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Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Originally posted by crabman82:
I have concerns over trusting a guy who picked David Carr 1st overall

It's not so much that he picked David Carr. For me, the fact that he seemingly did very little to protect his QB,
with a competent O-line speaks volumes. I still think DC, holds the record as the most sacked QB within the
first few years of his NFL career. IMO, this Howdy Dowdy looking Mo'Fo' can go HAN ...

Aside Jim Harbaugh who believed that he rated David Carr as a 7th rounder, who didn't have him going to the Houston Texans then??
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Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Maybe nothing which is why I said at the top of the post you MAY find it interesting and what it says or doesn't say is up to you. Considering NO ONE on this board saw this hiring coming and no one knows much about him I thought it would interest some. You are a product of your environment you're raised in so take it for what you will

So your saying lynch is a entitled baby who hides behind his father because of something his dad did for his brother?

Oh boy lol. I mean show me something from lynch that doesn't show that the dude has drive and is determined to be successful.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Charley Casserly is also part of the NFL Career Advisory Panel. They are the ones who come up with a list of suggestions for GM/HC candidates. I think Casserly makes good points, but a part of him may be upset that the panel's advice was not heeded.

panel members:
Tony Dungy
Charley Casserly
Carl Peterson
Bill Polian
Jimmy Raye Sr.
James Harris
Ernie Accorsi
Dick Daniels
John Madden
I think Ron Wolf was a member in previous years.
Im lovin this hire more and more
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Casserly joined "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network on Tuesday to discuss the 49ers' hiring of Lynch. "First of all, I don't think there's any question San Francisco wants to win and they're desperate to win," Casserly said. "Number two, I don't know John Lynch, I've never interviewed John Lynch, so I can't have an opinion on John Lynch. But I'll say this, George Paton was staying at the end, the assistant general manager of Minnesota. He's extremely qualified, would have been an excellent choice. I would have taken George Paton in a minute. No question about him.

"The second thing is, how is this going to be successful? Lynch is going to have to figure out who his right-hand man is. Who's the guy that he's going to have to turn to, to give him advice on personnel decisions because he doesn't know the college draft and he really doesn't know the league? In television, you know the top of the league but you really don't know the bottom of the league and that's essential too. So, that person, whoever it is, he should be paid more than Lynch because that's going to be the most important guy in the organization over the next couple of years. Who's going to teach him to be a general manager? That's something that's important too.

"The other thing is that you're hiring a rookie head coach in Kyle Shanahan. I love Kyle Shanahan. I've known him for years. I think he's going to be a terrific head coach, but he's still a rookie. A veteran personnel guy who knows all the aspects of pro scouting, college scouting, the salary cap, how to build a team, the league rules – that's the kind of guy I would have wanted to match with Shanahan.

"One last thing – the draft. John Lynch doesn't know the first thing about the draft. He couldn't know about it. In the draft, it's history. You look at a player and then where would he fit into history? That's how you balance it. If you're just going to turn it over to the coaches – maybe yes, maybe no – it's worked in Atlanta because [head coach Dan] Quinn had a fantastic draft and he ran it this year, but it doesn't always work that way. So I wouldn't have done it. George Paton would have been the general manager of San Francisco if I was running it."

In Casserly's defense, his opinion on NFL Network was shared prior to the hiring of Denver Broncos director of college scouting Adam Peters to serve as the 49ers' vice president of player personnel. That was a big hire for the 49ers and Peters is a very respected talent evaluator.

The 49ers also plan to keep assistant general manager Tom Gamble through at least the draft, giving Gamble a chance to prove himself to Lynch. Gamble has been running the scouting department since the firing of former general manager Trent Baalke.

There has also been talk that former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik would join the 49ers front office in some capacity.

Casserly was the general manager of the Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as senior vice president and general manager for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006.

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103174-charlie-casserly-very-critical-john-lynch-hiring/#sthash.HFAilpqS.dpuf

He definitely seems like more of a President of Football Ops kind of guy, than a GM.

The comment about the personnel guy that should be paid more is valid.

The thing is though. Paton wouldn't have taken this job. There is no reputable GM out there that will concede control of the 53 man roster. Lynch was hired because they want Kyle and him to get along with no backstabbing politics, which is an okay reason. Maybe not the best football reason, but its there.

