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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Apr 22, 2022 at 4:17 PM ]
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Love you too.

But that's a different topic than Paraag running this ship no matter the GM here.

But yeah, I agree about Ballard thus far (and I really wanted us to at least get an interview with him). He turned us down.


Originally posted by NCommand:
He really has been ultra conservative. Agreed.


Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. So true.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

Maybe they wanted to avoid california taxes
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

Maybe they wanted to avoid california taxes

Lol possibly
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

Maybe they wanted to avoid california taxes

Lol possibly

Haha.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

And I don't mean just Paraag. But the Yorks too, the rumor mill full of leaders, etc. Paraag was just part of that s**t show image. And yes, that's speculation on my part too.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

And I don't mean just Paraag. But the Yorks too, the rumor mill full of leaders, etc. Paraag was just part of that s**t show image. And yes, that's speculation on my part too.

I agree with this. It was a toxic organization. I blame a lot of it on Jed and a lot on Baalke. You are not wrong here and I'm not even saying your speculation was wrong. Just saying Ballard had a history of denying requests
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

And I don't mean just Paraag. But the Yorks too, the rumor mill full of leakers, etc. Paraag was just part of that s**t show image. And yes, that's speculation on my part too.

I agree with this. It was a toxic organization. I blame a lot of it on Jed and a lot on Baalke. You are not wrong here and I'm not even saying your speculation was wrong. Just saying Ballard had a history of denying requests

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

And I don't mean just Paraag. But the Yorks too, the rumor mill full of leakers, etc. Paraag was just part of that s**t show image. And yes, that's speculation on my part too.

I agree with this. It was a toxic organization. I blame a lot of it on Jed and a lot on Baalke. You are not wrong here and I'm not even saying your speculation was wrong. Just saying Ballard had a history of denying requests


Agree with both of you, no one knows 100%, & yes in 17 we were a s**t show, Jed & Baalke to blame, I think Jed has become a good owner, not the best but there are worse out there.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Agree with both of you, no one knows 100%, & yes in 17 we were a s**t show, Jed & Baalke to blame, I think Jed has become a good owner, not the best but there are worse out there.

Snyder!
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag's system. There was a reason Chris Ballard didn't entertain here. Lynch was green. Baalke also came from the moneyball background so he fit in well at that time. The next GM will fall in line too.

Lynch is doing the very best he can within Paraag organization.

Because Chris Ballard is a free wheeling FA deal maker

No, like Lynch heard, Paraag ran the ship in SF and he wanted none of that business. Good move.
Interesting.

https://www.espn.co.uk/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/23134/new-colts-gm-chris-ballard-passed-on-49ers-to-stay-in-midwest

https://ninernoise.com/2017/01/07/chiefs-deny-49ers-interview-with-chris-ballard-for-gm-position/amp/

Yup, that's how my memory went.

New England Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and then-Kansas City Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard both opted not to interview with the 49ers.

Yeah I remember it as well. What I don't remember is him saying he heard and turned it down due to Paraag

Haha. Why else wouldn't two top candidates not even bother interviewing? It's not like we were the model organization at the time.

If you needed further proof inside circles, that was the first thing discussed by Lynch in the interview WITH Paraag. Was about his actual involvement and role within the organization. Lynch bought it.

I'd love to have a beer with Lynch after he's gone some day.

That's fine, but again this is speculation. Ballard and KC turned down a TON of interview requests for years, including that offseason.

And I don't mean just Paraag. But the Yorks too, the rumor mill full of leakers, etc. Paraag was just part of that s**t show image. And yes, that's speculation on my part too.

I agree with this. It was a toxic organization. I blame a lot of it on Jed and a lot on Baalke. You are not wrong here and I'm not even saying your speculation was wrong. Just saying Ballard had a history of denying requests


Agree with both of you, no one knows 100%, & yes in 17 we were a s**t show, Jed & Baalke to blame, I think Jed has become a good owner, not the best but there are worse out there.

We needed a big rebuild and were one of the worst options bc of the mistrust in the organization at the time. So much turnover in coaches and a depleted roster left everyone wondering if there would be enough time to right the ship. Hence the 6 year contracts for Kyle and John.
We were a s**t show with Jed and Baalke running the operation. Once Jed made the right decision and hired Shanahan who then hired Lynch, Jed has essentially stepped away and let them run it which was the turning point of the organization. Once Kyle got a decent QB the 49ers became instant playoff contenders and now they have a good roster with minimal turnover this year although it's going to depend how Lance plays.

Of course if we lose Deebo then that will be a huge hit. I don't blame anyone other than Deebo himself for this situation. The only thing we know for sure is he doesn't want to play in Cali. Money talks so we will see if he changes his mind.
Originally posted by miked1978:
We were a s**t show with Jed and Baalke running the operation. Once Jed made the right decision and hired Shanahan who then hired Lynch, Jed has essentially stepped away and let them run it which was the turning point of the organization. Once Kyle got a decent QB the 49ers became instant playoff contenders and now they have a good roster with minimal turnover this year although it's going to depend how Lance plays.

Of course if we lose Deebo then that will be a huge hit. I don't blame anyone other than Deebo himself for this situation. The only thing we know for sure is he doesn't want to play in Cali. Money talks so we will see if he changes his mind.

Harbaugh, Baalke, Paraag, the "leakers," Yorks. Absolute s**t storm of drama and ego.

Ultimately in the end, Paraag won and got promoted and hired Kyle and a green non-threat "GM" in Lynch.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 23, 2022 at 7:11 AM ]
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