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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by curtyniner:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KNBR had a ticker that Dominik was hired ?
What did you see, AllTheTime?
They did a breaking news update about 20 minutes ago that the Niners hired Dominik.
Yup heard it too
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.
100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.
Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL
Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:
Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.
Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision, yet everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Only as a consultant. Not a decision-maker.
Here, I will post a positive perspective:
Billick went on to say that Lynch's experience as a television analyst will be an asset for his on-the-job training as a first-year general manager. "I'm done with coaching, but if I were to go back into coaching, I'd be better for it because of the five years I spent doing games for FOX," Billick said. "Every Friday, we're in a different facility talking to players, coaches, some instances getting to sit in meetings, watching them practice, visiting with general managers. Can you imagine – I do a lot of corporate speaking – getting to sit in the boardroom with your competition and seeing what is important to them?" Peter Schrager brought up the fact that, just three weeks ago, Lynch did a production meeting with now division rival Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks. "And I can imagine John, with this in the back of his mind, probably did his due diligence to kind of (ask), 'How do you do this? How do you do that?' We'll see." "You've got someone that's new at this, which is not all bad. It's kind of an outside the box, okay. Plus, I'm sure he'll lean on a guy like [Denver Broncos general manager] John Elway. John came in from the outside and (Lynch may ask), 'How did you start? What's the priority?' Putting together that structure. His eye for talent and how he's going to deal with the coaches, John and Kyle will be great with that." - See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103106-brian-billick-calls-john-lynch-brilliant/#sthash.BktuJasp.dpuf
I get your pissed about the hire but I don't see the harm in seeing if it works. I'll take lynch/shanahan or baalke/Kelly.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.
100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.
Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL
Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:
Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.
Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision, yet everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?
I don't think anyone is tearing it down...we're all hoping it ends up being a terrific hire; many just didn't want to use our franchise as a training ground though and were looking for experienced hires and a FO restructure that removes the BFF's from football operations esp. after the hell we've been through as fans the past couple of years. It doesn't appear that's what we got...but let's revisit in three years.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by curtyniner:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KNBR had a ticker that Dominik was hired ?
What did you see, AllTheTime?
They did a breaking news update about 20 minutes ago that the Niners hired Dominik.
Yup heard it too
Well they are mistaken. Chances are he will be hired. But nothing official yet.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.
100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.
Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL
Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:
Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.
Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision, yet everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?
I don't think anyone is tearing it down...we're all hoping it ends up being a terrific hire; many just didn't want to use our franchise as a training ground though and were looking for experienced hires and a FO restructure that removes the BFF's from football operations esp. after the hell we've been through as fans the past couple of years. It doesn't appear that's what we got...but let's revisit in three years.
More nicely put NCommand.
We were desperate for experience in front office. We got the opposite.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't get it, a lot of folks here said if we hire someone unproven or Gamble, then it will be obvious that Marathe has his hands in more things football than just salary cap. And now this is trying to be spun in a positive direction.
100% this. Not 1 fan would have been OK with this move months ago. Yet, here we are, trying to rationalize hiring a man who has even less credentials than our former failed GM and overseeing people (like Gamble) who actual ARE more qualified.
Best case scenario is he grows quickly into this role over the years and surrounds himself with outstanding people. Feels like I'm talking about Tomsula here. LOL
Rose-colored glasses can be wonderful. This statement may help take some fans' glasses off:
Kyle Shannahan is more qualified to be a GM than John Lynch is.
Why would you be looking to tear down something before it has even started? How is that being a fan? Of course we are trying to look at it through rose colored glasses...that is the whole point. None of these people have made literally one decision, yet everyone is looking for reasons to hate on it. I get be critical, we have been burned a lot, but for f**k sake can they at least screw something up first before you declare everything garbage?
I don't think anyone is tearing it down...we're all hoping it ends up being a terrific hire; many just didn't want to use our franchise as a training ground though and were looking for experienced hires and a FO restructure that removes the BFF's from football operations esp. after the hell we've been through as fans the past couple of years. It doesn't appear that's what we got...but let's revisit in three years.
More nicely put NCommand.
We were desperate for experience in front office. We got the opposite.
For our own sanity, we may want to spend more time in the Kyle Shanahan thread. That's a legit hire and something to get truly excited about!
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Well.. maybe Jed is just trying to copy the Warriors success. The hired an ex player, TV commentator, and a guy with no head coaching experience to be their HC. They also hired an agent with no front office experience to be their GM. It has worked out pretty well for them! All they need now if their football equivlaent of Jerry West to consult.
Originally posted by fan49:
none of you would be saying the same if it was young.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Well.. maybe Jed is just trying to copy the Warriors success. The hired an ex player, TV commentator, and a guy with no head coaching experience to be their HC. They also hired an agent with no front office experience to be their GM. It has worked out pretty well for them! All they need now if their football equivlaent of Jerry West to consult.
Kerr was also GM of the Phoenix Suns and flamed out after 3 years.
Originally posted by BobS:
Maybe Lynch is the kind of guy who succeeds against the odds. Think of what he has been up against his whole NFL career, how many 9x Pro Bowl defensive backs are there in the modern era that are white. He has defied the odds, and beaten racial stereo types.
you're 100% right, we should wait and see if its a good hire or not. I know one thing, he already won something in my eyes, he told Jed & his puppet not to talk to media about it & they listened. That's more than I can say for anyone else. I also think with this hiring that Jed wants to step away from anything football and that's always a plus.Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:Guys I haven't read all of this thread but this could turn out to be brilliant by Jed and Company. John Lynch as GM to give the team a face of the franchise that's well respected around the NFL. Mark Dominik who knows talent to team up with Tom Gamble to run the pro personnel and draft.Don't think for a minute that Mike Shanahan want also be helping behind the scenes in some capacity. To top it off you get the best offensive coordinator in the game as your head coach. I have to say Jed and Company put a lot of thought into this and must say they thought outside of the box for a change.