That is absolutely not true, just ask John Schneider who is no scrub of a GM, but Pete Carroll calls the shots.

But, I am fine with the John Lynch hire though. He might not have the experience, but I think we may be pleasantly surprised.
[ Edited by Rascal on Jan 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM ]
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by saniner:
CJ Anderson on Adam Peters:

@cjandersonb22

2017-01-31 16:07 UTC

Thank you Adam Peters man your the reason why I am here

On earth ?

you're*
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Im lovin this hire more and more

why ?
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by saniner:
CJ Anderson on Adam Peters:

@cjandersonb22

2017-01-31 16:07 UTC

Thank you Adam Peters man your the reason why I am here

On earth ?

Plot twist: Peters is CJ Anderson's father!
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JBrack:
On a BB coached team every single person knows how to do their damn job. Is it talent or good coaching? Because more often than not after they leave NE they aren't half the player they were in NE.

Great coaching, great gameplanning and they tend to pick highly intelligent players to execute those gameplans with precision.


New England doesn't draft the biggest guys or the fastest guys, they put an emphasis on guys that are smart and hard working and give them a role to fulfill.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I don't get it. People act like the Broncos went 4-12 last year. They were a miracle against Kansas City away from making the playoffs this season. And the year they won the Super Bowl, Manning was trash. Nothing more than a spiritual leader.

Right. Not sure how people can criticize what Denver has built during that time period. They've been one of the most successful teams in the league in every respect. Drafting, FA signings, the coaching staffs they've put together. It's all been top-notch, among the very best in the league.

Bringing in someone from that background, who also spent time in New England can only be a positive. I mean, thats what we're looking for right? To bring successful people in the organization.

No one is criticizing Denver. What I was saying is staffs have a short shelf life. Denver had Manning and they won for 4 years. They now have Two QB's that definitely aren't him. If they don't produce over the next couple of years staffs get fired. Coming here with a group that gets AT LEAST 6 years is a motivator IMO. Think about it this way, do you think the coaches on our 2012 staff thought they would've been gone two seasons later?

True. There's a high amount of turnover with coaches and players, thats the nature of the business. Thats why the 6 year pacts for Shanahan and Lynch make sense. This is going to take some time. Anybody coming in and accepting this job needed some re-assurance they will get the opportunity to build this thing from the ground up and see the fruits of their labor.

Exactly. Had Denver looked better at the QB position he might have elected to stay.
Casserly brought up 2 points and 1 of them was addressed and solved today which was the draft aspect of the job. Now he just needs to get someone to help with the other GM duties and that could be Gamble or he can hire Domick or the other guy.

I think we are headed in the right direction. This will be a slow rebuild so we all need to be patient.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Maybe nothing which is why I said at the top of the post you MAY find it interesting and what it says or doesn't say is up to you. Considering NO ONE on this board saw this hiring coming and no one knows much about him I thought it would interest some. You are a product of your environment you're raised in so take it for what you will

So your saying lynch is a entitled baby who hides behind his father because of something his dad did for his brother?

Oh boy lol. I mean show me something from lynch that doesn't show that the dude has drive and is determined to be successful.

Aren't you the person you are because the one thing your dad did for your brother 25 years ago??

Huh??
All we're doing is using Lynch's namesake while other people doing the work for 2 or 3 years. Free agents will come to us now live, I guarantee that. I love this hire
So pretty much Kyle has final say... Lynch is just there for like press conferences and s**t, and Adam Peters/Tom Gamble will be running the draft?
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Maybe nothing which is why I said at the top of the post you MAY find it interesting and what it says or doesn't say is up to you. Considering NO ONE on this board saw this hiring coming and no one knows much about him I thought it would interest some. You are a product of your environment you're raised in so take it for what you will

So your saying lynch is a entitled baby who hides behind his father because of something his dad did for his brother?

Oh boy lol. I mean show me something from lynch that doesn't show that the dude has drive and is determined to be successful.

Aren't you the person you are because the one thing your dad did for your brother 25 years ago??

Huh??

Without question lol
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by saniner:
CJ Anderson on Adam Peters:

@cjandersonb22

2017-01-31 16:07 UTC

Thank you Adam Peters man your the reason why I am here

On earth ?

Plot twist: Peters is CJ Anderson's father!

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