John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.

Excellent post.

Originally posted by genus49:

At this point I'd be good with him helping with something like strength & conditioning just to get back on the team in some capacity.

Lol just because he's big doesn't mean he knows what he's doing to get the best performance out of players, especially with no knowledge in exercise physiology. Let's put him near the medical staff cuz he's an ex niner

replace tom rathman with mike alstott

Originally posted by RonMexico:
replace tom rathman with mike alstott

lol

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.

I agree with the bolded, but I have no reason to believe the underlined, yet. Lynch knows what a "Championship Culture" feels like after experiencing it as a player. That gives him a leg up on those pure front office candidates that were never a part of a winning locker room.
Jed was right when he identified that a change in culture was needed. That's a high level change that hitting on BPA in the draft still won't solve. The stories about how some players didn't know the playbook and no one held them accountable was scary to read. That is the first thing Lynch has to change and I think his player locker room experience helps him there.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
replace tom rathman with mike alstott

ron said nothing wrong

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:

love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

Originally posted by NM16:
Lol just because he's big doesn't mean he knows what he's doing to get the best performance out of players, especially with no knowledge in exercise physiology. Let's put him near the medical staff cuz he's an ex niner

I'm quite certain he's familiar with strength and conditioning. Nobody is talking about him giving massages.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Anyone who still needs convincing, go listen to the 20 minute Murph & Mac KNBR interview with Lynch. Youll be all in after hearing that.

He has some great, Bay Area centric stories. He was drafted in the 2nd round (66th overall) of the expansion Florida Marlins in the 1992 MLB draft. The 2nd ever draft pick in Marlins history. He was a mediocre QB at Stanford, so he had fully committed to playing baseball after he was drafted.

Bill Walsh took over as Stanford football coach, and called Lynch in to talk before he made any final decisions. He told Lynch "I think you should stay here and play football. I want to convert you to S, and I believe you have the abilities to become a Hall of Fame level NFL S." So he stayed with football.

Durinf his brief stint in the Marlins minor league system, he was roommates with a 17 year old Edgar Renteria, and was asked to look out for him.

Fun fact, for 49ers GM Scot McCloughan was also drafted in the 1992 MLB draft by the Toronto Blue Jays. Weird coincidence.

Cool stories, but I see no relevance how all that translates to him being the GM to rebuild the franchise. I'm not going all in because he has cool stories. Everyone has cool stories.

I never said the stories were the thing that would convince you.

Go listen to the interview.

Okay you said, "Youll be all in after hearing that." Then went on about all those stories. I've heard that interview. He knows what he doesn't know and will surround himself with the people he knows. That's swell. Tell me what part of that interview should get me to, "be all in after hearing that". Save your eye roll emoticon.

I wasn't going to explain the entire interview in a post. I just brought up the stories as an interesting side note.

Everything Lynch said told me he gets it. He understands what he doesn't know, and his limitations, and is building a staff to strengthen those things. He's essentially going to be in charge of football operations, and delegate. Adam Peters was a fantastic hire, and shows he knows what to look for.

Got it. He is saying the right things and is humble about what he doesn't know. I was listening to the NN podcast (reaction to Lynch hiring) and they brought up a good point imo. How does Lynch know if the advice he is getting is bad/good advice if he has such little experience in front office issues?

If one of his right hand men say, "you should do this, but not that". He has no prior experience to decide if the advice is worth applying. I'm excited about the hire, but I'm not all in because there is so much unknown. And I'm not implying that getting someone with front office experience would have increased the chances of success, I'm implying that because there is no history/experience, there is a lot to be unsure about. My excitement and skepticism about Lynch blurs together.

Are you talking about the Better Rivals podcast? They recorded that pretty quickly after the announcement, so they were pretty fresh off the initial wave of anger and disappointment from a shocking hire. I feel like they might have a different opinion after some time to get used to the idea.

Obviously his lack of experience is a little unsettling, but theres no way to tell if Paton or McDonough would've been good GM's either. Baalke has 18 years experience as a FO exec, and he's a terrible GM.

I think the 49ers were looking for a guy with natural instincts and communication abilities. Lynch seems to have some intangibles that they feel will make a difference. Stuff Baalke lacked. Having an expert scout running the show led to a FO where Baalke trusted his own eye, and nothing else. He dug in on his own stubborn opinions, and strong armed anyone who questioned him. There was no communication
between himself and the coaches/players. Total disconnect, because he didn't care for their opinion. But obviously the players and coaches have a valuable opinion about the team, because they ARE the team.

Lynch knows that dynamic more than anything. He knows what a winning locker room looks like, and what healthy communication does.

Originally posted by RonMexico:

replace tom rathman with mike alstott

Silence your blasphemous tongue!

