John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
What is it going to take to call up Saleh and trade up with the Jets? Bosa and two firsts?

This is the Webzone. You need to add more!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Agree, and I'm reading some preliminary analysis on the Goff/Stafford trade, the Rams are *still* about 30+ million *over the cap* in 2021, even after the trade.

As if trading Goff made that worse! Lmfao Lombardi is a fool.

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'm reading some preliminary analysis on the Goff/Stafford trade, the Rams are *still* about 30+ million *over the cap* in 2021, even after the trade.

As if trading Goff made that worse! Lmfao Lombardi is a fool.

Well, point taken, but not only the rams but other teams are going to have to let go some good players to get under the 2021 cap. 49ers are primed to take advantage of the free agency period to sign some quality players that have to be let go by other teams. It's going to be a strong free agency market for all positions in need for the 49ers. By standing pat and not pursuing a trade - I think they have a solid leg up to push past their division rivals and dominate in 2021.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by 9moon:

I heard he just offerend two 2s and two 3s to the LIONS !!

LET'S GO STAFFFYYY !!!

I don't usually agree with 9moon, but thats what I also heard lol

Ditto

There is no way the 49ers would trade that much draft capital for a 33-year old QB. Not happening. Both Lynch and Shanny would get canned for a move like that.

Besides, Stafford ain't all that good to begin with. If he was that good, the Lions would have been in the playoffs year after year after year.

You're trippin. Stafford is a better QB than Matt Ryan and 33 is hardly old for a QB.

Stafford couldn't even win a playoff game with the number 1 defense, and Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate as his receivers. He is good, but really would be a small upgrade over Jimmy G.

Small upgrade?

Stafford can make throws that Jimmy can only dream of making. Man, we are in for a rude awakening this season. The Rams just took it up a notch, regardless of what they gave up. And many of y'all are failing to see that right now.

Stafford can make throws that Tom Brady and even Peyton Manning can only dream of making. Yet, arm talent is not the only factor in deciding how great a QB is.

Originally posted by awp8912:
I f**king hate this team sometimes. These cheap b*****ds couldn't offer 2 1sts and Jimmy for Stafford?? This literally also means they will in no way ever pay for Watson who will get an even bigger haul if traded.

f**k this FO and Shanahan. f**k jimmy garbage. Holy s**t! Literally have the worst QB in the division by a wide margin.

But hey keep working on that defense! That's what the tradition of the San Francisco 49ers has always been that vaunted defense!! We need more Dline men and Corners! That'll win us a Superbowl against Mahomes!!
JFC.

100% agree.

We are delusional if we think we can win the division next year with the worst QB of the west.

We can have a good defense and a good running game but this is a QB-driven league and if the other 3 teams have way better QB´s it means that we are in disadvantage since the beginning. 2019 was an anomaly with the Rams having their Super Bowl hangover, the Cardinals in year 1 of their rebuilding process and the Seahawks with some holes and even with those holes those same Seahawks almost won the division in the last game.

It´s like a 100-meter race and the other 3 teams are 30 meters ahead of us before the race begins.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
What is it going to take to call up Saleh and trade up with the Jets? Bosa and two firsts?

#12, 2022 1st round pick, 2022 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick this year and maybe a 4th this year too. That may do it, maybe throwing a player in there too will help keep some picks. I'd trade Jimmie Ward in a heart beat if that helped the trade.

Originally posted by awp8912:

I f**king hate this team sometimes. These cheap b*****ds couldn't offer 2 1sts and Jimmy for Stafford?? This literally also means they will in no way ever pay for Watson who will get an even bigger haul if traded.

f**k this FO and Shanahan. f**k jimmy garbage. Holy s**t! Literally have the worst QB in the division by a wide margin.

But hey keep working on that defense! That's what the tradition of the San Francisco 49ers has always been that vaunted defense!! We need more Dline men and Corners! That'll win us a Superbowl against Mahomes!!
JFC.

