Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was reading Lynch's comments regarding Jimmy and I hope he's just trying to drum up trade interest. I really don't want to see him on the Niners for another year. We've been down that road and we know we need an upgrade. Holding back Trey for another year is just going to delay the upgrade. Even if they start Trey, you don't want him looking over his shoulder all season. He needs to worry about defenses not Jimmy.
So, it was okay for Jimmy to be in that position last year but Lance shouldn't have to do it because, what, he's too emotionally fragile? I will gladly admit that the situation with Jimmy probably isn't what anyone expected going into the new season. If they are serious about not releasing him in the event they're unable to swing a trade somewhere then the only way this would work going forward is to have a truly open competition for the job through training camp and pre-season and let the best man win. The team would have to know that each guy was given a fair shot and that the decision was made to go with the guy who gave them the best chance to win not because of his draft status or veteran presence and relationship with the players but because he was judged by all of them to be the best guy for the job. Any other option might open the door to issues down the road. It feels like the team has kind of turned the page on Jimmy so I'm not sure they will want to go back down that road but if he's on the roster come training camp and is able to throw it seems to me they will have to let him compete. He has probably earned too much goodwill in the locker room to just be relegated to an afterthought. Time will tell I guess.
No, I don't want them taking away reps from Lance, which he sorely needs, to hold a competition with Jimmy. They already know everything that Jimmy is capable of, so there is no reason to do that.
If they want to let Jimmy throw once he's healthy, then it makes sense to have him work exclusively with the 2nd group.
So Lance shouldn't have to compete for a job that he's claiming is his. You want to give him the job but you don't want him to earn it. Got it..
No, Lance shouldn't have to compete in an open competition for the job. How many QBs around the league compete in an open competition each year? Lance and Jimmy didn't compete in an open competition last year and it made more sense then to hold one than it does now. Again, they already know what Jimmy is capable of at this point, so what would even be the point in giving those snaps to him?
That doesn't mean Lance can just show up and expect to be handed the job. He's still got to compete to earn the faith of the coaches. I mean, Aiyuk was penciled in as a starter last year, but when he didn't give the effort the coaches expected, his role diminished. Which is to say, players always have to compete and prove they deserve their spot, but that's not the same thing as an open competition.
Competition is competition. To try and pretend there is some difference between an open competition and any other kind is just BS semantics. Obviously a veteran like Kittle or Trent Williams is always going to have an edge. I mean you would really have to beat them out to take their place because they've obviously earned it. Lance hasn't earned anything yet beyond his draft status. He still has a lot to prove on a team that got as far as the NFC Championship game. It's like the situation in Seattle when they drafted Wilson. They had just spent a boatload of money on that guy Flynn from Green Bay who went into camp as the presumptive starter. By the end of training camp Wilson had clearly shown he was the better player and got the nod. Why shouldn't Lance be held to the same standard? Like I said you want to give him the job, you don't want him to earn it. That being said I doubt it will even come to that. I suspect that the team will find a way to move Jimmy before his contract comes due. Still it remains a possibility and if Jimmy is in camp he should be allowed to compete.
It's not just semantics. In one scenario, you have Jimmy and Lance splitting reps with the 1s and in the other, you don't. There's no reason to do the former and it's not necessary to still have competition. Again, they've seen enough of Jimmy to know everything he is capable of. They don't need to see him take another snap in order to determine whether or not he gives us a better chance than Trey to win the Super Bowl this year.
[ Edited by 49ersRing on May 3, 2022 at 3:46 PM ]
& I do believe Verrett makes the team, either 53 or he begins on PUP or IR/to return after 3 games.
It was solid last year, overall.