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.

I agree with the bolded, but I have no reason to believe the underlined, yet. Lynch knows what a "Championship Culture" feels like after experiencing it as a player. That gives him a leg up on those pure front office candidates that were never a part of a winning locker room.
Jed was right when he identified that a change in culture was needed. That's a high level change that hitting on BPA in the draft still won't solve. The stories about how some players didn't know the playbook and no one held them accountable was scary to read. That is the first thing Lynch has to change and I think his player locker room experience helps him there.

The fact that Lynch is honest, direct and transparent will help. If Shanahan is the same that will help more. Lynch is a hard working smart guy, so the key will be his ability to use the expertise of others. It's a huge unknown but it already seems a better plan that Baalke, Gamble and Kelly. I didn't dislike those guys but it was a cobbled together threesome done out of desperation as opposed to thoughtful rebuilding.

As of now, the niners have Lynch, Peters and Shanahan as a start. As they add talent to the front office Lynch will have more and more voices to sort through in making decisions. Will he succeed? So far I've heard no negative opinions about the guy...arrow up. I really like the addition of Peters as he's seen how NE and Denver have built their championship teams and was a part of that success.

One area they need to address is diversity.

Originally posted by RonMexico:

replace tom rathman with mike alstott

lolz, just hire the entire 2002 Bucs roster as our coaching staff. Warren Sapp DL coach, Derrick Brooks LB coach, Ronde Barber DB coach, etc.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:
love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by susweel:

love steve young but I think them concussions took a toll on him dude just keeps rambling on and on about stupid s**t.

Lol. I think he went for like 8 minutes straight without Tolbert or Lund saying a word.

i listen to knbr podcast sometimes and his always like 30 minutes plus lol

That latest KNBR Young interview was gold. Incredibly insightful and a great listen. When someone just shrugs it all off and says "derp... too long... concussions" it says more about the listener than it does Young.

(He hasn't had any concussion symptoms since a few weeks after the Week 4 1999 hit, BTW).

Wow more personal attacks on webzone members instead of sticking to the subject matter.

LOL - I said "someone" and I didn't even say specifically what it says about such a hypothetical someone, but just stated a contrast.

Or, to use your famous line, "I attacked the idea, not the person".

Yeesh.

Well i made the comments so obviously it was intended towards me. Don't be afraid, say what you feel.

I said exactly what I wanted to say to your comment.

As for you wanting to bait me into some larger, stupid argument, I'll say exactly what I feel there, too: You're acting with pettiness, and it's rather pathetic. And you're going back on my block list.

(Note I'm calling your actions petty and pathetic ).

Lol oh noes I'm on your blocked list, how will i go on.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

I think the key thing to take away from his interview is that the success of an organization has to do with the quality of the people that are a part of it, and everything about Lynch, from the way he treats other people, to the thoughtful answers he gives to the questions that are asked of him, to the way that he took York head-on and addressed all of the concerns around the current state of the 49ers shows me that this guy gets it. He not only has the work-ethic and overall football acumen, but he has the self-awareness and leadership skills needed to lead a successful organization. I think hiring a Paton or a McDonough would actually have been a less inspiring hire. Those guys might have some skills, but Lynch is a big picture guy with the abilities to build something special. Lynch knows the kind of people he wants to build this organization around, the kind of players he wants to acquire, and not just at some Trent Baalke "I like guys with long arms and big hands" level. I think Lynch has the ability to detect winning intangibles in other people, and that single skill alone means that regardless of what happens, I think we are in for an upward trajectory now.

I agree with the bolded, but I have no reason to believe the underlined, yet. Lynch knows what a "Championship Culture" feels like after experiencing it as a player. That gives him a leg up on those pure front office candidates that were never a part of a winning locker room.
Jed was right when he identified that a change in culture was needed. That's a high level change that hitting on BPA in the draft still won't solve. The stories about how some players didn't know the playbook and no one held them accountable was scary to read. That is the first thing Lynch has to change and I think his player locker room experience helps him there.

The fact that Lynch is honest, direct and transparent will help. If Shanahan is the same that will help more. Lynch is a hard working smart guy, so the key will be his ability to use the expertise of others. It's a huge unknown but it already seems a better plan that Baalke, Gamble and Kelly. I didn't dislike those guys but it was a cobbled together threesome done out of desperation as opposed to thoughtful rebuilding.

As of now, the niners have Lynch, Peters and Shanahan as a start. As they add talent to the front office Lynch will have more and more voices to sort through in making decisions. Will he succeed? So far I've heard no negative opinions about the guy...arrow up. I really like the addition of Peters as he's seen how NE and Denver have built their championship teams and was a part of that success.

One area they need to address is diversity.

Lol