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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If we're going to count Lawrence as a franchise quarterback already, then we may as well go ahead and count Dak, Cousins, Kyler, and Stafford if healthy.

But if you take his name off the list then I agree with your point.

Lawrence put up the following

4k pass yds
25 pass Td
8 Int

he got MVP votes
Pro Bowl
Jags beat Chargers (Herbert) in postseason

I like Cousins but he's old and on the way out
Dak melted down and led NFL in INTs
Kyler is very injured
Stafford also
Originally posted by JoseCortez:


John mcvay won superbowls.

John Lynch drafts Solomon Thomas and Javon kinlaw

Todd Shell, Dexter Carter, Dana Hall, Todd Kelly
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:


John mcvay won superbowls.

John Lynch drafts Solomon Thomas and Javon kinlaw

Todd Shell, Dexter Carter, Dana Hall, Todd Kelly

Someone inform Jose that JL is Stanford educated, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame which includes the complementary gold jacket, he's in the Tampa Bay ring of honor which probably comes with free perks as well. He lands the #1 player in FA on day 1 of FA. He faced Rice in the Super Bowl and won. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he knows what he's doing.
Franchise QB isn't some defined term that everyone agrees on. A lot of people consider any guy that can start for 4 or 5 years a franchise QB. I think it's more than tht. To me a franchise QB is someone that is the face of the team and carries them all season long. Not necessarily by having ig games every week but being a team leader that can rise to the occasion when he's needed. There aren't a lot of them during any given time. Maybe 5. Maybe you could stretch it to 8.

But that's just my interpretation of the term. Everyone has their own just like who deserves to be in the HOF.
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Matt Maiocco thinks the 49ers have gotten better despite all their losses. even better than they were before. mainly due in part because of Hargrave


Part of me thinks that Eagles D was over-hyped because they truly had a weak schedule. Look at some of those offenses they faced. You could say the same about us.

I also believe it's not anyone's fault that their schedule was easy. Just destroy the opponent put in front of you and they did. Glad we got the #1 FA

I watched a video on YouTube earlier breaking down the eagles d line - javon Hargreaves is a very good run blocker and pass rusher (best in the lead IDL wise). The entire defense really went through him. The issue with their defense was that the others weren't that great at run blocking.

Gravedigger is going to be SPECIAL on this line. It's either him or bosa, can't double team all of them. This d line is going to be WICKED

Statistically, the eagles and us had the "easiest schedules". But we both usually dominated the bad teams and made it really hard for the good teams to beat us.

gravediggers biggest plus is that we will finally be able to Chris Jones type pressure and that's always a game changer.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 21, 2023 at 2:46 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Someone inform Jose that JL is Stanford educated, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame which includes the complementary gold jacket, he's in the Tampa Bay ring of honor which probably comes with free perks as well. He lands the #1 player in FA on day 1 of FA. He our h Rice in the Super Bowl and won. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he knows what he's doing.

How does any of this contribute to Lynch being a good GM? He is not the worst GM but certainly not the best. The early round drafting was have to make a marked improvement to hit that accolade.
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Someone inform Jose that JL is Stanford educated, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame which includes the complementary gold jacket, he's in the Tampa Bay ring of honor which probably comes with free perks as well. He lands the #1 player in FA on day 1 of FA. He our h Rice in the Super Bowl and won. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he knows what he's doing.

How does any of this contribute to Lynch being a good GM? He is not the worst GM but certainly not the best. The early round drafting was have to make a marked improvement to hit that accolade.



look how loaded we are top to bottom as an entire team only weak spot is QB which is up to KS..

You realize he's won executive of the year for us, right? I haven't seen SF this loaded since 97 or 94
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Matt Maiocco thinks the 49ers have gotten better despite all their losses. even better than they were before. mainly due in part because of Hargrave


Part of me thinks that Eagles D was over-hyped because they truly had a weak schedule. Look at some of those offenses they faced. You could say the same about us.

I also believe it's not anyone's fault that their schedule was easy. Just destroy the opponent put in front of you and they did. Glad we got the #1 FA

I watched a video on YouTube earlier breaking down the eagles d line - javon Hargreaves is a very good run blocker and pass rusher (best in the lead IDL wise). The entire defense really went through him. The issue with their defense was that the others weren't that great at run blocking.

