John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Another piece of that is that it will be easier to sign a QB if you do have a competent WR on the roster.

I am taking a wait-and-see approach to Cousins. I understand he will come with a hefty price tag, however, it would likely cost less to sign someone like Marshall or Jeffrey if they knew a quality QB like Cousins was throwing the ball. At the end of the day, you would likely spend a lot less on the WR than you would if it were someone like Schaub or Hoyer throwing it up there. You might even be able to attract one of the better WRs if you don't have quality under center.

Good points!

They probably told him we're signing Kirk Cousins. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Another piece of that is that it will be easier to sign a QB if you do have a competent WR on the roster.

I am taking a wait-and-see approach to Cousins. I understand he will come with a hefty price tag, however, it would likely cost less to sign someone like Marshall or Jeffrey if they knew a quality QB like Cousins was throwing the ball. At the end of the day, you would likely spend a lot less on the WR than you would if it were someone like Schaub or Hoyer throwing it up there. You might even be able to attract one of the better WRs if you don't have quality under center.

Good points!

They probably told him we're signing Kirk Cousins. LOL

What did y'all think about the QBs throwing today?

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Another piece of that is that it will be easier to sign a QB if you do have a competent WR on the roster.

I am taking a wait-and-see approach to Cousins. I understand he will come with a hefty price tag, however, it would likely cost less to sign someone like Marshall or Jeffrey if they knew a quality QB like Cousins was throwing the ball. At the end of the day, you would likely spend a lot less on the WR than you would if it were someone like Schaub or Hoyer throwing it up there. You might even be able to attract one of the better WRs if you don't have quality under center.

Good points!

They probably told him we're signing Kirk Cousins. LOL

What did y'all think about the QBs throwing today?

If you are referring to the combine, I am not qualified to judge them based on combine. Tape, lots of tape is the answer. I will defer to MadDog and others on that.

I am a huge proponent of high quality position coaches. A good coach can turn a mediocre player into a good one and a good one into a great one. So while you have to have some good material to start, quality coaching is still the one indispensable ingredient.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Another piece of that is that it will be easier to sign a QB if you do have a competent WR on the roster.

I am taking a wait-and-see approach to Cousins. I understand he will come with a hefty price tag, however, it would likely cost less to sign someone like Marshall or Jeffrey if they knew a quality QB like Cousins was throwing the ball. At the end of the day, you would likely spend a lot less on the WR than you would if it were someone like Schaub or Hoyer throwing it up there. You might even be able to attract one of the better WRs if you don't have quality under center.

Good points!

They probably told him we're signing Kirk Cousins. LOL

What did y'all think about the QBs throwing today?

If you are referring to the combine, I am not qualified to judge them based on combine. Tape, lots of tape is the answer. I will defer to MadDog and others on that.

I am a huge proponent of high quality position coaches. A good coach can turn a mediocre player into a good one and a good one into a great one. So while you have to have some good material to start, quality coaching is still the one indispensable ingredient.

Oh for sure, but it means something. Get to see mechanics, accuracy, WRs they haven't worked with...pressured situations.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Another piece of that is that it will be easier to sign a QB if you do have a competent WR on the roster.

I am taking a wait-and-see approach to Cousins. I understand he will come with a hefty price tag, however, it would likely cost less to sign someone like Marshall or Jeffrey if they knew a quality QB like Cousins was throwing the ball. At the end of the day, you would likely spend a lot less on the WR than you would if it were someone like Schaub or Hoyer throwing it up there. You might even be able to attract one of the better WRs if you don't have quality under center.

Good points!

They probably told him we're signing Kirk Cousins. LOL

What did y'all think about the QBs throwing today?

If you are referring to the combine, I am not qualified to judge them based on combine. Tape, lots of tape is the answer. I will defer to MadDog and others on that.

I am a huge proponent of high quality position coaches. A good coach can turn a mediocre player into a good one and a good one into a great one. So while you have to have some good material to start, quality coaching is still the one indispensable ingredient.

I feel the same way dj.

As to what I saw, I saw a bunch of spread QB's who were solid throwing go routes and pro-style QB's who, naturally had better footwork, timing, anticipation on out routes. But all had accuracy issues. All have massive work ahead of them. I was blown away at how few threw with anticipation and waited until the receiver was at the spot...very little throwing open. I couldn't believe how inaccurate deep balls and out routes were. I mean, really off...odd arcs on throws, way late.