🤡🤡🤡

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by awp8912:
I f**king hate this team sometimes. These cheap b*****ds couldn't offer 2 1sts and Jimmy for Stafford?? This literally also means they will in no way ever pay for Watson who will get an even bigger haul if traded.

f**k this FO and Shanahan. f**k jimmy garbage. Holy s**t! Literally have the worst QB in the division by a wide margin.

But hey keep working on that defense! That's what the tradition of the San Francisco 49ers has always been that vaunted defense!! We need more Dline men and Corners! That'll win us a Superbowl against Mahomes!!
JFC.

🤡🤡🤡

lol damn, I was like ok we didn't get stafford time to move on... but this is another level of depression lol

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I heard he just offerend two 2s and two 3s to the LIONS !!

LET'S GO STAFFFYYY !!!

I don't usually agree with 9moon, but thats what I also heard lol

Ditto

There is no way the 49ers would trade that much draft capital for a 33-year old QB. Not happening. Both Lynch and Shanny would get canned for a move like that.

Besides, Stafford ain't all that good to begin with. If he was that good, the Lions would have been in the playoffs year after year after year.

You're trippin. Stafford is a better QB than Matt Ryan and 33 is hardly old for a QB.

Stafford couldn't even win a playoff game with the number 1 defense, and Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate as his receivers. He is good, but really would be a small upgrade over Jimmy G.

Small upgrade?

Stafford can make throws that Jimmy can only dream of making. Man, we are in for a rude awakening this season. The Rams just took it up a notch, regardless of what they gave up. And many of y'all are failing to see that right now.

People said the same thing when they sent 2 1sts for Ramsey. Said the same thing about the Bears when they sent 2 1sts for Mack. Said the same thing about the Hawks when they sent 2 1sts for Adams. Yet, all those teams are gonna watch the SB the same way you or I will.

LA is in a bad place salary cap wise even with dumping Goff and don't have a 1sr round pick for another 3 years, haven't had a 1st round pick in 5 and have very little developmental talent because of their lack of picks.

We have to assume the only thing standing in their way of a SB is Goff. This trade was more about maneuvering under the cap in a very down year to free up desperately needed space than massively upgrading the team. If they kept Goff, they would have their least talented team in 5 years.

Agree, and I'm reading some preliminary analysis on the Goff/Stafford trade, the Rams are *still* about 30+ million *over the cap* in 2021, even after the trade.

They'll extend and/or restructure Stafford to bring that way down. But they still need to make other strategic moves to field a team.

Here are some possible Ram cap casualties (I think this is true even after the Stafford trade)
ILB Kenny Young. .RT Rob Havenstein. .C Brian Allen. Jeremy Brevard .ILB Micah Kiser. ...OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. ...NT A'Shawn Robinson. ..

What intrigues me are the OLine players that might be available to be signed by ShanaLynch if Rams let them go. These guys already know the zone blocking scheme on top of hopefully being good quality players.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Here are some possible Ram cap casualties (I think this is true even after the Stafford trade)
ILB Kenny Young. .RT Rob Havenstein. .C Brian Allen. Jeremy Brevard .ILB Micah Kiser. ...OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. ...NT A'Shawn Robinson. ..

What intrigues me are the OLine players that might be available to be signed by ShanaLynch if Rams let them go. These guys already know the zone blocking scheme on top of hopefully being good quality players.

I appreciate that you acknowledge that the Rams actually improved their cap situation

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Here are some possible Ram cap casualties (I think this is true even after the Stafford trade)
ILB Kenny Young. .RT Rob Havenstein. .C Brian Allen. Jeremy Brevard .ILB Micah Kiser. ...OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. ...NT A'Shawn Robinson. ..

What intrigues me are the OLine players that might be available to be signed by ShanaLynch if Rams let them go. These guys already know the zone blocking scheme on top of hopefully being good quality players.

I appreciate that you acknowledge that the Rams actually improved their cap situation

Improved? They lost $7.25M in cap room with this deal. Cap casualties are just that cap casualties, cause they're over the cap, and need cap room, they're not in good cap shape, the 49ers are much better off, with this deal, the Rams would be $39.5M over the cap if the cap is $175M, we'd be $13.971M UNDER a $175M cap right now.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Here are some possible Ram cap casualties (I think this is true even after the Stafford trade)
ILB Kenny Young. .RT Rob Havenstein. .C Brian Allen. Jeremy Brevard .ILB Micah Kiser. ...OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. ...NT A'Shawn Robinson. ..