Gravedigger is going to be SPECIAL on this line. It's either him or bosa, can't double team all of them. This d line is going to be WICKED

Statistically, the eagles and us had the "easiest schedules". But we both usually dominated the bad teams and made it really hard for the good teams to beat us.

gravediggers biggest plus is that we will finally be able to Chris Jones type pressure and that's always a game changer.
🤔
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the last two off seasons have been things of beauty, with this one being better than the last. The quality of players that we've got, along with their flexibility, and attacking positions of need… you can just see how much he's grown in the role. We haven't had some of the misses we had early on.

I know he's went back and forth with leaving the role for more family time, and I wouldn't fault him, but he's been better than ever.

the whole front office is a well oiled machine. Who knew that when you have a diverse front office of experienced minds, who feel comfortable speaking up, that the results would be so beautiful! Hahah I love it. Very proud of this organization.

I think Lynch might be the best GM we've ever had.



John mcvay won superbowls.

John Lynch drafts Solomon Thomas and Javon kinlaw

Apples and oranges.

Walsh was the one who controlled the draft, trades and personnel moves. McVay handled the contracts and organized the scouts and initiated any trades at the behest of Walsh.

Lynch controls the draft, FA aqq. and trades, Paraag the contracts, Shanahan has final say of the final Roster and QBs and coaching hires. They do talk with each other and coaches though.

Like all organizations-there will always be hits and misses.

Walsh has had his and so has Lynch.

Plus Walsh and McVay didn't deal with a cap during the majority or their SB run except #5.
Originally posted by WildBill:
Apples and oranges.

Walsh was the one who controlled the draft, trades and personnel moves. McVay handled the contracts and organized the scouts and initiated any trades at the behest of Walsh.

Lynch controls the draft, FA aqq. and trades, Paraag the contracts, Shanahan has final say of the final Roster and QBs and coaching hires. They do talk with each other and coaches though.

Like all organizations-there will always be hits and misses.

Walsh has had his and so has Lynch.

Plus Walsh and McVay didn't deal with a cap during the majority or their SB run except #5.

good post.. but come on here we are complaining about Lynch? This team is stacked out of its mind. should be writing a group WZ thank you card

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by WildBill:
Apples and oranges.

Walsh was the one who controlled the draft, trades and personnel moves. McVay handled the contracts and organized the scouts and initiated any trades at the behest of Walsh.

Lynch controls the draft, FA aqq. and trades, Paraag the contracts, Shanahan has final say of the final Roster and QBs and coaching hires. They do talk with each other and coaches though.

Like all organizations-there will always be hits and misses.

Walsh has had his and so has Lynch.

Plus Walsh and McVay didn't deal with a cap during the majority or their SB run except #5.

good post.. but come on here we are complaining about Lynch? This team is stacked out of its mind. should be writing a group WZ thank you card

I am not one of them. I went through the Joe Thomas fiasco and the Ballke stubborn head of not working with his coaches.
Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by WildBill:
Apples and oranges.

Walsh was the one who controlled the draft, trades and personnel moves. McVay handled the contracts and organized the scouts and initiated any trades at the behest of Walsh.

Lynch controls the draft, FA aqq. and trades, Paraag the contracts, Shanahan has final say of the final Roster and QBs and coaching hires. They do talk with each other and coaches though.

Like all organizations-there will always be hits and misses.

Walsh has had his and so has Lynch.

Plus Walsh and McVay didn't deal with a cap during the majority or their SB run except #5.

good post.. but come on here we are complaining about Lynch? This team is stacked out of its mind. should be writing a group WZ thank you card

I am not one of them. I went through the Joe Thomas fiasco and the Ballke stubborn head of not working with his coaches.

Yup not directed at you more the JL detractors
my bad if I phrased that wrong
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Mar 21, 2023 at 4:41 PM ]
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Matt Maiocco thinks the 49ers have gotten better despite all their losses. even better than they were before. mainly due in part because of Hargrave


Part of me thinks that Eagles D was over-hyped because they truly had a weak schedule. Look at some of those offenses they faced. You could say the same about us.