I'm not sure any helped themselves but I'm not sure if any hurt themselves either.

Trubisky and Peterman still look like the best fit for this offense but both will need to sit for a couple years at least. They need work...lots of it.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Somewhat joking. But he could have tested the market...particularly, with teams that not only have a QB on their roster, but good ones.

I think we signed him for cheaper than his market value (not by much). I believe a reason for him resigning with the Niners is because he has confidence in this new regime and he trusts them to bring a capable QB in.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Somewhat joking. But he could have tested the market...particularly, with teams that not only have a QB on their roster, but good ones.

Yeah but I don't think that he would have got the same contract anywhere else, at least not with contenders.
Let's not kid ourselves, this guy is a slot WR only and has got just one year of production.

Originally posted by dj43:
I was having a conversation about Lynch this afternoon. We were talking about all of the stuff he has been saying about numerous topics - basically being a GM right now - throwing up a lot of smokescreens that may or may not have any truth to them. One topic in particular was the obvious need for a QB. Lynch is saying he really likes the current group coming out - "Watson killed it," etc. We came to the conclusion he is trying to work Cleveland into believing they must draft a QB at #1 overall because if they don't, the 49ers will take one. The Jets and Bears may as well and when Cleveland comes up at #12 they will be picking through the leftovers. In the end, what Lynch really wants is Myles Garrett and is just playing the Browns.

Lynch seems to have learned how to play the media and the rest of the league like a veteran. He is doing a very good job keeping the competition from getting a read on what he really wants to do.

Well it's not rocket science and every team is doing it. Every player near them in the draft is f_____ awesome; why would you tip your hand or piss off players/agents?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Somewhat joking. But he could have tested the market...particularly, with teams that not only have a QB on their roster, but good ones.

How many teams cut him? Enough said. We overpaid.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Somewhat joking. But he could have tested the market...particularly, with teams that not only have a QB on their roster, but good ones.

How many teams cut him? Enough said. We overpaid.

Depends. What does his contract actually say?

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You know you're a badass GM when you can sign one of the best slot WR's in the game WITHOUT one single QB on the roster.

Somewhat joking. But he could have tested the market...particularly, with teams that not only have a QB on their roster, but good ones.

How many teams cut him? Enough said. We overpaid.

Depends. What does his contract actually say?

Joecool seriously?... If you want attention just got get drunk at a bar and see whose willing to listen to your bs. Not even mad,your act is wearing thin. Stop wasting time w/your negative agenda and if it's not attention of what you're seeking and you're trying to vent try running/working out or smoking Crabtrees.

You have to overpay these days especially when you have a bottom barrel roster. Kerley isn't great but he is solid and he'll hold the slot until we develop or sign a better player.

#freesus

Originally posted by Joecool:

How many teams cut him? Enough said. We overpaid.

How many produced more than he did last year (with 2 crappy QB's and a mid season QB change)?

Enough said...

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

You have to overpay these days especially when you have a bottom barrel roster. Kerley isn't great but he is solid and he'll hold the slot until we develop or sign a better player.

#freesus

You think we overpaid on this one?

YWR Jeremy Kerley - Stevie Johnson 3 years $10.5M ($3.5M) --- CONFIRMED

That was 2015. This is a very fair deal.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

You have to overpay these days especially when you have a bottom barrel roster. Kerley isn't great but he is solid and he'll hold the slot until we develop or sign a better player.

#freesus

You think we overpaid on this one?

YWR Jeremy Kerley - Stevie Johnson 3 years $10.5M ($3.5M) --- CONFIRMED

That was 2015. This is a very fair deal.

Well, there are those that do not let the reality of our situation influence the thinking that works on Madden. We are going to have to pay for whoever we want. This team has been dysfunctional at best for several years. We don't even have a QB signed yet. While we may have made improvements at HC, and GM, it isn't a proven recipe for success yet. While I don't think we overpaid, I don't think we got a deal either. When we get to where we are a premier destination, that is when free agents will consider more than just dollars. I think in this case we had a guy put his faith in the direction we are going, but also got his money. Good deal for both sides. But we will probably have to outbid others for the majority of any FA signings that have multiple offers.