What intrigues me are the OLine players that might be available to be signed by ShanaLynch if Rams let them go. These guys already know the zone blocking scheme on top of hopefully being good quality players.

I appreciate that you acknowledge that the Rams actually improved their cap situation

Improved? They lost $7.25M in cap room with this deal. Cap casualties are just that cap casualties, cause they're over the cap, and need cap room, they're not in good cap shape, the 49ers are much better off, with this deal, the Rams would be $39.5M over the cap if the cap is $175M, we'd be $13.971M UNDER a $175M cap right now.

Agree, and I'll just add with their cap in bad shape, they can't really go into the free agent market. With their draft capital depleted, they can't really horsetrade for good players, and on top of that, they don't have a first round pick until 2024. Now first round picks may be overrated, but I'd rather have Sean McVay *without* a first round draft pick for 4 years vs him having all of his first round picks during that time.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Here are some possible Ram cap casualties (I think this is true even after the Stafford trade)
ILB Kenny Young. .RT Rob Havenstein. .C Brian Allen. Jeremy Brevard .ILB Micah Kiser. ...OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. ...NT A'Shawn Robinson. ..

What intrigues me are the OLine players that might be available to be signed by ShanaLynch if Rams let them go. These guys already know the zone blocking scheme on top of hopefully being good quality players.

I appreciate that you acknowledge that the Rams actually improved their cap situation

Improved? They lost $7.25M in cap room with this deal. Cap casualties are just that cap casualties, cause they're over the cap, and need cap room, they're not in good cap shape, the 49ers are much better off, with this deal, the Rams would be $39.5M over the cap if the cap is $175M, we'd be $13.971M UNDER a $175M cap right now.

Agree, and I'll just add with their cap in bad shape, they can't really go into the free agent market. With their draft capital depleted, they can't really horsetrade for good players, and on top of that, they don't have a first round pick until 2024. Now first round picks may be overrated, but I'd rather have Sean McVay *without* a first round draft pick for 4 years vs him having all of his first round picks during that time.

Agreed 100% on everything, glad McVay has no 1st's until 2024, they've done some really questionable deals, a 1st for Cooks, overpaid for Gurley, overpaid in a trade for Goff, gave up a lot for Ramsey, who's a major d******d, probably the best move they've made. Giving up 2 1sts and a 3rd for Stafford, a 33yr old QB, is way way too much IMO. Now the price tag for Watson will be crazy, at least 3 1's, 2 day 2 picks, likely a star or a 4th 1st, too rich, can't afford to mortgage the future on one player, when we need those picks, and Lynch has been nailing on his early rd picks since his 1st draft, yes McGlinchey isn't great, and Pettis was a bust, but besides them, Moore will start at SS, Warner is the best LB right with Leonard, Deebo & Aiyuk are a lethal combo, Kinlaw looks like he could end up being close to what DeFo was/is. Plus the fact we need cap room to keep players in the future, Bosa, who I didn't even mention, will demand $30M+ a yr, Dre & Deebo will be up soon, need to extend Warner, hopefully they can at least retain Trent & Juice, if they do that, I'm happy with the offseason, I trust John & Kyle to draft well, Kyle has learned from his mistakes on draft crushes(Joe Williams, Dante Pettis), John has learned from red flags(Foster mainly). The future is bright, even wit Jimmy at QB, I'm good with him.

I wish there was a way we could fire Lynch and Shanahan without actually getting rid of them, because I doubt we'd come close to getting anyone better, but this is just unbelievably frustrating.

When this FO is content to trot out a combination of Jimmy, Beathard, Mullens, and Rosen again next season and Jimmy inevitably goes down after a few weeks of mediocre up and down play, it will be infuriating. And these a*****es will have the nerve to pretend again like our injury problems are just bad luck and not the product of their insistence on gambling on the most injury prone players in existence.