I also believe it's not anyone's fault that their schedule was easy. Just destroy the opponent put in front of you and they did. Glad we got the #1 FA

I watched a video on YouTube earlier breaking down the eagles d line - javon Hargreaves is a very good run blocker and pass rusher (best in the lead IDL wise). The entire defense really went through him. The issue with their defense was that the others weren't that great at run blocking.

Gravedigger is going to be SPECIAL on this line. It's either him or bosa, can't double team all of them. This d line is going to be WICKED

Statistically, the eagles and us had the "easiest schedules". But we both usually dominated the bad teams and made it really hard for the good teams to beat us.

gravediggers biggest plus is that we will finally be able to Chris Jones type pressure and that's always a game changer.
🤔

Coming out of college, he was actually drafted for his run stuffing ability and then he developed a ruthless pass rush arsenal to compliment it. He runs a sub 5.0 40 for a man over 300lbs, remarkable. He also squats 700+ lbs.

dude is a monster and this season will be our best defense yet!
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Someone inform Jose that JL is Stanford educated, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame which includes the complementary gold jacket, he's in the Tampa Bay ring of honor which probably comes with free perks as well. He lands the #1 player in FA on day 1 of FA. He our h Rice in the Super Bowl and won. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he knows what he's doing.

How does any of this contribute to Lynch being a good GM? He is not the worst GM but certainly not the best. The early round drafting was have to make a marked improvement to hit that accolade.



look how loaded we are top to bottom as an entire team only weak spot is QB which is up to KS..

You realize he's won executive of the year for us, right? I haven't seen SF this loaded since 97 or 94

Hi, chiming in to simply say that our team is very well built. Obviously, there were some early draft picks which didn't play out. But one could see the rationale of the picks.

More important: The team operates at all levels very well, top to bottom. The culture is wonderful, between players, coaches, management, scouting, etc. The niners have done well building depth, talent across the board, utilizing FA, drafting, trades, draft compensation, etc. There is no drama, etc. That the niners haven't won the super bowl, I mostly chalk up to bad luck. I'm still smarting from the loss to the Eagles, that was pure bad luck, and I think the Niners would've won if Purdy is healthy.

We fans are really lucky, this had been fun to watch, especially when I look at all the turnover across the league. The best teams have long term continuity. This offseason has been another example of really strong team building principles applied.
[ Edited by Fasteddy on Mar 22, 2023 at 10:03 AM ]
Originally posted by Fasteddy:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Someone inform Jose that JL is Stanford educated, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame which includes the complementary gold jacket, he's in the Tampa Bay ring of honor which probably comes with free perks as well. He lands the #1 player in FA on day 1 of FA. He our h Rice in the Super Bowl and won. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he knows what he's doing.

How does any of this contribute to Lynch being a good GM? He is not the worst GM but certainly not the best. The early round drafting was have to make a marked improvement to hit that accolade.



look how loaded we are top to bottom as an entire team only weak spot is QB which is up to KS..

You realize he's won executive of the year for us, right? I haven't seen SF this loaded since 97 or 94

Hi, chiming in to simply say that our team is very well built. Obviously, there were some early draft picks which didn't play out. But one could see the rationale of the picks.

More important: The team operates at all levels very well, top to bottom. The culture is wonderful, between players, coaches, management, scouting, etc. The niners have done well building depth, talent across the board, utilizing FA, drafting, trades, draft compensation, etc. There is no drama, etc. That the niners haven't won the super bowl, I mostly chalk up to bad luck. I'm still smarting from the loss to the Eagles, that was pure bad luck, and I think the Niners would've won if Purdy is healthy.

We fans are really lucky, this had been fun to watch, especially when I look at all the turnover across the league. The best teams have long term continuity. This offseason has been another example of really strong team building principles applied.



if you watched Kittle he recently did a thing on Theo Von, he was asked if any guys in the league care more about their stats than wins, Kittle quickly responded, not on my team..

room full of team first guys, all elite, George talked about how stacked the team is
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