John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Originally posted by genus49:
What's Willis doing these days?

In court trying to get his money back.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN
Sources: #49ers will not keep director of human performance Mark Uyeyama on presumptive coach Kyle Shanahan's staff.

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Obviously they have somebody lined up.

Yeah just one look at our IR list, and this is a no brainer.

Not to defend Uyeyama but our total injured list ranked #23 (low) in the league, according to mangameslost.com. Losing Bowman was the 4th most significant injury in the league (AP, Watt and Cutler higher impact on their team). We sucked because our starters sucked and the backups sucked. It wasn't that we had a high injury rate. We didn't. We were in the bottom 1/3.

By comparison, Atlanta ranked #25 and New England ranked #27 in terms of number of games lost due to injury. IOW, our injury rate was roughly the same as the two teams in the Super Bowl.

Our depth SUCKS

Yup...very few impact players to rank high on the impact list.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

Originally posted by thl408:
Got it. He is saying the right things and is humble about what he doesn't know. I was listening to the NN podcast (reaction to Lynch hiring) and they brought up a good point imo. How does Lynch know if the advice he is getting is bad/good advice if he has such little experience in front office issues?

If one of his right hand men say, "you should do this, but not that". He has no prior experience to decide if the advice is worth applying. I'm excited about the hire, but I'm not all in because there is so much unknown. And I'm not implying that getting someone with front office experience would have increased the chances of success, I'm implying that because there is no history/experience, there is a lot to be unsure about. My excitement and skepticism about Lynch blurs together.

This is where instinct kicks in. Lynch has shown great instinct in all avenues he's pursued. Some people can just read people and/or the room, and then are able to make the right calls even if they don't have the experience.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by genus49:
What's Willis doing these days?

In court trying to get his money back.

should be getting it back on the field

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by thl408:
Got it. He is saying the right things and is humble about what he doesn't know. I was listening to the NN podcast (reaction to Lynch hiring) and they brought up a good point imo. How does Lynch know if the advice he is getting is bad/good advice if he has such little experience in front office issues?

If one of his right hand men say, "you should do this, but not that". He has no prior experience to decide if the advice is worth applying. I'm excited about the hire, but I'm not all in because there is so much unknown. And I'm not implying that getting someone with front office experience would have increased the chances of success, I'm implying that because there is no history/experience, there is a lot to be unsure about. My excitement and skepticism about Lynch blurs together.

This is where instinct kicks in. Lynch has shown great instinct in all avenues he's pursued. Some people can just read people and/or the room, and then are able to make the right calls even if they don't have the experience.

hoping for a lot of football common sense

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
should be getting it back on the field

At this point I'd be good with him helping with something like strength & conditioning just to get back on the team in some capacity.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Anyone who still needs convincing, go listen to the 20 minute Murph & Mac KNBR interview with Lynch. Youll be all in after hearing that.

He has some great, Bay Area centric stories. He was drafted in the 2nd round (66th overall) of the expansion Florida Marlins in the 1992 MLB draft. The 2nd ever draft pick in Marlins history. He was a mediocre QB at Stanford, so he had fully committed to playing baseball after he was drafted.

Bill Walsh took over as Stanford football coach, and called Lynch in to talk before he made any final decisions. He told Lynch "I think you should stay here and play football. I want to convert you to S, and I believe you have the abilities to become a Hall of Fame level NFL S." So he stayed with football.

Durinf his brief stint in the Marlins minor league system, he was roommates with a 17 year old Edgar Renteria, and was asked to look out for him.

Fun fact, for 49ers GM Scot McCloughan was also drafted in the 1992 MLB draft by the Toronto Blue Jays. Weird coincidence.

Cool stories, but I see no relevance how all that translates to him being the GM to rebuild the franchise. I'm not going all in because he has cool stories. Everyone has cool stories.

I never said the stories were the thing that would convince you.

Go listen to the interview.

Okay you said, "Youll be all in after hearing that." Then went on about all those stories. I've heard that interview. He knows what he doesn't know and will surround himself with the people he knows. That's swell. Tell me what part of that interview should get me to, "be all in after hearing that". Save your eye roll emoticon.

I wasn't going to explain the entire interview in a post. I just brought up the stories as an interesting side note.

Everything Lynch said told me he gets it. He understands what he doesn't know, and his limitations, and is building a staff to strengthen those things. He's essentially going to be in charge of football operations, and delegate. Adam Peters was a fantastic hire, and shows he knows what to look for.

