John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by pd24:

Ok.... that is like taking the best players off the playoff teams and Superbowl teams the last couple of years and saying the coaches suck. Lol.

Harbaugh has had good teams at every stop he has made.
Try again

So you're saying he cherry picks his teams?

For all we know he'll come back in the NFL and correct all the stubbornness which held him back from being an amazing coach which will really piss me off. But whatever happened with us was a problem.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by pd24:

Ok.... that is like taking the best players off the playoff teams and Superbowl teams the last couple of years and saying the coaches suck. Lol.

Harbaugh has had good teams at every stop he has made.
Try again

So you're saying he cherry picks his teams?

For all we know he'll come back in the NFL and correct all the stubbornness which held him back from being an amazing coach which will really piss me off. But whatever happened with us was a problem.

No, he came to a s**t team and went to the NFC championship game in year 1.

He can come to a s**t team like the Browns and would be successful on a few years.

Lot of positivity in this thread. Is it because our expectations of a gm are so low or is it genuine excitement?

Originally posted by pd24:
Ok.... that is like taking the best players off the playoff teams and Superbowl teams the last couple of years and saying the coaches suck. Lol.

Harbaugh has had good teams at every stop he has made.
Try again

And what exactly has he won? National championship? World champion?

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by pd24:

Ok.... that is like taking the best players off the playoff teams and Superbowl teams the last couple of years and saying the coaches suck. Lol.

Harbaugh has had good teams at every stop he has made.
Try again

And what exactly has he won? National championship? World champion?

Nothing. And yet, he was still the most successful coach here in the last 20 plus years

Steve Young is my favorite all time 49er. I love listening to him talk football, and he's really excited about what the 49ers are doing and screw it I am to. We gotta give these guys 3 years, minimum. I can see what they are trying to do. Im in, lets get back to being a gem in the NFL's crown. Lynch is going to turn this s**t around.

Originally posted by pd24:
No, he came to a s**t team and went to the NFC championship game in year 1.

He can come to a s**t team like the Browns and would be successful on a few years.

No he came to a team that was projected to win the NFC West the year before and because of bad coaching fell apart.

Originally posted by genus49:

Seriously? When the other team knew our plays better than our own guys i'd say the league caught up to us.

The man was brought in to improve the offense and be a QB whisperer and the offense and QB got worse with time.

I don't want to take over this thread with this stuff I just find the idea that Harbaugh was irreplaceable to be a fairy tale.

I think the question would Harbaugh let us run with the youngest teams like Tomsula and Kelly did? That's not JH's style. One of the mistakes we made after Harbaugh was assume Baalke's trash picks were good.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

That is up to Lynch and Shanahan to get right immediately. That is why they were hired.

immediately is a tough word. They have to look at big picture and look ahead a bit.

I think we all know we won't be very good next year. So we'll likely be picking high once again.

Next year's QB class looks very impressive. If we draft QB in the first round this year it's highly unlikely we'd draft a QB high next year.

They'll have to really make sure if they use that #2 pick for QB that he's the right guy.

Next year we're potentially looking at these guys being in the draft

Josh Rosen
Sam Darnold
Luke Falk
Jake Browning
Mason Rudolph
Josh Allen
Wilton Speight
Lamar Jackson

Some of those guys have some serious potential for some great things. If we bypass QB in the first this year it's very possible we'll have a chance at a couple of those guys next year as you figure more teams fill their QB needs this year.

Looking ahead drafting QB in the first this year could be a mistake only because it will have us miss out on one of those guys so if there are any doubts on the guys available at #2 then we better hold off...and I hope we do even though I think Trubisky or Watson could be very good players.

Though of course we could go QB at #2 and still decide to draft one of those guys next year if they don't see enough out of the rookie but it sucks seeing that potential QB class NEXT year....we just had to win that Rams game damnit.

Myles Garrett would've been perfect along with one of those guys next year and someone like Mahomes or Peterson this year to groom.

I've always believed that if you think a guy can be a franchise QB you should take him, even if there is a guy like Garrett on the board. For example if you think Trubisky has a 60% chance of being a top 10 QB and Myles Garrett is on the board and you feel he has a 90% to be a all pro, you still should take the QB. A top teir QB is just too important in this league.

In the 2008 draft the Dolphins took Jake Long #1 overall, the Rams took Chris Long #2, and the Falcons took Matt Ryan #3. Sure both Long's might of been rated higher than Matt Ryan and Jake Long was an all pro LT, but if you do that draft again I guarantee Matt Ryan goes #1. Thats why I don't understand why some people have made statements like "if the niners draft one of the QB's with Garrett still on the board then Lynch should be fired on the spot."

Lastly, like you said, the way the rookie contracts are now you aren't forced to only take 1 QB in the first round for 5 years. The Panthers used their 2nd rd pick on Jimmy Claussen and then the next year used their 1st overall pick on Cam Newton

Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing. And yet, he was still the most successful coach here in the last 20 plus years

So nothing, and was. All pasted tense. Great let me know when he wins a Superbowl for the niners!

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

No, he came to a s**t team and went to the NFC championship game in year 1.

He can come to a s**t team like the Browns and would be successful on a few years.

No he came to a team that was projected to win the NFC West the year before and because of bad coaching fell apart.

The NFC West sucked when he came. Lol.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:
No, he came to a s**t team and went to the NFC championship game in year 1.

He can come to a s**t team like the Browns and would be successful on a few years.

No he came to a team that was projected to win the NFC West the year before and because of bad coaching fell apart.

We were projected to win the NFC West under Singletary? Can't say I recall that.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by pd24:

Nothing. And yet, he was still the most successful coach here in the last 20 plus years

So nothing, and was. All pasted tense. Great let me know when he wins a Superbowl for the niners!

Lol. Still doesn't change the fact he would be one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL if he came back. Teams wouldn't be jumping to sign him because he is a bad coach

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

No, he came to a s**t team and went to the NFC championship game in year 1.

He can come to a s**t team like the Browns and would be successful on a few years.

No he came to a team that was projected to win the NFC West the year before and because of bad coaching fell apart.

We were projected to win the NFC West under Singletary? Can't say I recall that.

No, it was always Arizona or Seattle. Lol. We had the 7th pick in the draft But we were projected to win the west. Lol.

Jcool probably won't even back that up with the Vegas predictions from that year because he would be wrong.

Originally posted by pd24:
Lol. Still doesn't change the fact he would be one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL if he came back. Teams wouldn't be jumping to sign him because he is a bad coach

Never said he was a bad coach. Just asked what he had won? Nada zip.