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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners418:
How the hell do you think any of the local or national reporters get their info? Through leaks. Of course the niners have been a bit excessive but it's just ridiculous when people act like this doesn't happen everywhere.

Isn't that what I just said? People are acting like the leaks have stopped with Baalke out. As if he was the culprit. Just not true.

With any leak, always ask, who's going to benefit the most from it. That's probably the source.

How do you know? That's my only question. No one can say this 100%. And again are we calling all reports leaks, including rumors because that's certainly not what I'm saying.

Speculation based on previous association is not a leak IMHO. For example, because Shanny worked with x person for 5 months in his past, he could bring x person over. This isn't a leak, this is a reporter connecting the dots with speculation so he can get a click-through.

Chip Kelly has been fired and he doesn't know it yet is a "leak" to me.

There are more rumors reported vs leaks. I call a leak, something that gets out in advance of the actual action happening. (lLike we have confirmed Baalke was fired last week but Chip Kelly doesn't know).

A feint within a feint. There are times when seeing who would benefit from an action is also possibly intended to throw uncalled for attention onto someone or something that never asked for it.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).


Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Lol. Talks about others pettiness then proceeds to block another person
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

LMAO. Perfect!
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).


Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Lol. Talks about others pettiness then proceeds to block another person

A reasonable person can't be expected to tolerate so much b******t forever.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.
I agree with the bolded, but I have no reason to believe the underlined, yet. Lynch knows what a "Championship Culture" feels like after experiencing it as a player. That gives him a leg up on those pure front office candidates that were never a part of a winning locker room.
Jed was right when he identified that a change in culture was needed. That's a high level change that hitting on BPA in the draft still won't solve. The stories about how some players didn't know the playbook and no one held them accountable was scary to read. That is the first thing Lynch has to change and I think his player locker room experience helps him there.

The fact that Lynch is honest, direct and transparent will help. If Shanahan is the same that will help more. Lynch is a hard working smart guy, so the key will be his ability to use the expertise of others. It's a huge unknown but it already seems a better plan that Baalke, Gamble and Kelly. I didn't dislike those guys but it was a cobbled together threesome done out of desperation as opposed to thoughtful rebuilding.

As of now, the niners have Lynch, Peters and Shanahan as a start. As they add talent to the front office Lynch will have more and more voices to sort through in making decisions. Will he succeed? So far I've heard no negative opinions about the guy...arrow up. I really like the addition of Peters as he's seen how NE and Denver have built their championship teams and was a part of that success.

One area they need to address is diversity.

So here's a thought. If the idea of hiring Lynch is really forming into a President of Football Operations role, and with original rumors of pursuing Dominik...why not still hire Paton as GM? Or Dominik? Or McDonough...he certainly seems like he'd be down for that (reporting to Lynch/working with Kyle).
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).


Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Lol. Talks about others pettiness then proceeds to block another person

A reasonable person can't be expected to tolerate so much b******t forever.
Guys. Let's chill. Let's settle down. That's what I wanna do.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
How do you know? That's my only question. No one can say this 100%. And again are we calling all reports leaks, including rumors because that's certainly not what I'm saying.

Speculation based on previous association is not a leak IMHO. For example, because Shanny worked with x person for 5 months in his past, he could bring x person over. This isn't a leak, this is a reporter connecting the dots with speculation so he can get a click-through.

Chip Kelly has been fired and he doesn't know it yet is a "leak" to me.

There are more rumors reported vs leaks. I call a leak, something that gets out in advance of the actual action happening. (lLike we have confirmed Baalke was fired last week but Chip Kelly doesn't know).

Gotcha...your definition of a leak is probably more accurate. I see where you're coming from!
Nice interview of Jeremy Kerley on NFLN. He certainly wants to be back.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice interview of Jeremy Kerley on NFLN. He certainly wants to be back.

I'd love to have him back, one of the few bright spots from last year. Good value as a solid slot WR and return man. We'll see how the new coaching staff and FO evaluates his fit going forward.

Kerley and maybe Hodges are the only two UFAs I'm interested in bringing back. Everyone else should walk.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice interview of Jeremy Kerley on NFLN. He certainly wants to be back.

I'd love to have him back, one of the few bright spots from last year. Good value as a solid slot WR and return man. We'll see how the new coaching staff and FO evaluates his fit going forward.

Kerley and maybe Hodges are the only two UFAs I'm interested in bringing back. Everyone else should walk.

Dorsey?
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice interview of Jeremy Kerley on NFLN. He certainly wants to be back.

I'd love to have him back, one of the few bright spots from last year. Good value as a solid slot WR and return man. We'll see how the new coaching staff and FO evaluates his fit going forward.

Kerley and maybe Hodges are the only two UFAs I'm interested in bringing back. Everyone else should walk.
Tiller and Belore (ST only)

i would keep
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Dorsey?

I'm not sure about Dorsey. He's been injury prone and getting older. Performance has been up and down, he's definitely better at NT in a 3-4. We should look to upgrade imo.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).


Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Lol. Talks about others pettiness then proceeds to block another person

A reasonable person can't be expected to tolerate so much b******t forever.

I've been unblocked !
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Tiller and Belore (ST only)

i would keep

Tiller is a RFA, I'm assuming we'll tender him and bring him back. Bellore is a nice ST player.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Dorsey?

I'm not sure about Dorsey. He's been injury prone and getting older. Performance has been up and down, he's definitely better at NT in a 3-4. We should look to upgrade imo.

we agree on so much
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