I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by thl408:
Got it. He is saying the right things and is humble about what he doesn't know. I was listening to the NN podcast (reaction to Lynch hiring) and they brought up a good point imo. How does Lynch know if the advice he is getting is bad/good advice if he has such little experience in front office issues?

If one of his right hand men say, "you should do this, but not that". He has no prior experience to decide if the advice is worth applying. I'm excited about the hire, but I'm not all in because there is so much unknown. And I'm not implying that getting someone with front office experience would have increased the chances of success, I'm implying that because there is no history/experience, there is a lot to be unsure about. My excitement and skepticism about Lynch blurs together.

This is where instinct kicks in. Lynch has shown great instinct in all avenues he's pursued. Some people can just read people and/or the room, and then are able to make the right calls even if they don't have the experience.

hoping for a lot of football common sense

Exactly. This is what it means to have a "football guy" at the top. Something many of the Lynch naysayers claimed they wanted. The experience of GM day-to-day actions may be lacking at first, but the "football common sense" experience is vast.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Anyone who still needs convincing, go listen to the 20 minute Murph & Mac KNBR interview with Lynch. Youll be all in after hearing that.

He has some great, Bay Area centric stories. He was drafted in the 2nd round (66th overall) of the expansion Florida Marlins in the 1992 MLB draft. The 2nd ever draft pick in Marlins history. He was a mediocre QB at Stanford, so he had fully committed to playing baseball after he was drafted.

Bill Walsh took over as Stanford football coach, and called Lynch in to talk before he made any final decisions. He told Lynch "I think you should stay here and play football. I want to convert you to S, and I believe you have the abilities to become a Hall of Fame level NFL S." So he stayed with football.

Durinf his brief stint in the Marlins minor league system, he was roommates with a 17 year old Edgar Renteria, and was asked to look out for him.

Fun fact, for 49ers GM Scot McCloughan was also drafted in the 1992 MLB draft by the Toronto Blue Jays. Weird coincidence.

Cool stories, but I see no relevance how all that translates to him being the GM to rebuild the franchise. I'm not going all in because he has cool stories. Everyone has cool stories.

I never said the stories were the thing that would convince you.

Go listen to the interview.

Okay you said, "Youll be all in after hearing that." Then went on about all those stories. I've heard that interview. He knows what he doesn't know and will surround himself with the people he knows. That's swell. Tell me what part of that interview should get me to, "be all in after hearing that". Save your eye roll emoticon.

I wasn't going to explain the entire interview in a post. I just brought up the stories as an interesting side note.

Everything Lynch said told me he gets it. He understands what he doesn't know, and his limitations, and is building a staff to strengthen those things. He's essentially going to be in charge of football operations, and delegate. Adam Peters was a fantastic hire, and shows he knows what to look for.

Got it. He is saying the right things and is humble about what he doesn't know. I was listening to the NN podcast (reaction to Lynch hiring) and they brought up a good point imo. How does Lynch know if the advice he is getting is bad/good advice if he has such little experience in front office issues?

If one of his right hand men say, "you should do this, but not that". He has no prior experience to decide if the advice is worth applying. I'm excited about the hire, but I'm not all in because there is so much unknown. And I'm not implying that getting someone with front office experience would have increased the chances of success, I'm implying that because there is no history/experience, there is a lot to be unsure about. My excitement and skepticism about Lynch blurs together.

I believe that what Lynch said about relying on your history of making good judgement applies in that case. In the past he has made judgements that have turned out to be good ones, hence, he will continue to do that.

In my experience, there are many decisions that are made "at the top" that are little more than just common sense. Whether you have 1,000 people under you or just 10, common sense is generally what rules the day.

Lynch will need help in crunching numbers and he has PM to help with that, but that is not a negative. Most other teams have analytics staff that do the same thing.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Dude's just speaking the truth. Not being able to listen to someone who likes to give detailed nuanced answers and then come away with an understanding that is more of a shade of gray rather than a simple black/white paradigm says a lot about the comprehension and aptitude of the listener.

If you take that as an insult, then you might need to fill out one of these:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
How did Steve Young feel about the Tomsula hiring? I want to know if his praise and optimism is legitimate or if he's just gushing us as a fan/former player.

Young has never been a homer. Hes a critic. I don't remember anyone, including him being high on the Tomsula hire.

I remember Steve Mariucci liked it...

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

the person saying "follow the rules" should take his own advice and stick to the subject, instead of derailing it with concussion speak