets Garrett opposite of Bosa
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

Isn't Garrett's last two years at vet min?
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

Isn't Garrett's last two years at vet min?

He shouldn't step on a football field until he gets a new contract.
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
No one said a ton of picks it says draft a bunch a dawgs, can't do that without picks. Dalman would be a great signing for us for the right amount, same with DJ Jones for the right number. Where in the New Orlean Saints is this? 49ers would be instant favs to win it all if this happened. Restructure Fred and Kittle will free up a load of cap space. It would literally solve most of our problems.

Garrett will take at minimum two first round picks, a 3rd or 4th and a future 3rd or 4th. That's blowing up a lot of your draft ammo while taking on another massive salary when they're already top heavy and that's before spending even more on a center that can't pass block and DJ Jones.

Isn't Garrett's last two years at vet min?

I don't think its vet min, but he has no guaranteed money left so will likely want a new deal to whoever he is traded to.
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Isn't Garrett's last two years at vet min?

He will 100% want a new deal locked in with any team trading for him, much like when Khalil Mack was traded.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
So give up a ton of draft picks and add like $60 million in new spending to a roster that's already limited in depth while having to extend your QB?

What in the New Orleans Saints is this?

You right we have to trust the process and put the pass rush all on Bosa's shoulders like we have since 2019 I mean that's why we gave him that mega contact right?
Originally posted by Since07:
You right we have to trust the process and put the pass rush all on Bosa's shoulders like we have since 2019 I mean that's why we gave him that mega contact right?

Why can't they do what the Rams did? The Rams rebuilt their entire defense via the draft in two years. Without any high draft picks. Now they have a ton of financial flexibility that will allow them to pursue higher salary players if they want to.

At some point you have to trust your scouting and just draft well or everyone will get fired anyways.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 5, 2025 at 6:54 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Since07:
You right we have to trust the process and put the pass rush all on Bosa's shoulders like we have since 2019 I mean that's why we gave him that mega contact right?

Why can't they do what the Rams did? The Rams rebuilt their entire defense via the draft in two years. Without any high draft picks. Now they have a ton of financial flexibility that will allow them to pursue higher salary players if they want to.

At some point you have to trust your scouting and just draft well or everyone will get fired anyways.

Yup. We gotta build off last year's good looking draft and whatever thought process we used to build that board and make those picks should be applied to this class with a strong emphasis on improving the trenches.

Gotta give the Rams credit, 2023 draft in particular. I was kind of laughing at them at the time cuz they had SO many draft picks 14 picks is unheard of and that was without a 1st rounder but boy did they land some studs.

We need the influx of young, hungry talent but have to still hit the picks. Eliminate the red flags/injury risks early on in the draft. Take those changes later on if you're going to take those chances.
Originally posted by genus49:
Yup. We gotta build off last year's good looking draft and whatever thought process we used to build that board and make those picks should be applied to this class with a strong emphasis on improving the trenches.

Gotta give the Rams credit, 2023 draft in particular. I was kind of laughing at them at the time cuz they had SO many draft picks 14 picks is unheard of and that was without a 1st rounder but boy did they land some studs.

We need the influx of young, hungry talent but have to still hit the picks. Eliminate the red flags/injury risks early on in the draft. Take those changes later on if you're going to take those chances.

People focus on Purdy's contract but the teams that are good consistently just draft well. You can't contend without it. Its not a big QB contract that cripples teams, its bad drafting and having to overspend in FA to compensate that gets them.
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